Celestial Reviews 239 - December 3, 1997

Note: One element of story writing that you don't notice is the 
proofreading that goes into the final product.  Many people proofread 
their own work or have friends help them.  In addition, I coordinate a 
free (honestly - free) proofreading service.  The proofreaders often 
help iron out grammar and style problems that may be invisible to the 
authors, and in addition they frequently offer suggestions about the 
storyline.  Although some authors have had trouble communicating with 
their proofreaders, in most cases both the proofreaders and the authors 
enjoy this cooperative effort.

It is NOT an admission of inferiority to accept proofreading help.  I 
personally use this service, and I am certain that some of the finest 
authors on this newsgroup do so as well.

I would like to thank the people who have volunteered to proofread these 
stories.  In addition, I want to remind all of you of the existence of 
this service.  If you either (a) need help with your writing or (b) want 
to help someone else, let me know.

Second note: I have not recently posted the Celestial List of Credulous 
Assumptions.  As I was reviewing one of the stories this week, I noticed 
assumptions 3, 6, 8, 23, and 29 all within the same story.  So I thought 
I had better repeat this list:

1.  It is usually possible for a woman to estimate the size of a man's 
fully engorged cock by gazing at his crotch when he is unaroused and 
fully dressed and over ten yards/meters away.

2.  Without the use of scientific instruments men can easily estimate 
the size of women's breasts from across the room, even if the woman is 
fully dressed.  {Actually, this is no big deal, since nearly all 
attractive women have 38DD bust sizes anyway.}

3.  The normal sequence of sexual experiences is first petting, then 
oral sex, then anal sex, then vaginal sex - usually all on the same 
date.  

4. The first boy to touch a girl's breasts will come in each of her 
three orifices within the next hour.

5.  Most women would intensely enjoy sexual contact with another woman, 
but most men would not enjoy sexual contact with another man, even if 
cultural biases were eliminated.

6.  Children who have sex with their parents normally enjoy this 
activity and grow up to be emotionally mature honor roll students who 
will contribute to scientific research and to world peace.

7.  Ditto for sex with older siblings, kindly neighbors, and random 
strangers.

8.  When sons, daughters, little brothers, or little sisters ask 
questions about sex, the best way to answer their questions is to show 
them, using their bodies as part of the demonstration.

9.  When a spouse or lover catches his/her partner having sex with 
someone else, the typical response is to join in.

10.  Women typically have multiple orgasms during every fulfilling 
sexual encounter.

11.  Middle-aged men can typically have sex with copious ejaculations 
several times a day for several days in a row.

10 & 11a.  Women and men that can do so are happier and better sex 
partners than those who have fewer orgasms.

12.  Kids can go blind if they masturbate too often.  {Ooops.  That one 
belongs on a different newsgroup!}

13.  Kids who do not masturbate at least daily are severely disturbed.

14.  It is important to pop a person's cherry before she gets out of 
high school {or gets into high school, has her first date, gets married, 
buys her first car, etc.}

15.  Women typically enjoy getting raped, once they get over their 
inhibitions.

16.  Men who force women to have sex with them are sexy.

17.  People can be turned into sex slaves by college kids who read a 
chapter in a psych book.  {Either that or some of these stories are 
written by Psych profs who are really desperate to motivate their 
students to read a chapter in their text book.}

18.  If you ever get turned into a sex slave, it will be the best thing 
that ever happened to you.

19.  The typical male ejaculation shoots at least 12 inches through the 
air {unless the penis is inserted into a receptacle which will terminate 
this expulsion.  In this case the ejaculate lands with the impact of a 
speeding bullet.}

20.  Most women ejaculate at least a pint of luscious fluid during a 
really enjoyable sexual experience.

21.  Most people get turned on when their partner treats them with 
extreme cruelty for the partner's own personal gratification.

