Note: This story was dynamically reformatted for online reading convenience. Subject: Heather Farrow, Sex Therapist (MF, Mf, Mg, Fm, Fb, Mf+, incest, oral) Author: Heather Farrow <all_for_girls_dr@yahoo.com> Posted: Kelly <pghpa_girl@yahoo.com> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- !!!WARNING!!!! This file is a work of fiction containing sexually explicit material which may include depictions of underage, nonconsensual and unprotected sex as well as incest and adultery. It is not intended to implicate any person or action by them or me, nor advocate such practices. If you can't separate fantasy from reality, get professional help - FAST! The material is distributed as "For Adults Only" and possession by a minor is strictly forbidden. If you are not legally empowered to be in possession of this material, do not read it and delete it immediately. This work is copyrighted (C)2011 to the author. It may be posted with the permission of the editor to non-commercial "free" sites, or in the "free" area of commercial sites so long as no changes are made to the content AND the author/editor information is retained. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Table of Contents: Chapter 1 - Introduction Chapter 2 - Roadtrip Chapter 3 - Anal Christmas Chapter 4 - A Birthday Wakeup Call Chapter 5 - New Year's Eve Sons Chapter 6 - Communication Chapter 7 - Heather Chats With Dan Chapter 1 - Introduction ======================= Hello everyone out there. I'm Heather and I'm a married mom of two kids. Amanda is 12, almost 13 and Mark is 15 (16 in November). My husband and I are both 35 years old. I'm a Professional Sex Therapist. This means I help people with sexual problems that are not medical in nature. So I don't cure STDS or can give you Viagra and make your penis or breasts bigger. That's just not what I do, I help with the mental side of sexuality. I help mostly women but I do see men also but they normally only come after a female brings them to me. Problems I've dealt with include confidence, communication problems, trying to find your personal pleasure zones, spicing things up with new positions or fantasy. I've also helped with much harder side of things such as abuse rape and yes even incest. I will say right off I that in the past I have not condoned incest. It is illegal and can land you in a lot of trouble. In theory incest should be perfectly fine and could be a nice way for family to share pleasure. I came across Kelly's site by accident but since reading most of her diary I have come to find her very honest and find her life with incest very fascinating. Her family comes as close as I've seen or heard about when dealing with incest and not having the major problems that come with it. But even Kelly will tell you I'm sure that it's not perfect and there has been problems. My personal feelings about incest started to change while working with a teenage client of mine and her mother. Then recently I met another woman with kids nearly the same age as mine who wanted to get together as a family. I personally was more interested in just the adults but it was the whole family or nothing. It took a lot of thought on my part, especially considering the age of my daughter. I'm not to sure what I'll be adding to this area yet but I've come to think of Kelly as a good friend online since starting our chats. I'm open to adding my thoughts on any sexual topic or issues that might come up. I will not answer every email I get as I do not have a lot of free time and will only respond even then If I feel the problem or question is legitimate and not just silly nonsense to waste my time. I may even rant on topics or people Kelly brings to me. Thanks for reading about me! PERSONAL DATA ============ 1. Name? Heather 2. Age? 34 3. Birthday? Nov 4. Ethnic group? white 5. Profession? Sex Therapist. 6. Place of birth? Canada 7. Current location? Canada 8. Religion? None but if had to pick I side with more Christian beliefs. 9. Education? High school College/University 10. Marital status Married for 16 yrs 11. Greatest hero? Unknown 12. Kids? Amanda-12 Mark-15 13. Vital statistics a) height average b) weight above average lol c) measurements To big to say d) cup size? I try to fit into a C but I'm normally a D e) hair color Brown natural f) pubic hair Shaved 14. Clothing sizes a) dress I'm fat b) shirt/blouse I'm Fat c) pants I'm Fat lol d) bra Same as above C but I'm normally a D e) panties bikini or classic briefs Cotton d) pantyhose I'm into the Q's that embarrassing enough f) shoes 8 1/2 - 9 15. Pads or tampons? both but normally tampax tampons normally just regular 16. Favorite body part? Clit 17. Least favorite? Everywhere else lol 18. Wear to bed? Nightgown or pjs. 19. Car you drive? Mazda 3 20. Car you'd LIKE? Lincon Town Car 21. Favorite color? Blue 22. Piercings/tattoos? None ENTERTAINMENT ============ 1. Favorite TV show? It changes over the years but currently I love to watch Battlestar Galactica with my husband 2. Favorite movie? The original King Kong. The fugitive or Airplane 3. Favorite music? Anything that rocks with a beat but try to avoid Pop music 4. Favorite book? The Complete Illustrated Kama Sutra 5. Which Hollywood actor and/or actress you would like to have sex with? Brad Pitt 6. Do you watch porn? Yes 7. If you watch porn, what type is your favorite? Hardcore, lesbians. 8. Who is your favorite porn star? None but I should check out Kelly. lol 9. Have you ever visited a strip club? yes 10. Have you ever hired an escort/hooker for sex? No SEXUAL HISTORY ============= 1. When did you give your first BJ and who did you give it to? 14 bf 2. When did you first have sex and with who? 14 Bf 3. How many sexual partners have you had (male and female)? 3 4. What is the age of oldest/youngest person you have had sex with and what was your age at the time? 35 his age 34 my age I hope to set a new record again next year lol 5. What was the biggest age differential between you and your sexual partner? 1 year 6. When was the last time you had sex? With who? A few hours ago - My husband 7. Growing up, did you ever see your parents having sex? No 8. Have you ever been paid to have sex with someone? No 9. If married, have you ever cheated on your husband sexually? wouldn't cheat 10. Have you ever been involved in a gang-bang? No 11. What is the most number of times you have had sex in one day? 6 maybe 7 lost count 12. Have you ever had a sexually transmitted disease (STD)? No MASTURBATION ============ 1. When did you start masturbating? 14 2. How many times a week on average do you masturbate? 5 or 6 3. Where is the naughtiest place you have masturbated? my car 4. Which hand do you prefer to masturbate with? right 5. Do you prefer to use a toy or your fingers? Fingers 6. Do you put your fingers in your pussy when you masturbate? If yes, how many? yes normally just 2 7. Do you like the taste of your pussy? only recently tried and it's not all that great. 8. What is your favorite sexual fantasy when you masturbate? Sex with many men on private island 9. What is your nastiest sexual fantasy when you masturbate? I'm pretty tame I don't consider anything I think about nasty 10. Growing up, did you ever see your parents masturbate? No 12. If you have kids, have you seen them masturbating? Not yet. SEXUAL PREFERENCES ================= 1. Are you straight, bi or gay? Straight 2. What is your favorite position during sex? doggie style 3. Do you like anal sex? no but can tolerate it on very very very "VERY" rare occasions 4. Do you like a man to cum in your mouth? doesn't bother me 5. Do you like the taste of cum? It's not ice cream but it's alright 6. Do you prefer to swallow or spit? depends on mood but mostly swallow it's less messy 7. Do you like facials? NO 8. Do you like having sex during your period? No 9. When do you require a man to use a condom? Me personally, never anymore unless I think I forgotten my pill but I careful about that 10. Do you prefer a man to be circumcised or natural? Circumcised, never experienced a natural one 11. What birth control method do you use, if any? Birth Control Pills SEXUAL FETISHES ============== 1. Do you practice anal sex? As said before VERY VERY VERY Rare 2. Do you like to lick assholes (male and female)? No 3. Do you believe it is OK to fantasize about sex with young children? It's just a fantasy what you think in your head is up to you. Making it real is different story 4. Have you had sex with an underage girl when you were over 18? No 4. Have you ever had sex with an animal? No 5. Do you like to watch people having sex with animals? No 6. How much would a stranger have to pay to have sex with you? A lot I couldn't even put a # on it. 7. Ever go out in public without panties? No 8. What is the wildest (craziest) thing you have ever done sexually? Sex in public bathroom 10. Have you ever cammed nude or had sex on-line? No 11. Do you like to role-play? If yes, what is your favorite scenario? I will but don't seem to enjoy pretending I'm someone or something else. 12. How many sexual toys do you own? What type? I personally own two. Very small 6inch dildo and a Rabbit Vibrator 13. Do you enjoy BSDM? No 14. Is rape ever justifiable (i.e. is it OK if a woman is "asking for it"?) Unless someone says yes then it's not Ok. INCEST ===== 1. Have you ever had an incestual relationship No 2. Have you ever fantasized about sex with a family member? NO 3. Have you ever fantasized about sex with your child? NO 4. If you had kids, would you have sex with each other? No 5. At what age is it OK for a parent to fondle their daughter's pussy? Never 6. At what age is it OK for a mother to fondle her son's cock? Never 7. Would you like to take your son's virginity? No 8. Would you teach your daughter to masturbate? If yes, would you help him? Maybe been debating that for a while but don't want it to lead to the above questions 9. If a girl is pregnant with her father or brother's child, what should she do? I don't feel right telling anyone what to do especially with such a controversial topic MISCELLANEOUS ============ 1. Minimum age for your daughter to give her first blowjob? age is just a # .. when she is mentally and physically ready to handle it 2. Minimum age for your daughter to have sex? age is just a # .. when she is mentally and physically ready to handle it 3. Minimum age for your son to get his first blowjob? age is just a # .. when he is mentally and physically ready to handle it 4. Minimum age for your son to have sex? age is just a # .. when he is mentally and physically ready to handle it 5. Would you let your daughter use birth control pills? If yes, at what age? Yes. the moment she gets her periods 6. What about you would shock your neighbors the most if they knew about it? I don't think I could shock them 7. What about you would shock your spouse the most if he/she knew about it? Nothing he knows me pretty well 8. What about you would shock your kids the most if they knew about it? Nothing they know what I do for a living. 9. What do you wish people reading this knew about you? I`m a pretty basic person that just happens to give advice on Sex. I`m not crazy when it comes to it but I`m not judgmental either and I am open to bending the rules sometimes. Chapter 2 - Roadtrip =================== Hello Kelly, So much has happened. We were supposed to stay with this other family till Friday but we have decide to go our separate ways early today on Tuesday. I can't explain all now but I am trying to put my thoughts together and will send them to you. This whole vacation is not what I expected and has been life changing. I've attached a summary of the events on our car ride towards our vacation. It's very short and not a lot happens. But I've tried to add in anything I recall that might have had an effect and help explain future events in the vacation and the one sexual experience during that part of the trip. I'll try to write down my thoughts as we travel home now. Heather ************************ The families: Heather 35 Rich 35 Mark 15 Amanda 12 Helen 35 Kevin 35 Helen 16 Luke 14 Lilly 12 ************************ I finally got told my clients that I was taking some time off. I been working myself to death and really needed a break. Me and my husband had found a trip in the Rocky Mountains that was a weeklong hike and camping trip. I was so looking forward to it. Fresh air get to stretch legs. I am sure for some this doesn't sound like a great vacation but to me it was a dream. Our two kids were old enough to join us on the trip too. Guided hike up and down cliffs and mountains and streams camping in the woods. Totally beautiful. We don't really live close to the mountains it be a 5-6 day trip by car alone so that's about all the info you will get on where we live. So me my husband, daughter and son packed up the car and started our long drive. We stayed in little motels along the way. It was best to get a room with two beds. Me and Husband in one and the kids in another. You say you let your son and daughter sleep in same bed. Sure why not. I know them very well and my daughter doesn't even like her brother all that much and my son is very shy so them even thinking of any funny business I was sure was far from their minds. Now on the 3rd night my son must have notice she was sleeping in her bra. Now for you guys that don't know most girls don't sleep in there bra. It can get uncomfortable but my daughter must have decided it was best to keep it on with her brother beside her. He must have noticed cause he begun to snap the bra. He did it several times and I kept yelling at him before it finally stopped. I not sure if she did this on purpose as revenge or if it was stress from traveling or what it was but for the next two nights she wet the bed. I can say he wasn't to happy with that. We got into a big fight. I threaten to put her into diapers again he said he would keep snapping her bra if she was going to pee on him. I told her to take bra off for bed she said no way not around her brother. So that night Me and her shared a bed and the boys shared one. The final night before getting to our destination we stayed in a room with 2 beds and a pull out couch so son in one bed me and hubby in another and daughter said she take the couch. I trying to sleep but I can't seem to on this night it was hot in this room and I couldn't figure out how to turn on the A/C. My husband then thinking I'm asleep attempts to lower my PJ pants. I gave him a little nudge with my elbow. "No way" I told him. "Not with the kids right there." He groaned and totally ignored me, finally getting my pants around my ankles. "Just a few minutes they will never know," he whispered in my ear. I felt him push my panties to the side and felt his hard cock slide between my legs from behind. "I not even wet" I told him. "It feels like it to me" he says back. "That's sweat" I remarked back. "It will have to do just give me a few moments please" he begged. I'm not sure about other women but if I not aroused and wet its very very uncomfortable to allow him into my pussy. I could tell he wasn't going to take no for an answer so I tried to loosen up open my legs and felt him spread me apart as he entered my body. I could feel him moving in and out of me and it was so dry and rough but it seemed good enough to him. Within a few minutes he is really panting hard and whispers he's about to cum. I just wanted him to finish it. My kids were right there. I was not aroused. I was hot and tired. This was some of the worst sex I've ever had. Finally I felt a warm rush go thru my pussy as his sperm flooded my hole. He pushed my panties back into place and gave me a kiss on the check. "Thank you honey. I love you." He'd better thank me as that was horrible. I pulled my pants up and now I was even hotter than before and my panties were giving me a wedge now. I tried to close my eyes and go to sleep. This was going to be a long vacation. ************************ My family had decided to take a trip to the Rocky Mountains. We were getting a guided hike with a group of others thru the hills and valleys. Never trying to get to any peaks. Spending the nights in tents and camping out. Meeting our guides in town we met the group we would be traveling with. Its seemed to be mostly couples and a few groups of young men. But there was one other group that brought along the children and they were not hard to miss. I figured at least my kids would have someone to talk and play with on the trip. Our first day of hiking was very tiring but beautiful. Such fresh air and was just a great beautiful day with the sun out shining bright. When we stopped to set up camp for the first day me and my husband found a nice log and gathered around the fire everyone was making to keep warm that night. Lucky for us our guides were providing the food and drinks. I don't drink often but it was very nice to sit back and relax on such a hot day after walking so far. I noticed my kids talking with the other kids on the trip. They seemed to be close in age to my daughter Amanda (12) and my son Mark (15). There was another older girl that could be more than a year or two more than my son as well. I didn't know where she was at the moment though. The mother of those kids came over to me and my husband and sat down. She introduced herself saying her name was Helen and her husband Kevin. She told me about her kids - Lilly 12, Luke 15 and Susan 16. My daughter Amanda was off playing hide and seek and Mark was off exploring the trees with Luke. Helen kept yelling at her older daughter to get out of the tent and bring her another drink. This woman was a joy to speak with - so nice and calm except for when she was yelling at her oldest daughter. Finally after some time and some drinks we got into the topic of our jobs. She was a flight attendant and her husband was in construction. When I mentioned I was a sex therapist that really got her attention. It normally does when I tell people but she sat right up and got all excited. "Now we're talking" she said. I explained I don't have sex with people and that I help people with the mental issues of sex and try to help guide them to what they want from sexuality. She was now a bit tipsy and told me that she would love to have sex with another couple and I, also with a couple drinks in me, admitted the same. What she said next I didn't see coming. "Heather... I want to fuck my kids. Can you help me make that happen?" I told her to settle down as I think she was a bit more drunk than I thought. I told her I think we should call it a night. I went off to my tent with my husband and fell asleep almost right away. The next day she came right over to me as we were packing up our tent. She must not have been THAT drunk as she recalled what she said to me the night before. She told me she was serious about having sex with another couple and we should talk after the trip if I was interested. She said she was serious about her interest with her kids too and if I'd be willing to help her she would love to help me make any of my fantasy's come true too. Wow she was serious and not drunk this time either. She kept her distance for the rest of the day giving me time to think. That night before I went to bed I told her I was very interested in trying with her and her husband but would need to speak to my husband. She asked about her kids and I told her I think that might be a bit too much. She told me how big of a fantasy this was for her and she could go thru with us as couples if I could help her make that a possibility. I said I understood and would think it over. Me and my husband have spoke about having sex with another couple on many occasions but it's never came up because we were too close to them or feared it wouldn't go well or would happen too often. This seemed perfect as it would be a onetime thing. They don't know too much about us and us about them. After the vacation was over we would go our separate ways. But sex with kids? What was I to do? That isn't what I signed up for and wouldn't be very professional of me to help her do that. I assumed my kids would somehow get involved in this as well and that was really what I didn't want. I couldn't stop thinking about it though. I was getting very aroused that night but with my kids in the same tent I couldn't jump my husband. I tried to quietly reach into my pants and rub my clit. I was so wet. I thought of this woman and slowly started to finger myself. I pictured her husband and putting his hard cock in my mouth. I pictured her kids and feeling their young bodies. Oh no, I couldn't do this. I tried to have it as a fantasy but I just couldn't, it was too disturbing to me. But her and her husband... I wanted them so bad. Was I willing to throw out my professionalism and sell out her kids to incest just to get what I wanted so badly? Where does a sex therapist go when she needs advice? Giving help to someone else is one thing but it's so hard to look back at yourself and give good help. I knew if I agreed to help her my kids would get sucked into this so was I willing to do incest myself? No I couldn't do that. Hell, Kelly has been trying to get me into that for almost a year now. Kelly... that's it. I'd seen a older man on this trip that brought his laptop and was trying to find a signal for Internet service. I would ask to borrow it and contact Kelly. I think she would just tell me to go ahead and screw my kids or she might turn it back on me and just tell me to decide for myself. Me and Kelly haven't spoke much recently so maybe she wouldn't even answer. But where else was I to turn? I had to try... ************************ Kelly I so sorry this took so long to write down. I been working a lot and busy and just a lot on my mind. Whenever I sat down to put these thoughts on paper I just got so emotional. This was a very difficult thing to write and I still have a lot more to write down. I will keep trying my best I just not as good at this as you are. Heather ********************** I spoke with my husband about what was proposed. He seemed interested but when I mentioned the kids as well he looked very concerned. I wasn't all so sure about it yet myself. All I knew is I wanted to have this group sex experience very badly and if this woman wanted her kids involved I don't see how I'd talk them into it without my own as well. The kids had got to know each other over the couple days we been hiking so far and I don't see how I could tell them it was a good thing to do if I wasn't doing it either. Plus its not a good thing to do. I would be lying to them just to get what I want. As we walked along I spoke to my kids very quickly that we had to have a very serious talk in the next couple days. They asked what about so I told them it involved sex so to keep it quiet. Both my kids know what I do for a living and understand that these things are taken seriously and if I was to tell them someone it wasn't to be spread around to others or their friends. I told them just to think over what they thought about the subject and I need to figure some things out for myself first before we had this discussion. Next I know I needed to talk to Kelly somehow so I asked a nice older gentleman who had brought along his laptop if I could borrow it for a little while when we set up camp. He told me the connection was not very good or stable but I was free to try if I so wish it. I thanked him and crossed my fingers it would work. I was pretty sure what Kelly would tell me but I really felt her opinion was important to me. I contacted her that evening via email and over the next few days on and off I was able to get info from her. Of course she was very pro me doing this. But thought it best I attempt with my family alone before mixing with this other family. I