22.  Most black men have "monster cocks."  These 12- to 14-inch penises 
will thrill any pussy (or other aperture) lucky enough to receive one.  
Black women, however, do not have "monster cunts," nor do they appear to 
be all that interested in the genitalia of their black brethren.  Hence 
the reciprocal fondness between black men and white women, especially 
those known as sluts.

23.  The family that fucks together stays together.

24.  It's more fun to have sexual intercourse when there's a genuine 
risk of pregnancy.  Offspring resulting from unprotected intercourse of 
minors tend to be sexy honor students by the time they reach middle 
school. 

25.  Nuns {and English teachers, librarians, etc.} are really sexual 
dynamos.

26.  Ain't nothing wrong with most frigid women that a riding crop won't 
cure.

27.  Guys who go without underpants and have sex several times a day do 
not develop a nasty rash.

28.  Male doctors get their rocks off during physical examinations of 
female patients.  Female doctors have multiple orgasms whenever they 
examine a beautiful person of either sex.

29.  A girl will get her first orgasm from her first intercourse, 
usually within minutes after having her hymen torn.

30.  Most young girls are looking for experienced men to train them in 
sexual practices.  They want to start but they don't know anything about 
it.  When they find these instructors, they will say things like, "Yes, 
eat my pussy now!"  {Which is a strange request from somebody that 
doesn't know anything about sexual practices.}

31.  Most women who find that their husbands want to turn them out to 
their friends respond, "Sounds like fun."

32.  Most boys who are forced to act the part of a girl find that they 
love the role.  Unless this happens for the first time in a penal 
institution other than school.

33.  Parents routinely leave their bedroom doors ajar when they intend 
to have sex, and kids do so when they intend to masturbate, which they 
do noisily above the bed sheets.

34. Nobody ever farts while making love. Especially not during anal 
intercourse.  And even if they do, its never one of those rancid ones 
that linger on and on.  And even if it is, the partner thinks its sexy.

35. No one ever gets a cramp while making love.  For that matter, no one 
ever sneezes or has a nose so filled with snot that it's impossible to 
breathe, much less give a blowjob.

36. The woman's vagina never makes that 'farting' noise due to trapped 
air in there.  If she does, this causes immediate orgasm in both 
partners.

37. Nobody ever forgets to wipe his/her ass prior to having it licked, 
which is unfortunate, because most people absolutely love the taste of 
human feces.

38. The woman never says "Ouch! I wasn't ready! I'm too dry!"  If she 
thinks she wants to say these things, she instead says, "Fuck me 
harder!"

39. Men don't turn over and go to sleep immediately after sex.

40. Women don't fall asleep at the beginning of sex, when they feel so 
comfortable and relaxed, and they can just let themselves go.... If they 
do fall asleep, their partner regards this as a compliment.

Final note: Remember: even though someone else may be posting my reviews 
for me, my e-mail address is still Celeste801@aol.com.

- Celeste

      "Tasty Young Coeds" by Johnny D (spam snuff) 10, 8, 8
      "Annie and Me" by DreamIQ (incest) 10, 10, 5
      "A Quickie at the Wedding" by dousan (quickie) 9, 7, 7
      "Summer of Sin" by Andrew Roller (elaborate orgy) 9.5, 10, 9

 Guest Reviews: 

      "Moving" by Bebrack (adolescent sex & pedophilia)
            9, 7, 7
      "Wedding Day Cheat"  by Unknown Author (quickie)10, 8, 9
      "Dinner with Jennifer" by Captain Atom (sex with Jennifer)
            9, 5, 5
      "Roadside Assistance" by Kathy B. (rape & sex slavery) 10, 9, 1

Reposted Reviews:

    * "Mercedes" by Morgan Preece (slut training) 10, 10, 10
    * "The Hedonists" by Jonboy (orgies) 9, 10, 10
    * "Marie" by Friar Dave (emerging adolescence) 10, 10, 10

* = Repost of previous review (because the story has recently been
      reposted)

"Tasty Young Coeds" by Johnny D (JohnnyD@cryogen.com). This late entry 
in Malinov's spam contest was inspired by the phrases CUM SHOOTING UP 
HER NOSE and DRIED CUM ON HER CHIN, which it doesn't use.  Instead it 
builds upon the eponymous image of TASTY YOUNG COEDS.  The story 
succeeds as an exercise in creativity to the extent that it uses the 
title phrase in an unexpected manner. However, it's noteworthy much more 
for being odd than for being erotic or sexy.

Ratings for "Tasty Young Coeds"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 8
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 8

"Annie and Me" by DreamIQ (DreamIQ@wizard.com). This is one of those 
"true" about father-daughter incest. The narrator and his daughter have 
never actually considered their activity to be anything like abuse, even 
though the author knows that evil things happen when incest is forced on 
a child. {As the judge said to the court psychiatrist, "Well, if they 
don't consider it to be harmful, then it must be wholesome!"} He wrote 
this story to inform, entertain and... enlighten us.

It all started when Annie was 11 and was experiencing "growing pains."  
Dad massaged her breasts; this became a nightly ritual; soon Dad was 
getting a hard-on; etc.  But soon this placid existence is torn assunder 
- er asunder, but that loses the pun - when Dad catches Mom in bed with 
her friend Lois.  It's curtains for the marriage; and since lesbian 
mothers are often recalcitrant in their motherly duties {because they 
lack the prerequisite demo penis, I suppose}, Dad has to take on more 
and more responsibility for initiating Annie into the world of adult 
sexuality for 12-year-olds.

So here's the problem in a nutshell. Annie's friend Amber has a brother 
who lets her jerk him off.  But Annie has no older brother - only a 
horny father. She can learn all she wants about girl/girl sex by playing 
with Amber, but she needs info about penises and such.  What's a father 
to do?  Send her to a convent? Turn her over to Jason?  The answer 
should be obvious, especially in a town that apparently lacks counselors 
and benevolent bartenders who might offer additional suggestions.

If post-prandial handjobs become habitual, can blowjobs be far behind? 
"Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh,!" they groan. Repeatedly.  As per schedule, the first 
paternal penile penetration comes in her anus rather than her pussy.  
{As you know, I hate to apostrophize, but do you men out there REALLY 
think little girls would enjoy having their first sexual penetration 
occur when an adult cock is rammed up her unlubricated ass?  Get real!}

The paradox of a naked woman-child with her first wanton, erotic look on 
her face certainly DOES have intuitive appeal.  But then so does hitting 
my assistant principal in the head with a baseball bat.  You can go to 
prison for either offense.

Annie's aureolae were crankily - alas, that's a different lesson.  For 
now, I'll just say the word is areola.

This is a well-written, interesting fantasy.  However, you may have 
detected a faint note of sarcasm in my review - as if I see something 
wrong with what Dad and Annie are doing.  What's wrong?  Well, nothing -
IF everything could turn out this way. But I just have this nagging 
suspicion that in real life little girls who get boinked by their 
daddies don't often grow up to be intellectually sophisticated, 
emotionally exuberant, sexual dynamos.  {For further comments along with 
a similar story that I liked a lot better, see my review of Friar Dave's 
"Marie," which is reposted later in this issue.}

If this is a "true" story, then I am poet laureate of England. 
"Aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh! Unnnnnggghhhh!" Now THERE'S a real turn-on.

Ratings for "Annie and Me"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 5

"A Quickie at the Wedding" by dousan 
(dousan@mailer.canadianwebmaster.com). The narrator goes to a small 
wedding at a private home, meets a drunken slut nymphomaniac {i.e., a 
dipsomaniac nymphomaniac}, and fucks her quickly but industriously in 
the bathroom.  Imagine that.