was even able to start a small chat with her online where she quickly tried to tempt us into doing things right there in the woods. I wasn't even sure what I wanted yet let alone do it where we could be caught. I told my kids the whole truth. That if It wasn't for my fantasy I wouldn't be considering this at all. If either of them were scared or didn't want to do this or felt weird in any way I wanted them to say so. Everyone felt awkward but yet somehow still wanted to do this. I don't think it's what they really wanted and they were just doing this for me. What kind of a mother am I to put my kids into such a situation. I felt so selfish but yet my kids and my husband insisted on giving this a try. My daughter was the most worried and didn't understand why a man has to put it inside her. Something going into her she didn't like the sound of at all. She was worried only he would feel good and not her. She didn't want to do something so weird and not enjoy it she said. We agreed to some ground rules first. The rules were just me and my daughter would try alone first if we were uncomfortable it would stop there. After that it would only happen with the 4 of us.. No seeking behind each other's backs to fool around it was going to be a group activity only. After we got home from our vacation we would discuss it again and if 1 of us didn't wish to continue then none of us would. We finally ended our hike and got into town. We rented two rooms side by side one for us girls and the other for the boys just so we could have some privacy as we tested this out. I couldn't stop thinking about this other woman and her husband. They were exciting me so much. I was so aroused and I was wishing it was them we were joining tonight. Me and my daughter got up to our room and put on the TV and just relaxed a little bit. We all ordered dinner and ate first. My husband and son decided to go out around town and find something to do and leave us girls alone for a while. I went to take a shower and clean up a bit first. I told my daughter to check the internet access we had in the room to see if I got any new email. As I washed myself I thought about my daughter and how young she was and the fact she was a girl. I'd never been with a woman in my life at all. Now I was about to do this with a female and my daughter and she is a child. I started to get scared and worried and then I just started to cry uncontrollably. What was I doing I must be insane. I just couldn't do this or maybe it was happing to fast. I over think things a lot maybe that is what I was doing here. I heard a knock at the door and my daughter telling me not to cry that she really wants to do this to so not to be sad. I not sure if I believed her or not. Or if at 12 almost 13 if she was old enough to make those choices. I think she is a very mature girl but she still is a child. I really felt like I was losing my mind. I put back on my bra and panties and wrapped myself up in a robe and came out. I see my daughter sitting on the bed with the laptop typing away. She must be talking with Kelly. I went straight over and told Kelly I didn't think I could do this. I really was going to change my mind. I felt like a pedophile. Kelly asked me to try but go slowly. To start by just taking off my robe. This didn't seem like a big deal. So I dropped my robe off the side of the bed and sat there in my bra and panties. My daughter seen me do this and figured we were starting. She wanted to keep things totally equal between us so off came her PJ top right away. She was in the cute matching Barbie bra and panties. This wasn't helping me forget she was a child that was for sure. Kelly tells me to tell her to take them off and she quickly did when I asked reveling her very small breasts and vagina. Her breasts were round but small you could tell they had a lot of growing left to do. Her vagina was so small it didn't even have lips yet just a slit down the middle of her and it wasn't a very long one not a hair on her yet. Kelly asked me to touch her breasts so I reached out and cupped them with my hands. They were very firm but soft. They were great for her age and I guess she should be proud of them. My daughter told me it was unfair that I still had my bra on so in the interest of keeping it equal I took off my bra and panties. I felt very embarrassed and shy but my daughter seem very interested in my larger breasts. She looked down at my vagina "Wow mom your lips are so big" she said. She seemed totally fascinated in how my body was different than hers. Kelly asked her to kiss my nipples which she did a little. I admit I felt something but wouldn't I feel anything from anyone who did that to me. It shouldn't mean anything I knew that better than anyone. I lay down on the bed and just told my daughter to lay down too and relax but she was more interested in getting back to her conversation with Kelly. So I let them talk. I just wanted to lay down and think this over some more. Maybe just spending some time in the nude would clam me down feel more relaxed. Why was I all panicked and scared and my daughter had no problems as long as it was equal of course. My daughter asked me what she could do to make me cum. I told her nothing now let's just lay here together. Kelly was urging her on I just wanted to relax with her for a while. I felt her lay next to me a little and rub my nipples. This was ok I guess it was relaxing and not that bad. This was so nice we lay next to each other for almost half an hour I think I almost fell asleep even. I was starting to feel a lot more calm. Just feeling her next to me was nice. I heard the computer beep again and my daughter jumped away from me to go answer it. I thought I shouldn't fall asleep so I turned over a bit and put on the TV and just watched some news. All of a sudden my daughter rushes over to me and jumps on me putting her legs on either side of my head. I was now looking right at her pussy. This must be Kelly's idea. "Honey get off me please. I don't know if I ready for this yet. Please don't force this on me. Its to big a step" I asked my daughter. I felt her move the laptop closer to the side of my leg and without getting off me yet could hear her typing away. Kelly must have been advising her on what to do. I had to make a choice now. Either give up and start to lick at this tiny pussy above me. Or grab my daughter and flip her off me and end this for tonight at least. I decided to lick. I stuck out my tongue and ran it quickly across my daughters slit. I heard her giggle and keep typing on the laptop. The first lick wasn't to bad didn't taste horrible either so I kept going. I crossed the line of no return so I couldn't stop now. I couldn't believe how fast she was getting wet. I told her this too and just tried to focus on licking it. I realized she wasn't returning the favor yet. Should I ask. Why not I was in this far. "Honey you can start doing it back anytime you want" I told her. I opened my legs to give her room and I felt her move the laptop between them she wasn't going to give up talking to Kelly now was she. Finally I felt a lick at my slit and it wasn't to bad. I wasn't even wet yet and I felt her trying to push a finger inside me. It was a little uncomfortable feeling it going in while I was bone dry but I didn't feel like complaining at this stage. I could hear her breathing get faster and harder. I just kept going lick after lick on her slit and clit. Her clit was so small it was hard to find at all. After a few moments she started to moan some and squirm. "mommy I feel funny" she told me. "Hang on your going to love this" I told her. I think my daughter was about to have her first orgasm and it would be because of me her mother. I licked her clit as fast as I could and I heard her let out this long quiet ohhhhhhhhhh mommy. I was pretty sure she had just cum so I lay my head back and told her not to stop on mine and she didn't I felt pretty close myself. A couple more minutes passed and I felt it happen my pussy just exploded and I felt a wave of pleasure go over my body like none before I think I let out a large moan but I wasn't to sure and I was out of breath. I lay back but my daughter didn't move from on top of me. I think she wanted to go again. Did I have the energy for it. If I didn't know I might not again so... "Let's go again. Lets feel good," I told my daughter. It wasn't long after we started to lick again that my husband and son returned. Coming in thru the side door that connected our rooms together thankfully. Opening the main door and letting someone passing by seeing me eat out my little girl might not have been a great idea. I was embarrassed but just really into lust right now and didn't even want to think about them at all. I just kept licking away more and more. My daughter moved the laptop away and now was really focused on licking me. She must have closed it or gave it to my husband or son. I didn't know or care. I just wanted to cum again. I heard my husband tell my son to come on over and help his sister lick me. You would think two people licking you be better but its really not all they did was fight over who got to lick it more. I felt Amanda not moving away but my son did get in there and I could feel a 2nd tongue lick at parts of my pussy a little bit. I think my husband noticed the trouble he was having and eventually just told my son to get his dick out and put it in his mom. Omg I couldn't do this. I've never had anyone's dick but my husband inside me. This was way more than I asked for tonight. Before I could complain I felt him on his knees between my legs and grabbing my legs to make sure there was room. I felt his dick at my entrance and then in one big shove he was all the way inside me. Omg it felt so good to have something inside me. I wasn't full but it was in there and I felt him just fucking me like crazy. It felt so deep inside me. I couldn't imagine that my pussy was this deep but wherever it was he was deep into it. Plus my daughter still licking at me sensations were on overload right now. I don't know how long it was but I felt him slow down and this warm feeling inside my pussy was splashing round in me. Omg my own son had just cum inside me. My pill better be working this week as his seed was now inside me. He pulled out and backed away from me I'm sure he was more than satisfied with his fuck. My husband asked me how he felt I told him it felt so deep but I really wasn't to sure what to think yet. My daughter told me she just wants to lick my clit now she didn't want to go near my entrance after that was in me. I didn't mind at all she was doing such a good job on it anyways. My husband asked her if she was ready for her turn. "No way daddy. I just want to lick with mom I don't want anything in me." she told him. I looked over at my husband he wasn't even hard yet. Either he was disturbed by this or he was so excited his penis didn't know what to do. My husband asked if it was ok if she stopped licking me a little so she could try him in her mouth. I told him it wasn't a problem with me but only if she wanted it. She didn't sound too excited about it but told him she would try. I just kept licking at her clit I don't think anything or anyone was going to make her move off my face. I could hear moans from my husband he must be getting his dick sucked. I hope Amanda learned what was fun about it. It's not always about you. Putting a dick in my mouth is never oh yes I'm going to love this. It's more of I love making him feel nice and I know he would do the same for me. I think she understood that but took it way more seriously which is why she felt so comfortable in the sixty-nine with me. I could hear my husband ask our son if he wanted to fuck her now. My daughter objected right away no way he's not going near me. They didn't always get along but they didn't seem to be fighting maybe she just