Ratings for "A Quickie at the Wedding"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 7
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 7

"Summer of Sin" by Andrew Roller (roller39@idt.net).  Like many stories 
in the Naughty Naked Dreamgirls series, this one is labeled Chapter 1.  
I have never seen a Chapter 2 to any of the stories, but maybe that's 
because I have not looked hard enough.  {If I were a male critic writing 
this review, that last sentence would have been a plaintively pejorative 
pun.}  Anyway, I have not been too impressed with previous Dreamgirl 
escapades; but I thought I should give Andy another chance.

This one is pretty good.  There obviously is more to the story than I 
read, and I am basing my ratings on the assumption that the rest of the 
story is of the same caliber as Chapter 1.  

Chloe has been left to stay with her Aunt Rebecca in Paris, while her 
parents cavort about the continent.  The first thing Aunt Rebecca does 
is take Chloe to one of those fine Parisian parties where the 
merrymakers are naked above the waist and everyone eats their meal out 
of someone else's panties - more literally than you might suspect.  
Around this time of the year I often read some Charles Dickens, who 
takes great delight in describing what I think are decadent Victorian 
Christmas customs.  Although both authors would probably object to the 
comparison, this story reminded me of one of Dickens's stories - a sense 
of wonderment at the opulent festivities and amazement at what might 
come next.

If you like to read about idle rich people indulging themselves, then 
you'll probably enjoy this story; but you may want to make sure you have 
more than the first chapter before you spend much time on it.

Remember this to avoid a faux pas: "You do not eat spaghetti out of your 
own panties.  Other people eat it out of your panties, and you eat it 
out of theirs."

And then there's this spelling gem: "A little more rogue on her nipples, 
Didi." possibly means "Get another one of the studs from the bar to come 
in and suck my other tit, Didi."

Ratings for "Summer of Sin"
Athena (technical quality): 9.5
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 9

"Moving" by Bebrack (KE4SCX@aol.com).  Guest review by Sven the Elder.

As I read this story a couple of words popped into mind.  Believable and 
Fantasy.  These are a little of what all of us apply to stories that we 
write.  We want to weave a little bit of fantasy into a believable tale.  
The two should be mutually inclusive, not exclusive.

The story tells the fantasy of a new kid on the block.  Fifteen years 
old, he has just moved next door to the only eligible female on the 
block.  He is pissed because he had almost, but not quite got his 
previous girlfriend to the point of screwing; but then he had moved 
before that had occurred.  Now he has his chance with this new kid 
called Judy.   It turns out she is horny because she has been watching 
her mom and dad screw through peep holes or from her well prepared tree 
house.

I have to say that at this point I began to feel that the story line was 
suspicious.  These were a fifteen and a fourteen year old and they had 
the mannerisms and thoughts of twenty five or thirty year olds.  Sorry 
but a fifteen-year-old boy who has screwed someone for the first time a 
couple of hours before does not think or say: "Anything more than a 
mouthful is wasted anyway, I always say," as he leans down to take one 
of her nipples between his lips.  I have, however, met precocious little 
girls who were capable of thinking and acting like the young star of 
this tale. The story progresses through sex ed and him screwing first 
her mother and then his own.

I guess it stops short of pedo, but for me the action is schoolboy 
fantasy with a touch of incest thrown in at the end.   The sex is there 
and quite hot, but is unsatisfying. This is an unbelievable, somewhat 
unrealistic fantasy that leaves me perhaps not totally cold, but 
certainly cool.  The writer has written the tale from the perspective of 
a teenager, but has fallen into the trap of using the mindset of an 
adult.

Sorry, to use an old phrase - "Not my bag," but it may appeal to those 
who like the stories on youngsters growing up.

Ratings for "Moving  by Bebrack"
Technical quality:  9
Plot & character:  7
Sven (appeal to reviewer):  7

"Wedding Day Cheat"  by Unknown Author.  Guest review by M1ke Hunt.

Whaddya gonna do when you've been lusting after your best friend all 
through college and find out she's about to be married? Whaddya gonna do 
when she calls and asks you to visit and help with her wedding dress? 
Whaddya gonna do when all the other people in the store suddenly leave 
and tell you they won't be back for a half-hour?