didn't want him to be the first, but objections with her brother would continue. My husband moved in behind her. There was now two of them above me. I watched him rub his hard dick on her slit. I could now clearly see the computer to the side of us which he was checking back on for advice from Kelly this whole time I should have known. My daughters pussy was so small and he was so thick there was no way it was going to fit inside her without hurting her. I was scared for her. He pushed in a little and I saw her open up enough to let the head of his cock enter. "Daddy daddy it's so big" she cried out. That must have boosted his ego some but at the same time he better take that as slow down and don't hurt me too. "Daddy it didn't look this big" she says. "Think about my tongue honey. You will be ok," I told her trying to get her to clam down. I had forgotten about my son but he seemed ready for more action as he got back between my legs and pushed into me again. This is what I wanted group sex not exactly who I pictured it with though in my fantasy's. My husband kept pushing into our daughter he must have been a little more than half his dick inside her now. Kelly distracting my husband was a good thing it kept him a lot slower and at a better pace. He had got to a point where he could move it in and out of her so he had stopped trying to put all of himself in which was a good idea. I could hear my daughters moans and she cried out for me to lick her more. Me or him she was close again and she gone thru so much I was going to make sure she felt another. Almost at the same time I heard her cry out and my husband begin to slow down his pumping. I realized he must be Cumming in her and hoped she was ok with that. I was so worried about her. "Mommy stop licking it please" she said. She finally got off of me and said that felt good but her pussy tickles and hurts to much. She must just be on sensitivity overload. A bit of a rest wouldn't hurt her at this point. I was going to get up myself when I realized I was still being fucked by my son. I didn't really want to look at him just closed my eyes and waited for the next load of cum to hit the back of my vagina. My husband had a big grin on his face he must have been satisfied for sure. My son cummed again and pulled out. I felt so odd right away. I just got two load in me and made my daughter cum twice and watch her lose her virginity to my husband. She sat over in a chair in the corner, legs open like she was airing out her pussy or something to that effect. I just had to get up and ran back into the bathroom. What did I just do. Was this what I wanted. Had things gone to fast to far. I needed another shower and to brush my teeth.. I could still feel my sons cum in me I wasn't going to be able to sleep like that. My husband came into the bathroom to check up on me. I told him how worried I was. He says the kids seem happy and he had fun. But if I didn't like it we would stop of course. I told him I felt very strange and was worried about Amanda. She didn't seem to enjoy intercourse at all and if things were not equal she wasn't happy. He suggested she might be gay. I think it was way too early to know that yet. Plus it her first time how many really enjoy it and in such an odd way for her too. She did get off twice. Maybe we all just needed a long rest and see how things looked in the morning. ************************ Ok, it took a while but I've done by best trying to explain what happened. Hope I did the right thing I still have trouble with all my choices but have to live with them now. Heather ********************* So after first experience with my family I still wasn't feeling right about it and was up all night thinking about the experience. I just couldn't sleep. When I finally got to sleep it was very early in the morning and I slept right though into the afternoon. I had a 2nd experience with my family that afternoon but I recall very little of it cause I was so sleepy and just out of it. But I do recall being fucked and cumming again. I decided it was just going to take some time to get used to this and I'm sure I'd come to think of this as pretty normal and adjust over time. That night I spoke with Helen the woman I met during our hike that I wanted to have a group sex experience with. She had wanted my help in talking her kids into doing it with her and her husband. We decided to travel together down the road for a couple days until we got to a point our families had to go their separate ways to go to our respective homes. We decided to combine our efforts and rent out a large suite at a hotel were both families could stay but yet have their own privacy as well if needed. The place was huge. 4 bedrooms 2 bathrooms a large common area. This cost a good amount of cash and it was the last we had in our vacation budget but it would be worth it for all this. I spoke with her kids again and the youngest two seemed very interested in trying "naked things" with the family. The older daughter didn't seem to want any part of it but Helen said this was something they were deciding to do as a family and she would go along with the families choice. I was so tired that night and slept very well. The next afternoon was the big day and I wasn't excited but wasn't nervous anymore either. I felt the most calm I had in days and slept like a baby. The next day both families gathered in the master bedroom and we pulled in a 2nd bed from the other large bedroom to put side by side so we could all mess around on it. Helen wanted us girls to start off getting eaten out by our sons and the husbands can eat the kids. So us girls striped down to the nude. Helen did this very easy with no sense of shame at all. She was about the same height as me. Her breasts were bigger than mine but not by much; I guessed around a larger C cup and she was totally shaved around her pussy. Her younger daughter Lilly was undressing but much slower. For a 12yr old she had a very nice size breast a large A cup was my guess and not a hair on her pussy which I assumed was still natural at her age. The difference between her and my daughter was her lips stuck out much more and were very noticeable. My daughter poked me in my side and even pointed at them. I think she was jealous that this girl her age was a bit more developed than she was. The older daughter who is 16 years old still had not undressed at all. She was sitting back on the bed trying to not even look at us. I told her it would be ok not to be shy all us girls were nude she wouldn't be any different. "This is wrong. I don't want sex with my family or anyone yet." she said. "We are doing this as a family. Get your clothes off now Susan before I tear them off" said Helen in an angry voice. Susan lowered her head and slowly took of her shirt and pants. Her mom getting impatient pushed her back on the bed and yanked off her daughters panties very quickly. Susan covered her pussy with her hand in embarrassment. "Don't cover it," Helen said as she slapped her daughters hand away. Susan took off her bra she had some very nice breasts herself around a B cup. She wasn't shaven but it look like she kept it well trimmed very short hair just a small patch of it on the top of her pussy. The men were just standing back looking at us drooling at all the hot pussy they were about to eat. Me and Helen lay back side by side on the bed with my daughter beside me and her youngest daughter beside her. We all opened our legs and the men took their spots between them. My son with me. Helen's son with her and both fathers got between their youngest girls' pussy. They didn't stop to ask questions or anything; just felt licks going up and down my slit right away and soft breathing and moans started almost right away. I then looked over and realized there was a 5th girl that wasn't with a man there wasn't a 5th male for her. I told Susan to move over here and kneel above her mother's face. Before Susan could object, which it looked like she was about to, her mother complained first. "She can wait her turn. I'm not eating her pussy," Helen said. "Why not?" I asked her. "This is what you wanted to be with your family. Well your girl over there needs to get wet to and you should be the one to help her." "It's ok, I don't want to do anything," replied Susan. Helen rolled her eyes and looked over at her daughter. "Get over here now kneel and don't move," she commanded. Susan moved over her mom and gasped very loud at the first lick her mom took. "Feels good doesn't it?" I asked her. She didn't say anything, just gave me a look that told me everything. I knew she enjoyed the feeling but that look told me she didn't want to enjoy it. I went back to look at my son eating me out. I was getting very wet and excited. I looked around the bed every pussy getting licked it was so exciting I could hear breathing and moans getting louder. I felt my own orgasm starting inside me. I was so excited I couldn't hold on very long and I could tell Helen was just as close. She kept on panting and yelling yes yes yes over and over. I think I went off first but she was right behind me as we felt a quick climax. As soon as she came down to earth she pushed her daughter off her face and pulled away from her son. "Come on girls I think we need to get those dicks out of their pants," she told everyone. The kids had not cum yet but I was sure they would before this was over so I told my daughter to sit up and let the guys get their pants off. This didn't take long. It looked more like a race to see which guy could get their pants and underwear off first. It was too close to call as soon as I saw my son jump out off his bottoms I looked over at my husband and his pants were off and so were the other males. The two teen boys were already rock hard. The men were not yet. It could be over excitement but I thought my husband wouldn't need any extra help after a couple days of this but it seemed he still did. "On your knees girls, let's suck some dick," Helen said, barking out orders to us all. She dove right in and put all of her son in her mouth in moments. Her son Luke looked to be a bit shorter than my sons penis in the 5-6 inch range as mine was about 7 inch. Neither boy was very thick at all and that made it easy to get it all in the mouth. She looked to be in heaven, like it was ice cream she was sucking on. Her son just closed his eyes put his hand on his moms head and opened his mouth in awe in how good he was feeling. She pulled her mouth off her son's dick for just a moment making a smacking popping sound as she did so. "Susan, get over there and suck your dad's dick with your little sister. Share it," she told her. "I don't want to suck dick mom. It's nasty." she snapped back at her mom. "You will suck it and you will love it. Look at your sister go, She can do it and so can you." Very much indeed Lilly was sucking her father's dick like she had done it a million times. Bobbing her head up and down the shaft. I looked over at my daughter she was sucking on her father too and doing very well but still not as fast but at least she was doing it. My husband sure wasn't going to complain and I doubt Helen's husband Kevin was going to either especially now that he had two girls running their lips and tongues up and down his hard cock. He started to fuck Susan's mouth with thrusts and he held her head in place. That I hate a lot; do you want me to suck it.. or do you want to fuck me? He didn't seem to do this with Lilly either cause of her age or maybe just cause something was different about they way they treated Susan and how that started I wasn't to sure. It wasn't long before our boys were cumming and me and Helen had a mouth full of sperm. Helen just looked over at me with still a bit dripping on her mouth as she licked it off and made sure it all went down into her tummy. "Ok girls, back on your backs. It's time to get