Your choices are: a) fuck her, b) fuck her, or c) fuck her.

OK, so there aren't any big surprises here, and it's more of a super-
short scene instead of a story. So what? It's a decent read: the set-up 
is good, if predictable, and the sex is good, if predictable. 
Predictable isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just, uh, predictable.

Ratings for "Wedding Day Cheat"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 8 
Mikeus (appeal to reviewer): 9

"Dinner with Jennifer" by Captain Atom (email unknown).  Guest
review by Dart.

Jennifer is a new junior executive at the company where Steve works. In 
the two months she's been there, they've developed a nice friendship. 
Then, one day Jennifer invites him to a dinner party at her place. He's 
the first guest to arrive; he's the last guest to leave. If I said more, 
I'd give away the story. I will say that the second paragraph is devoted 
to an elaborate description of Jennifer. After that, I thought I knew 
what would happen, and I was correct.

Because Captain Atom writes well, this story disappointed me. The first 
paragraph setup was short but adequate. From there, it could have 
developed in various directions: sultry, seductive, romantic, etcetera. 
Instead, Jennifer was such an unbelievable character that what it did 
give was predictable and routine.

In summary, I'd say that the story was descriptive rather than emotive.

Ratings for "Dinner with Jennifer"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 5
Dart (appeal to reviewer): 5

"Roadside Assistance" by Kathy B. (kathybxx@aol.com).  Guest review by 
Kim- her 30th!

Celeste always concludes her request for a review with the words "As 
usual, if you do not want to review this story, just say so". I was very 
close to doing just that with this story. However, if I refuse stories 
just because I object to their storylines, then my services as a 
reviewer reduce even more than they are already. So, having got that out 
of the way...

A young, unnamed woman (though, as it's written first person by a woman, 
I guess we can say her name's Kathy) crashes her car in a snowstorm. She 
phones her husband for assistance on her mobile phone and then waits for 
rescue. Driven to keeping warm by drinking a bottle of whiskey she has 
with her, she sits and shivers.

Finally some men arrive; and since she is too drunk to object, they take 
her to their car and drive off to an unknown destination. There Kathy 
learns of her misfortune. Five men have abducted her solely for the 
purpose of raping her and turning her into their sex slave. There 
follows a catalogue of painful bondage, belt whippings, and repeated 
rapes anal, oral, and vaginal.

Throughout she is denied any sexual relief herself until the end, when 
one or her hands is released so that she may masturbate for the men's 
amusement. After that she is told that she is now their slave because of 
all the photographs they took of her ordeal.

Good points: Well written, sadly believable. Bad points: deeply 
unpleasant and depressing.

This story does raise many points of interest that may be debated on 
ASSD. Such as the nature of extreme fantasies, are they best left 
unwritten? Is it somehow more acceptable being written by a woman? What 
makes anyone want to read such a thing for pleasure? Is it the place of 
reviewers to even pose such questions? I have dark fantasies myself, so 
are Kathy's fantasies any more or less acceptable than mine?

I have my own opinions on all the above and will happily expound should 
anyone ask, but this is not the time or place.

Ratings for "Roadside Assistance" 
Athena (technical quality): 10 (Perfectly good writing)
Venus (plot & character): 9 (Depressingly believable, save the
       "you're now our slave" bit)
Kim (appeal to reviewer): 1 (I loathed it)

* "Mercedes" by Morgan Preece (zanna@whoever.com).  The narrator is a 
gigolo, I suppose; he hangs onto his piece of life by latching onto 
older women, who like him for his good looks and the sex he is able to 
throw their way.  As he says, " Sex is all in the mind anyway and I 
approached each woman as an intellectual puzzle subject to physical 
manipulation, like one of those multicolored cubes.  But things begin to 
change one day when he tries to seduce a rich woman who drives a 
Mercedes.  He finds himself trapped, enslaved; and he undergoes 
experiences that had never even occurred to him before.

I usually don't like sex-slavery stories or those that involve piercing 
and diapers; but I did enjoy this story.  It's hard to explain.  I 
recommend you check it out for yourself.

Ratings for "Mercedes"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10

* "The Hedonists" by Jonboy (jonboy@thepoint.net).  I get skeptical 
about these stories sometimes.  So when I brought my husband a beer 
during a commercial of the baseball game tonight, I said to him, 
"Imagine that you are a plumber and have to wait for an hour until the 
lady of the house returns.  Her nubile step-daughter is lying by the 
pool and asks you to rub suntan lotion on her, and her movements cause 
her tiny black bikini to practically disappear into her the crack of her 
tight little ass.  As you apply the lotion, you can smell the odor of 
sex permeating the air around you.  Would you find this to be at all 
erotic?"  "What does nubile mean?" he replied, as I handed him his beer 
and a bottle of baby lotion, flipped off the TV with the remote control, 
lay down with my naked ass easing out beneath my tee-shirt, and said, 
"The kids will be home at 8:30."  Anyway, the basic premise of the story 
seems to be sound: at least some men would find this to be an erotic 
situation.

Actually, the kids did not get home till 9:00 and the premise was more 
erotic than I had expected - either that or it contrasted really well 
with a boring baseball game; and so I didn't get back to reading this 
story until much later.  By then it had occurred to me that since the 
title was plural, ole Dave would be checking the plumbing of both mother 
and daughter and possibly a few others unknown to me at that moment.

By the way, Dave is a stud himself; so this is not a guy's only fantasy.  
In addition, he's apparently a union plumber: "You just charge us for 
the whole day," says Mom.  "It would be worth twice the price to find an 
unusual man like yourself."

As I understand it, Dave had five resounding orgasms within about five 
hours during his initial visit, and he also found time to fix a leaky 
pipe while the step-mother shaved her pussy in front of him.  
Fortunately, the ladies had no Kryptonite in their house.  I have no 
idea how often the two woman came that first afternoon, but they were 
both pretty happy.  Meanwhile, I was at the end of chapter 4 out of 10, 
and my husband was dead to the world after moving the earth only two 
times in 94 minutes.  Then in chapter 5 Dave gets a hard-on thinking 
about his upcoming <g> date with Vicki that evening, and so he has oral 
sex with his roommate (a guy) before he showers and heads off for his 
date in chapter 6.

When Dave returns to the mansion at 7:00 the Three Amigos fondle, 
exchange tongues, and become pre-orgasmic; but they do NOT engage in 
full genital contact.  Another orgasm at this time might strain 
credulity. The kids go out for pizza and Mom goes upstairs for her dildo 
- either that or she goes to a bar and takes on an entire basketball 
team before going to spend the evening in a sex club.  The transitions 
are not perfectly clear here; and reality and fantasy merge. Chapter 7 
explains the activities of the sex club - The Hedonists Society; and 
these would make an interesting story in themselves.  In fact, chapter 7 
SHOULD be a separate story; stylistically it's a major distraction, and 
I have no idea why the author felt the need to shove it into this story.  
Suffice it to say that these hedonistic little fuckers probably have a 
franchise in a city near yours - unfortunately, it's fictional. 

Meanwhile, back in the real "plot," Dave and Vicki go to a nightclub 
that has a "sexiest couple contest."  Having already exceeded the limits 
of human sexual capacity, of course, they refrain from participating.  
Right!  And I have a bridge in Brooklyn and some oceanfront property in 
Arizona that I'd like to sell you.  Actually, they win the contest.  
This may not seem improbable, since the couple has refrained from full 
sexual copulation for nearly nine hours by the time the contest starts, 
but I forgot to tell you that Dave had already cum three times 
immediately before the contest began.  