fucked," she ordered. She told her husband to do Lilly first and make sure she got off. I reminded him she very tight so go slow. I lay back and my son, just like he had before, plunged into me in one full stroke. My daughter was laying beside me and I could see my husband enter her. She still very tight and I don't think she likes being penetrated very much but told me she was happy we were doing this together. Back over to Helen she was trying to guide her son into her pussy which he did finally and wow was she into it fast. "Fuck me! Fuck your mother's pussy. Fill me with your hot teen cum. Yeah you're just a little boy fucking his mommy and you love it," she was yelling out loud. Wow, she was really into this and just yelling up a storm. The dirty talk just didn't stop coming out of her mouth. I looked over at Lilly to make sure she was alright. Her father was about half into her and thrusting in and out so at least he wasn't trying to get it all in on the first try. She looked to be moving her hips into him with each thrust and didn't look to be in pain. My daughter taped me on the shoulder... "Mommy. Why is that woman saying so many bad words?" she asked. I told her some people just get more excited either describing what was happing to them or telling people what they wanted them to do and during sex cursing was very common and normal. I told her I didn't do that very often and preferred to just enjoy the sensations my pussy gave me. She asked if she was allowed to say those things. How could I tell her no after all we done? I told her as long as the bad words were only during these sexual sessions and don't become a part of her regular vocabulary. She also asked if she could get on her hands and knees which is how she had been taking it up till now. I assumed she felt more comfortable that way and told her of course she could. She changed positions and my husband quickly got in behind her and went back to work fucking her. She asked me what dirty things she should say to him. I told her whatever came to mind it was whatever pleased her. I told her to ask him to fuck her little pussy good and then just go from there. "Fuck me daddy. Fuck my little pussy." she told him. She laughed and laughed at her words she loved it. If this got her to enjoy intercourse she could swear all she wanted as far as I was concerned. So now my daughter and Helen were just cursing up a storm begging to be fucked and cummed in. I checked over on Lilly again. Her dad was picking up the pace and Lilly's face either showed pain or she was close to orgasm. So I asked her if it hurt. She could hardly answer me but told me no and gasped out loud. Her father looked even closer and I didn't think he was going to last long enough for her. So I told Susan to help her sister out and rub her clit. She made a face that told me she didn't want to but I encouraged her and told her just to rub fast with two fingers on it and she started to do it. It didn't take long to see Lilly arch her back as she reached her first orgasm. I think her father was right there with her as he cried out how tight she was and that it was squeezing his cock. He slowly pulled out of his daughter and his cock went limp instantly. Lilly pulled away and moved back on the back to relax after that overwhelming experience she just had. Helen looking up pointed at Susan. "Suck your father dick. Get him hard cause your next," she told Susan. Susan slowly leaned down and put her father in her mouth. "Can you taste your little sister on his dick?" her mother asked her. I was thinking it was sure to be a mix of her sister and her father's cum after shooting it off inside her and I don't think Susan liked it very much but she keep sucking away until her father was rock hard again. "Bend over," he told her. He got in behind Susan as he rubbing his dick on her pussy lips. "Please daddy don't do this. I'm a virgin," she begged him. "You won't be in a moment," he told her Then with one long thrust he buried himself inside his daughter's pussy. She cried out in pain but he just didn't stop. He was all in her in one big push and started to fuck her fast like she had done this a million times. "Slow down there Kevin, can't you see you're hurting your daughter?" I told him. "She's a big girl, she can handle it," he snapped back at me. What was with the anger? I was worried about girl as it didn't look like she was going to enjoy her first sexual experience and I was partly to blame. She put her head down and buried it in a pillow as she was fucked from behind without mercy. I was able to take my eyes off them when I heard my daughter cry out, telling her father to cum in her cunt. After seeing her cum a couple times now I was sure she was about to have another. My hubby told her he was just about to and his thrusts came to a stop as I knew he was unloading his sperm within her. I wasn't not sure if she truly enjoyed it this time, but letting her talk dirty sure seemed to help. If nothing else she got off on that alone. Looking back towards Susan, she was still taking it very fast and hard. Lucky for her this made her father cum a lot faster and he wasn't in her very long. As soon as he pulled out of her she was off to the corner of the bed and she curled up and tried to ignore everyone as best she could. Our sons were still fucking me and Helen at a good pace and holding out very well for teen boys. My husband had moved over to Lilly and put her and Amanda side by side bent over. It looked like our husbands were going to swap daughters. Doing our daughter was one thing but now I was watching him fuck another child one even younger than our own daughter. Only by a few months but younger none the less. I watched as Kevin slid into Amanda very slow and gentle. At least he wasn't out to harm her. The men talked about how tight each other's girl was and even did a little high five as they fucked them. Helen was having her own orgasm by her cries of "I'm cumming I'm cumming!". She made it little obvious. I then thought about my own pussy and realized how close I was myself. I decide it was my turn and really started to thrust back trying to help push myself over the top. It took only another few moments before I felt myself cum and felt my son cum within me again as I squeezed out every drop of cum in him. As I relax and came down from my high I heard my daughter start to panic. "No No I don't want that. Mommy help me!" she yelled out. I looked over and jumped up right away as I saw Kevin trying to enter her ass. So I pushed him off her right away. "Isn't her pussy tight enough for you. You can't to fuck a child in the ass with no lubrication even!" I yelled at him. "She likes to be bent over so I just assumed anal she would be into it," he said back. I just thought in my head what stupid logic that was. Just because a girl enjoys doggie style doesn't mean she's into anal sex. "Yeah come on, I wouldn't mind watching someone take it in the ass," suggested Helen. Well I knew what I had to do then. I wasn't going to let either of the 12yr olds do it. The way they were treating Susan I couldn't let her do it and Helen couldn't watch if she was doing it so.... "I'll do it then. But not you. Kevin you're too thick so I'll take one of the smaller boys," I told them "Take the other in your pussy then. DP style," Helen told me. "Why not take all four men with the other two in your mouth? Oh this will be exciting!" Helen moved around to get a better view she wanted a front row seat. Oh my, what have I got myself into now? I told my son to lay back and he was still nice and hard. Now I've done anal before but it's not something I enjoy much and normally do it only as a treat for my husband from time to time. My husband is a lot thicker so I thought this shouldn't be as bad. I tried to rub some of my own pussy juice into my ass as a bit of lubrication at least. I got on my knees reverse cowgirl and grabbed my son's cock and lined it up with my asshole. Ouch! I felt it slide inside me and I pushed right down on it. I sat right down on it all the way. It was very uncomfortable but I could handle it. Helen moved around to the back to see it right up inside me. She was loving this and was just talking to everyone about the view. I leaned back a bit and opened my legs and motioned for Luke to get between them. It didn't take him long to get between my legs and push into me. Holy shit! I've never felt so full in my life! It was a nice feeling but at the same time I would love to get that thing out of my ass. It just didn't belong there. I couldn't really move on it much with Luke in front of me fucking me like a bat out of hell. My husband and Kevin moved beside me and I'd grab one with my hands and jerk them off and put the other in my mouth. I'd rotate them every few moments. Helen was just loving watching me do this with four males at once. "Oh yeah, fuck her good boys. Like the slut she is. Look how much she likes cock. She's just a dirty whore," she was calling me. The horrible names just kept coming out of her mouth and I felt that way. I felt like a dirty whore. Out of the corner or my eye I saw my daughter and she didn't look to proud of me. I felt like I had just lost a lot of respect in her eyes. But it was too late now I couldn't stop as that wouldn't be fair either. Luke was fucking me like crazy. I still had my son in my ass but I wasn't able to move up and down on it very much so he just had to be happy with it sitting inside me for now. I was stroking my husband and put Kevin in my mouth. He was so hard. I was surprised how long the boys were going even after cumming a couple times. They must be running on pure excitement by now. I took Kevin out of my mouth and looked the other way to take my husband in my mouth. I could still taste the young pussy on their dicks. I'm stoking Kevin when Helen tells him to cum on my face. She must have recognized the look on her husband's face because before I could object he squirted all over me. Its dripping off my nose and chin and onto my breasts. I hate sperm all over me. Its degrading and its sticky and nasty. As I try to shake it off my face I feel my pussy being filled with cum again. So much cum in me - I hoped my birth control pills could handle all this. Once Luke pulled out I was able to ride my son with my ass much easier. He asked me if he could cum in my ass. I decided it was better in there than on me so I told him to go ahead. Sucking my husband he begins to cum in my mouth and I drank it down. My husband's cum tastes so good, I just loved it. I could drink a 2L bottle of it if that was possible. Three males down, one to go. I really put my ass into it now. As I said before, anal is not something I really enjoy so I was just trying to get this over with. Helen on the other hand was right up close to my ass watching it go in and out of me. She was loving the view. "Cum in your mother's ass boy," she told my son. Almost on cue he did just as he was told as I felt my ass fill with a warm gooey liquid. I felt so nasty after taking all four males. Cum in my ass, pussy, mouth, and all over my body. I excused myself to go clean off in the bathroom for a moment. I figured after all that then men would be out of energy and this would be the end of today session but I was wrong. I returned to see Helen with my husband and her husband in her mouth at the same time. I was surprised the men let their dicks be so close together even touch. My daughter was just moving into a 69 with Lilly. It was even a bit cute to see two 12 year-olds eat each other out. Susan was bent over with her brother in her mouth and my son was in behind her giving her a good fuck. Slowly and soft this time at least. She still didn't look too happy about her situation though. Helen took the men out of her mouth and they were back to being hard. She lay back and spread her legs. She looked right at me and told me