The dance contest scenario is especially well written.  The author 
describes not only the antics of Dave and Vicki but also those of 
several other couples; and the various couples also interact with one 
another.  And this hot sex is NOT a digression, but rather a 
contribution to the overall plot.  An anthropologist at heart, Dave wins 
the contest with an ancient mating dance.  It had a good beat and was 
easy to cum to.  Dick Clark would give it a 99.  To celebrate their 
victory, Vicki sucks Dave's cock to the verge of orgasm in the car on 
the way home; but he doesn't cum (again, we don't want to strain 
credulity).  To wrap things up, Dave stays over with Vicki; and Mom 
wakes up and joins them for one final orgy.  Assuming the story ends at, 
say, 4:00 a.m., Dave has had ten raging orgasms within 19 hours.  Not 
bad for a plumber.

A word of stylistic advice to the author: I don't see what is gained by 
referring to Vicki as "the sex crazed bitch" in the normal narrative.  
It makes sense to use this terminology to express DAVE's thoughts; but 
the author does a good job of giving an objective but hot description of 
events, and I think the evaluative reference weakens the presentation.  
Normally, when it is the author speaking we hear words like "the 
beautiful young woman" or even "the beautiful young woman whose cunt 
ached for his cock."  A lot of authors do this.  My advice is to 
consider what can be gained by using the appropriate words at the right 
times.  {The following is fine: "OK, bitch!" Dave swore, "You want 
fucked.  This is a fuck!"  It's proper because these are DAVE's words, 
not the narrator's.}

Not everything in the story was a turn-on for me.  For example, I don't 
find it at all erotic to think of a guy pissing on me; and while 
swallowing cum seems sexy to me, gulping down a mouthful of piss does 
not.  Likewise, sticking my finger and even my tongue into a pulsating 
ass is sexy; but I have no desire to have a guy dump his load on me.  
However, there was plenty of hot stuff, and I could have simply skimmed 
the less delectable parts.

As I started this story, I was seriously considering docking the author 
for having no real plot - this story was just an excuse to talk about 
sex.  But then I discovered that there really was a plot of sorts; and 
at the very least it was a damned good excuse to talk about sex.  Then I 
said to myself that certainly I had to subtract a point or so for the 
lack of realism.  I mean, I've read Kinsey and Masters & Johnson and 
some of the others; and not even Shere Hite thinks a guy who has already 
been having frequent sex can have this many orgasms.  But what the hell!  
"High Noon" is a great movie, and nobody ever counts how many times Will 
Kane fires his six-shooter without reloading.

Assuming there are people who want to read a story primarily to get 
themselves or a friend turned on, there may be a demand for this story!

Ratings for "The Hedonists"
Athena (technical quality): 9
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10

* "Marie" by Friar Dave.  {In the current repost this story is 
listed as "Marie" by Marie.  Not true.  It's by Friar Dave.}

When she was a little under 11 years old and had a body that was a 
bit advanced for her age, Marie made an important discovery.  She 
could become close to and even have sex with nice men, and she 
could turn them on and still have them treat her right, and it 
could be fun and sweet and pleasurable and not hateful or hurtful 
or scary.

The problem was that soon she loved sex, and she was used to 
getting it pretty much when she wanted it. And she was often horny 
as hell.  To use Marie's own expression, she was making Lolita look 
like a nun.

Marie's initial sexual contacts were with boys near her own age.  
She quickly graduated to more mature boys and to adult men.  Once 
she had experienced the more mature partners, she lost interest in 
younger boys.  She progresses to numerous hot, sexy adventures.

If we accept this as fiction - a nice story - then we're OK.  If we 
look at it as a case study - which is the format the author uses - 
then our choices are to regard this story as either (1) a very 
unusual set of circumstances or (2) a far-fetched fantasy.  The 
FACT is that there is an overwhelming tendency for girls who become 
sexually active this young to have adult lives that are at best far 
below their potential at and worst just plain miserable.  I have 
worked with kids who have been sexually active.  I am not talking 
about "kids" who get married and start a family when they are 17.  
I am talking about kids who start having constant sex when they are 
under 12 years old.  In general, when they become adults, they have 
no idea what real love is about.  They've lost their childhood.  
They almost invariably either drop out of school or just sit in a 
desk until the law permits them to leave.  They enter into a series 
of shallow sexual relationships as adults, and they almost never 
have what a sensible person would call a stable family.  My guess 
is that by their fiftieth birthday half of the kids I have known 
like this will be dead after an unhappy life.

I also serve as an informal counselor to a large number of well-
adjusted teenagers (by being the sponsor of various organizations), 
and my impression is that the sexual experiences of these kids 
begin much later in life.  Articles and case studies published in 
scientific journals confirm my perception.

It's possible that I'm getting a biased sample in my real life 
contacts.  I work with kids who are dysfunctional, and so maybe I 
just don't see the well-adjusted kids who have been having frequent 
sex since they were 11 years old.  It's POSSIBLE that the world is 
full of wonderful children like Marie who become sexually active 
before they turn 11, who are never sexually exploited, and whose 
lives are not permanently screwed up because of their early sexual 
experiences.  These kids would not come to my attention, because 
they look like normal kids and don't advertise the fact that 
they're fucking one another's brains out when I'm not looking.  
It's also important to note that even with the dysfunctional kids 
it may be the problems in the rest of their lives that lead to 
early sexual behavior rather than vice versa.  

What I most emphatically want to say is that I do NOT believe that 
any of you readers who started your sexual careers at a really 
early age are necessarily scarred for life because of this.  On the 
other hand, I hope you have the honesty to admit that maybe life 
would be better were it not for some early problems and mistakes.

Marie discovered early in this story that sex could be fun and 
sweet and pleasurable and not hateful or hurtful or scary.  I 
learned the same thing from my mother and from the happy 
environment in which I grew up.  Mom didn't let me look at porn 
magazines when I was really young, because they would "give me a 
wrong impression of sex and love." My father and mother were very 
affectionate in front of us, and I knew that someday I might get 
lucky and have a similar relationship.  She knew what kinds of 
movies I watched and casually offered me advice, including the 
encouragement to "save myself" for somebody I truly loved.  I had a 
full childhood and a happy athletic career in high school; and I 
cannot imagine my sex life being much better than it is right now - 
except when I get interesting ideas from these stories.  My advice 
to my own daughters has been similar; and had I ever suspected that 
one of them was engaging in precocious sexual behavior I would have 
done what I could have done to lead her to a more adaptive 
lifestyle.

Having stated my personal philosophy in the previous paragraphs, 
now I'll say that this is still an excellent story.  It's 
"realistic" in the sense that these events COULD happen to a person 
that would grow up to be a normal, functioning adult.  And if you 
read the whole story, I think you'll discover that Marie's eventual 
opinion of her life story is not all that different from my own.

The story is also just plain enjoyable - even to a person like 
myself who would discourage such behavior in real life.  I have 
close friends and relatives who adamantly insist that anything 
that's immoral, unwise, or unrealistic cannot be enjoyable.  That's 
just plain stupid.  When I watch Star Wars, I don't worry about the 
impact on their families of killing the storm troopers of the Evil 
Empire.  When I watch a movie about a clever bank robbery, I don't 
worry about the fact that such activity would ultimately influence 
how banks would operate and probably cause hardship for families 
with marginal incomes.  Get real!  It would be fun to rob a bank 
and get away with it (although I would never do it and it couldn't 
really be harmless in real life), and it would also be fun for a 
12-year-old to pull a train with a bunch of friendly 16-year-olds.  
Not wise, perhaps, but certainly fun.

Some people cite this as Friar Dave's best story.  I liked "Inger" 
better, but this one is still an excellent story.

Ratings for "Marie"
Athena (technical quality): 10
Venus (plot & character): 10
Celeste (appeal to reviewer): 10