to sit on her face. This is what I wanted. No kids just us adults. I got right on top and got right into the 69 putting my face in her pussy. There was still cum in there but of course I was filled in all holes so what did it matter? She was just sucking my clit down her mouth and it felt good. I'm licking her pussy and I notice a dick that looks very familiar. There was my husband all ready to penetrate her. Then I felt someone else behind me and before I could say anything it was shoved right inside me. Oh my, so full again, but after taking two dicks at once this didn't feel like much. The feeling of her licking me while being fucked by her husband was just so overwhelming. This was so exciting was just moaning and yelling with pleasure. This is what I wanted and I loved it. Sure she didn't taste all that great and he was fucking me way too fast but just knowing this is what I wanted made it all that more exciting. Amanda and Lilly kept licking each other's pussy and soft moans were coming from their direction. The boys were still going with Susan. I don't think she was enjoying herself at all. I would have felt bad for her but I was way too excited with what was happing to my body. I knew it wouldn't be long till my pussy was filled with more cum. I wanted to get off myself too so I really put my hips into it grinding myself into his cock and her tongue at the same time. I kept focused on her clit but as I said she didn't taste as good as my daughter did and I just wanted to hear her cry out. I was able to lick my husband's dick a little as he moved into her but he didn't hold still long enough to really have any fun with it. My husband was the first to cum and Helen was begging me not to stop. I flicked her clit as fast I could with my tongue and she let out her cry of climax. A bit of cum dripped out of her and I licked that up tasting that familiar salty taste. Ok, now it was my turn. I wanted this and told them to fuck and lick my pussy good. I felt my climax rise and I squeezed his cock with all my might just trying to milk the cum out of his dick. He let out a soft groan and it wasn't much after all he been thru today but I knew for sure he was cumming again. He pulled out of me and just lay back on the bed. He was spent. My husband announced he needed the bathroom and I lay back myself to rest. Amanda and Lilly were still licking and loving it. My son at some point was done and had cum again but Luke was still getting sucked on by his sister. "Mom, her pussy tastes so good. Want to give it a lick?" Amanda asked me. Helen, still out of breath herself, told me to give it a try so I went over and just licked along Lilly's slit a few times. It was almost like licking sugar. She tasted so nice. I didn't want to rob my daughter of her fun so I told her to put her head back and just enjoy herself. I went to clean off next and by the time I returned Amanda and Lilly were done laying next to each other looking very happy. I think we were in agreement that we were all out of breath and taking a break now would be a good idea. My husband was the first to speak up that he was hungry. So this was the end of my first and what turned out to be my only group sex experience. After dinner the boys wanted to go see some baseball game so I took some time to myself and just lay in bed and watched a TV movie. I must have fallen asleep during the movie as when I awoke my husband was in bed next to me just holding me in his arms. He was still awake and asked me how I was after all that happened today. "I honestly haven't thought about it much yet. It will take some time to sink in," I told him. Right then I was just happy to lay there was him holding me in his arms. It was after midnight when I looked at the clock and everyone must have been in bed fast asleep. There wasn't a sound to be heard. Hold it. Yes there was. It was quiet but I could hear something. "Do you hear that?" I asked my husband. He just looked at me with a dumb look that I know means he doesn't know what I'm talking about. I listen more close and I was sure it was coming from Helen and Kevin's room. It almost sounded like a whimpering dog. Those were not moaning sex noises I was sure of that I heard enough of those this afternoon. I walked over to their door and could now tell it was someone crying. I quickly opened the door to see Susan on all four with her father fucking her in the ass and her head buried in her mom's pussy. "What are you doing to her?" I asked. "Can't you see you're hurting your daughter" "She is a girl and she will just have to get used to being fucked when needed," Kevin told me. That was horrible. What have I started? They were just going to use this as an excuse to hurt and rape their daughter anytime they wanted now. I had no idea why they treated her so bad to being with but this only made things worse and it was my fault or at least it felt that way. I moved towards the bed and grabbed her away from them. "What are doing?" snapped Helen "Undress and join us or leave us be with her" "I can't do that. Once we're gone you can do what you want with her. But I can't be in the room next door knowing you're hurting her like this. We're leaving tomorrow and that's it!" I yelled at them. I was so mad. Mostly with myself. I grabbed Susan's hand and led her out of the room and brought her back to ours, locking the door behind us. I told my husband what was going on and that Susan would be spending the night in our room with us tonight. She thanked me over and over. She was so scared of her parents. I told her she didn't have to take that abuse and I was so sorry for adding to it. She was upset she wasn't a virgin anymore. I told her that wasn't how her first time should be I really hoped the next time she had sex that it was more pleasurable. I told her she could keep doing it with her family if they would treat her better and that if she continued to feel used and abused she should seek out help for it right away. She lay between me and my husband very grateful for my help. "Let me do something to repay you" Susan said and began to rub my pussy through my panties. "No No honey, you don't have to do that for me. Sex is something you share with someone you love not as away to repay or give payment for something or someone. If anything we should be pleasing you. I think you are the only one I haven't seen reach orgasm. Would you like to have one? " I asked of her. She quietly nodded her head. Now sex with other people's kids was not something I wanted, especially without the parents there, but she had been through a lot and I felt this was the least I could do. Still naked, I told her to come kneel above my face. I just licked away at her pussy and I could hear her breathing pick up. I wanted to make this girl cum very bad. She leaned over and pulled my panties off to the side enough to begin to lick me back. I told her she didn't have to but she said to let her. My husband just watched us lick pussy as our moans got stronger and harder. "Fuck me sir.. please," she begged him. "Are you sure Susan?" I asked her, "I think he's happy just watching us." "Yes, I want to feel good with a real man," she said. This was a boost to my husband's ego as he dropped his pants pretty fast and got in behind her. Just as it was a couple times now I was eating a pussy watching it being fucked at the same time. It was just as hot this time as it was before, if not more so now than ever before as I could tell she was finally into it. "Use your hips honey, go right into his dick," I instructed her. I felt my body tense up and now here I was eating out a sixteen year-old girl that wasn't my daughter while watching my husband fuck her at the same time she was eating me out. This, out of everything for the whole holiday, was the best and most satisfying orgasm by far. She pulled her lips away from my pussy and cried out like a wolf howling at the moon. She must be cumming and I was so happy we were the ones to help her have it. We all lay back under the cover and held each other tight. She thanked me and my husband for making her feel good and we all feel asleep. The next morning we woke up early and packed up the car. Susan still asleep in our bed. I couldn't stay here another moment and just hoped that Susan would be alright. I was putting the last suitcase in the trunk when Helen came running out of the front. "Stop don't go. I'm sorry," she yelled after us. "We have to go. I hope you decide to treat Susan with more respect. She is your daughter so why you would hurt her like that I have no idea. Do think about what you're doing in the future or your family will fall apart and this will be the least of your worries," I calmly told her. I closed the trunk and got into the car and told my husband to drive away. In the rear-view mirror Helen didn't move from the spot I left her until we were out of view. I'm not sure what became of them and I doubt I will ever know. I do hope Susan stood up for herself and wasn't used over and over and that if they did continue it was pleasurable for all involved. As for me and my family we have talked about it but nothing has happened in the weeks after this yet. I'm sure if more does happen Kelly and this site will be the first to hear of it! Chapter 3 - Anal Christmas ========================= Here is an entry I wrote about me taking it in the ass for Christmas time. I hope I put enough info in there to get off to. My goal is if you cum then I'm sure anyone that goes to your site will too. I hope it's exciting cause I tried to be honest and accurate too. Let me know what you think and if it got the job done, LOL. Heather ************************ As a Sex Therapist I highly recommend couples to explore their fantasies and be open to new things. Most fantasies are not logical or good for "love making" even though lots of fantasies can lead to some very romantic nights. Lots of fantasies come from porn because they look exciting and normally come with a great visual of the experience. A popular thing from porn that gives most men a fantasy is ANAL SEX. Anal sex serves no real purpose and the female body is not made to give her pleasure by taking it up the ass. If you're not in the a good frame of mind you won't enjoy it and for most the goal should be getting it into your ass without hurting. My husband loves the idea of anal sex. Me not so much. The idea of something in my ass yuck. It just doesn't belong there. But as his wife it's a good idea from time to time to let him explore this fantasy. Sometimes you have to do things for the one you love and if that means bending over and taking it up the ass then that's what you must do. I make sure he knows this isn't something that's going to happen very often. For us it happens maybe, and I stress maybe, twice a year. Once on his b-day and the other for Christmas. Of course its still sex so before you have to take it in the ass you better make the best of it and get something for yourself. For this time I just lay back as he slowly took off my panties. I opened my legs and motioned towards my pussy. He knows what I want and moves in and gives it a lick from the top to the bottom of my slit and hitting my clit. My body shakes with pleasure right away as I begin to get moist. I crave feeling him inside me. Inside my pussy that is but I know it won't be there long so I better enjoy it while I can get it. He doesn't lick me very long and I wanted more. I push him back on the bed and I mount his face and he knows he isn't done yet. I move into a 69 and begin to suck his cock. He was a little hard but I can still feel him get stiffer and more excited in my mouth which excites me a lot. I don't want him to cum yet just get him very excited. He won't last as long in my ass and he will still get what he wants. Sneaky yes? I stop sucking and sit up a bit on my knees as I caress my breasts. I love being a woman right now I feel his tongue teasing my hole. I crawl forward on my hands and knees I look back and shake my pussy at him. He moves in behind me and I feel his hard cock on me. I feel it up and down my slit as he teases me. Oh god I want it. "Fuck me" I tell him. " I need it in me just for little bit at least" I tell him. He pushes forward as I feel hit my hole. Hold it that's my asshole. "STOP!!" I look back at him, "Other hole first dear." He smiles and grins with that "just joking" kind of look. I feel it sink right into me. Oh god it's so good. I fill right up and I think about how this is what my pussy is made for. This is where it feels right. I being to shake my hips and push back into each stroke. My breasts shake and I grab and hold them. I feel my orgasm starting to grow in me. "I'm cumming!" I tell him as I feel my pussy squeeze down as I cum. Oh god this feels good my whole body just lets go. I start to feel this warm feeling in my pussy. Oh damn, he came in me. Now I'll have to get him hard again and then he will last longer in my ass. Not what I wanted but at least I got off first. He pulls out and he shrinks back to normal size in seconds. "So we're done then?" I ask him. I know we're not but maybe he won't have the power to go again as we are getting older. He tells me we're just getting started and that I have to suck his cock and get it working again. I put it back in my mouth. I can taste myself on him. Never been a big fan of it but it's not horrible and I can handle it. He asks if I can taste my pussy. He knows I can and I keep sucking without answering him. He tells me that I love the taste of pussy and that we should try a threesome one day. That's another fantasy of his. I'm not ready for that one and not sure if I ever will be but that doesn't mean he won't tease me about it. He tells me to think of some pussy I see at my office, maybe two young girls eating each other out and how I want to join them. I keep sucking but I look up at him my eyes tell him that he better stop saying that stuff. He knows I don't like to think about work during sex. My job and our sex life shouldn't mix. He then suggests we ask my sister to join us in a threesome. I put the tips of my teeth on his shaft as he says sorry a lot. I take him out of my mouth and tell him not to bug me about such things when I got his dick in my mouth - it could be dangerous. Why he thinks it's funny to upset me during this I'm not sure. I open my side drawer and get out some lubrication. We almost never use this as I get very wet once I'm correctly touched so it's mostly just used for anal. We rub it in between my cheeks and right on my hole. Its very cold cream as he works it in and slowly fingers my ass a little. I get back on my hands and knees and he pushes his dick on my asshole. I tense up but remember that's not a good thing. Relax and just let it in. I feel it enter me very slow. He knows better than to go too fast If he hurts me too much and I'll end it. It takes a few moments but it finally gets into my ass. I'm biting my bottom lip to try to relax. He starts fucking my ass and tells me how dirty of a girl I am. Oh god will it just end? I feel so full and it's not hurting but I'm not enjoying it either. "Fuck my ass... come on and cum in it," I try to excite and encourage him. He picks up speed which is good for him but bit more uncomfortable for me. I decide to reach back and rub my clit and feel how wet I still am. I get an idea and decide to enter my pussy with my fingers. Oh yes, that feels so much better. The mix of pleasure in my pussy and what I feel in my as evens out and I try to make my fingers match with his thrusts. He tells me if we were in a threesome some nice young chick could be eating me out and I wouldn't have to do that myself. "One more time and I'm ending this. Cum in my ass and get this over with!" I don't really like the idea of cum in my ass but I hate it on my skin and figure this is better than that. I feel my own orgasm start to rise again and I move with his thrusts.. He gives one more hard push into my ass and I cry out loud, "Oh my god my ass! You're cumming in it!" I rub my clit really fast and catch up and cum again myself. I move away from him feeling it exit my ass and I fall to the bed to catch my breath. A few moments go back and I feel him lay beside me and kiss me on my cheek. He thanks me so much and tell me he is sorry for teasing me and that he just trying to add to the excitement. He tells me he loves me and then climbs under the covers and puts his head on his pillow. I still fill his cum inside me I decide I best clean up. I stand up, grab my robe and leave our room and walk down the hall towards the bathroom. As I near the bathroom door I hear something behind me. I turn and look to see my daughter. She must have been watching TV while on holiday from school and now trying to sneak back to bed. Our eyes meet then she points at my butt and pretends to do a silent laugh. Oh my god, she must have heard me cry out. How embarrassing. I figure we will discuss that later right now I had cum to get out of my ass and then get to bed. At the end of it all I felt good inside cause I know how much my husband enjoyed that even if it's not at the top of my list. ************************ It took a few more days but me and my daughter sat down and we had a talk. She told me she didn't mean to listen in but couldn't sleep then just happened to overhear as she passed by. This may or may not be true but I'll give her benefit of doubt for now. I told her the truth it's not something I wanted or even enjoyed that much is something I did for dad cause I love him and that she may choose to do the same for someone she loves in the future. As for my sister. No I have never had any kind of fantasy. My husband knows it bothers me and I think he gets off on making me a bit uncomfortable. Some kind of twisted dirty talk to him. So I don't think it has anything to do with my sister turning him on. There is no way I'd allow him to be with anyone else especially without me there and my sister is married herself so I wouldn't even ask such a crazy idea. If I ever gave into the threesome idea it be someone non-related that I could trust. But I have no plans to agree to such a thing anytime soon. ************************ Well another Christmas is done and another year getting my ass fucked. Still something I wish you would try willingly of course. Of course you will still hate it but it's more about who you're doing it for. I think someone understood that more than even myself this year. Hope you enjoy the read. Heather ************************ Last year one of the first entries I wrote for Kelly's site was about me giving my husband anal sex for Christmas. You can go back to read that first if you wish but the short of it is I do this only once or twice a year. Anal is not pleasurable for me or most women but I know he would enjoy it so I do it for it on a very rare occasion. Back then my then 11 year-old daughter Amanda had overheard me talking about taking it in the ass was way before we had considered anything incestuous as a family yet. I had to talk with her and explain why I did such a thing with her father and as she is smart girl who is quite mature for her age, she seemed to understand. Christmas Day, 2009 was about to end. I got into my robe, leaving just my bra and panties on underneath. I went to the bathroom and cleaned myself up a bit and put on some perfume to smell nice for my husband. As I stepped out of the bathroom there was my 12 year-old daughter in her new teddy bear pajamas all cute waiting for me. She looked so young and innocent. "Mom, are you and dad going to bed now?" she asked. Well, so much for the innocent part! "Yes, I'm on my way there now honey." "Are you and him going to do that thing you did last year?" Wow, what a memory I thought to myself. "Why do you ask dear?" I replied. "Well Mommy, I was hoping I could join you and him this year. I want to take it in my bum too," she told me matter-of-factly. Wow, I was shocked. My daughter didn't seem to enjoy vaginal sex all that much and now here she was asking me if she could take her father's dick in her ass. This was really quite unexpected. My first thought was that her pussy was so small compared to his dick that I couldn't even imagine him getting his cock into her tight little ass without hurting her. "Now honey, why would you want to do that? Mommy doesn't even like it. I only do it to make your daddy happy. It would hurt you a lot and you don't even enjoy it in your pussy where it belongs," I told her. She looked at me and bit her bottom lip a little. "Please Mommy, I know I won't like it but it's Christmas and I want to make daddy happy too. I'm a big girl now, you said so." Well how could I say no to that? She had me there. How could I say she was a big girl for having sex in her pussy but say no to her taking it on her ass? I slowly nodded my head yes and told her to go into the bathroom and clean up. When she came out I took her by the hand and led her towards my bedroom. She was shaking she was so scared. I looked down at her and asked, "Are you sure about this?" She just nodded her head yes and so I opened the door. There was my husband lying in bed. He seemed a bit shocked to see our daughter come in with me. I explained that Amanda wanted to do this with us and that since our son out for the night it would just be the three of us. Well needless to say he didn't complain one bit. He may have been her father but what man would refuse the chance for sex with a 12 year-old girl? My husband dropped his pants and shacked around his soft dick, motioning for one of us to suck it. I disrobed and took my bra off, shaking my boobs naughtily for him. I looked over and saw that my little daughter was already head to toe naked, moving into a 69 on top of her father. "Hang on honey, you're going way too fast there," I laughed. "Now get off your father. This is his night. He's just going to lay back and relax and maybe rub your tits a bit." Amanda begrudgingly got off his face and moved around between his legs. She didn't look too happy about taking things slow so I consoled her by saying I'd lick her a little while she sucked his dick. She got on her knees and eagerly put him in her mouth as he reached out and grabbed her little tits and rubbed them. They weren't very big yet but that didn't seem to bother either of them. "Oh yeah... that's it, suck daddy's dick. You're such a good little girl. I'm going to fill your mouth with cum," he told her. I lay under my daughter and looked up at her tiny slit, taking a couple licks at it, hearing her start to moan right away. "Don't cum yet daddy, what about my bum and mom's bum?" she asked him. "Don't worry. I've got enough energy to cum 3 times at least," he chuckled as she continued to suck his dick. It was pretty amazing to see a girl her age already so good at sucking dick. He was getting really hard now and I was getting her pretty wet. Amanda looked back at me, "Can I lick your pussy now mom?" "Now finish your father's dick or you'll get no desert," I teased her. She frowned but went right back to sucking away. It didn't take her much longer before he was filling our daughter's mouth with his cum - which she drank down like a pro. Opening her mouth to show it was all gone, she then turned right around and told him to fuck her ass. "You're still going way to fast honey. Slow down a little. He's going to fuck your pussy first." "Aw mom, do I have to?" she whined. I could tell she still wasn't all that thrilled about having something in her pussy but at the same time, she wanted to please her father so she got on all fours for him and waited impatiently. Her dad got in behind her and started to rub his hard dick up and down her tiny wet slit. He slowly started to enter her pussy and I watched with fascination as his penis vanished within our daughter. How it all gets in her I still haven't quite figured out but I have to say I love the sight of it. On the other hand, it also made me a bit more concerned about it eventually going in her butt. I slid back underneath her to watch my husband's dick go in and out of her tiny pussy. The view was just so amazing. A year ago I considered incest something that was wrong and so I never would have guessed that watching my husband up close as he fucked our daughter would turn me on so much. I knew she prefers to get licked during it so I was happy to help her out. This also has the advantage of leaving me open for her to lean down and give me a good licking myself. Who am I to complain if my daughter loved to lick my pussy? He started to fuck her harder and faster and she was moaning and breathing harder. She was going to cum and her lust was taking over. It was awesome to see an innocent 12 year-old girl turn into such a sexual creature. "Mommy I'm going to cum!" she cried out. Her little body started to shake as my husband gave one last hard push into her pussy, burying himself as deep as he could into his pre-teen daughter. I could sense he was trying to unload every drop of sperm he had into her young and, thank god, as yet unfertile womb. He pulled out of her when he had finished, lying back on the bed panting. "Hope you're not all out of energy. You haven't even had your gift yet," I teased him. "Oh I've got lot more left in me. Here baby, taste the incest all over my cock," as he pointed at his half-erect penis. First I opened my drawer and got out the lube. Then I got on my hands and knees and took my husband in my mouth. I could taste Amada's pussy all over it and it was so good. I passed my daughter the jar of lube and told her I needed her to start rubbing that into my asshole - and to use a lot! Amanda slid under me then, which was odd as I wasn't accustomed to being the one on top between us. She started licking my pussy again which felt so good but I had to remind her that I needed that lube on me. She took a whole clump of it with her fingers and started to rub it between my ass checks. I told her to focus on the hole as that's where I needed it most. She started to finger my asshole a little but I don't think she really liked it all that much. But then again, neither did I. This was for my husband. After a little while my husband was back at full strength and I was ready to go. He got in behind me and pushed it right into my pussy. Oh god, that felt good! "Wrong hole," I reminded him, although I didn't mind a bit where he was now. "Don't worry; I'll get to your ass in a moment. You just saw Amanda get fucked in her pussy so I wanted to let you feel it yourself just for a moment," he chuckled. Sure enough, just as he got a good rhythm going on my pussy he pulled it out and started to work his way into my ass. Oh god did it hurt at first. Slowly he went in and it finally he got all the way in. It's really not that bad of a feeling once it's all in, just not the same as in my pussy. My pussy says, "Yes, that belongs here." My ass says, "What the hell is going on? Stuff goes out, not in," LOL. My daughter was still licking my pussy which actually made this experience a lot better as I wasn't just bent over waiting for it to end. My pussy was dripping wet and enjoying itself. God, she was getting better every time we did it! My husband reached around and played with my big tits as well. As I said, my daughter was getting to be a really good pussy licker. I felt so hot and was grinding myself into her mouth. My husband was really pounding into my ass now. For the first time I wasn't really bothered by it that much. Thanks to Amanda my pussy felt way too good to care. "Fuck her ass good dad!" my daughter called out to him, her voice muffled by my pussy. He wasn't going to cum fast though. He wanted to enjoy every moment inside my back hole. "Be a good girl and make your mommy cum," I begged my daughter. I was right on the edge and I wanted it bad. Then my daughter sucked my clit right into her mouth and off I went. My whole body started to shake and the purest pleasure was running through me. I calmed down enough just in time to feel my husband pick up the pace again and a warm feeling going into my ass as I was being pumped full with his cum. When he finished he pulled out of me and my ass hurt but it still felt full, this time with a gooey liquid. "Is it my turn now daddy?" Amanda asked him with an eager but nervous tone. "Oh yeah, don't worry, I'll fuck your cute little ass in a moment. First let me go wash my dick off," he told her. He left for the bathroom to clean it off just so anything nasty from back there didn't come in contact with her. Pussy is one thing but ass, well that's where you have to be careful. In the meantime I took the lube and started to rub it into my daughter's tiny asshole. I kept talking to her, asking her about if she liked what she saw and how it made her feel. She continued to insist that she do this even though I knew she was scared and didn't really desire this at all. By the time my husband got back his dick was hard again. Meanwhile I had worked a single finger into her ass. She was so tight and I had no doubt that it would be a painful experience for her. I took a few more moment rubbing lube into her and trying to work a second finger into her adorable little butt. Finally I just told him fuck her slowly. I warned her again this was going to hurt like hell and that this was her last chance to change her mind. I assured her that no one would be upset if she did but she said again she wanted to do this for him. I shrugged my shoulders and motioned for him to go ahead and have at her. Again I moved under her and started to suck on her clit, hoping it would do the same for her as it did for me. I watched as the tip of her father's dick entered my daughter's asshole and cringed as she screamed out... "OH MY GOD!" she yelled out loudly. She was finally realizing how tight she was back there as her father's dick stretched out a hole that isn't made to stretch out. "Amanda... are you ok?" I asked her. "Don't worry about me mommy. Daddy fuck it. Deeper daddy. Let's do this," she told him, sounding so sexy it made me almost forget she was only twelve years old! Without even him double-checking with her he just started to sink it into her deeper. I told him that was deep enough when it was half in and for him to just fuck it now. I could see the skin stretching and was worried it would tear and bleed. I put her clit back in my mouth so she could think of something pleasant as he picked up steam, going in and out of her ass. I could hear her breathing hard but she was also crying softly. She was trying so hard to please her father that it almost made want to cry as well. "I'm so bad, fuck my ass dad!" she encouraged him, putting his pleasure ahead of hers. Dirty talk was something she had picked up and really liked it because it let her have the chance to swear and it was exciting for her. "Cum in my bum daddy!" she told him while crying but half laughing as she realized what she said just before had rhymed. He was fucking her ass really hard and fast, way faster than he had done mine. I think he was trying to cum but he had already done so three times already and it was taking a bit longer this time, even with the excitement of fucking such a young girl in the ass. I sucked harder on her clit and flicked it around with my tongue. I'd never tasted another pussy before hers and I loved to taste her. She cried out again. I couldn't tell if this time it was from pleasure or pain - maybe both. I could see a bit of red near her asshole now. I getting worried about her and almost thought about making him stop when he let out a moan and let out his load into her ass. "Pull out as soon as the last drop is out of your dick," I told him. He pulled right out and lay back on the bed. I told him us girls were going to go take a shower. I took my daughter by the hand and led her to the bathroom. "Are you ok dear? Let me see your bottom," I said as I bent her over. There was some blood and it a bit tender. "I'm ok mommy. You told me that I'm a big girl now and that I need to get use to having my pussy fucked. Well at Christmas my ass will get it too, ok? I want to do that for him just like you do," she explained. "Ok then, let's get in the shower and clean off. Then I'll put some cream on your sore bum and we can go rest up," I told her and then kissed her on the forehead. I was so proud of my daughter! Chapter 4 - A Birthday Wakeup Call ================================= This is over a month late and it's not long cause well honestly it didn't last long either... Heather ******************* I love waking up on my birthday. Each year my husband is there to greet me with a massage or sucking on my nipples or sometimes I'm already being fucked hard as I wake up. Waking up and being in the middle of being fucked is just a great way to wake up - for me at least. This year as I woke up I was still very sleepy but I could feel how wet my pussy was. I just kept my eyes closed and relaxed and enjoyed the tongue running up and down my slit. My shirt was open and I could feel my breasts exposed to the cold air. I rubbed them some to warm up and it felt nice. Nipples were rock hard and a little wet. He must have been sucking on them before I woke I thought to myself. Oh my god was I getting wet now my breathing had increased and I let out a moan. I started to hump back at the tongue hitting my clit. "Eat my pussy. Make that pussy cum!" I screamed out. I was about to cum already and my husband hadn't even fucked me yet. Normally he would want to get his dick in there first. "Oh my god I'm cumming!" I yelled out. My whole body shook as my orgasm came over me. I felt so relaxed as my left nipple was taken into the mouth and sucked on. Then the right nipple. I felt him between my legs too starting to penetrate me. What was going on? I open my eyes to see my husband and daughter sucking my nipples and my son's dick just making its way inside me. I motioned for Amanda to get on top of me so I could return the favor. "No mom, this is all for you today," she told me. I started to push back at Mark's dick and it wasn't long before my second orgasm was upon me. I used all my muscles to squeeze my son within me feeling all his cum fill me up. After he came in me, Mark pulled his dick out of my cum-filled pussy and came right over to take my husband's spot sucking my nipple. My husband then wrapped my legs around him and he ploughed his hard cock into me hard and fast. "Get on top of me now. I not letting you be the only one not to cum," I told Amanda. "Fuck her hard dad," his daughter told him, "Pussy's are for fucking and she needs it good." Amanda was really into the dirty talk since she found out she was allowed to curse as long as it was during sex. My tongue just lapped at my daughter's little clit getting her wet. I knew my husband had to get to work so he was just going to cum and get going so I had to put all my focus on her clit and make her cum fast. Besides I was just so overwhelmed that my third orgasm was not far behind. My husband pushed himself into me one more time and I felt my pussy being flooded with his cum. I stuck my tongue right into Amanda's hole and my daughter cried out that she loved her pussy. By the time I had started to calm down my son was gone. My husband had pants on and was almost out the door. Wham bam thank you Mam it seems - but can I complain? "Hope you had a good cum mommy," Amanda said. "Oh I sure did thank you all 3 of you," I told them. Now THAT is what I call a good start to your birthday. Chapter 5 - New Year's Eve Sons ============================== Hi, I'm not sure how to describe New Year's... it was crazy for sure! My whole family went up to the cabins for the skiing, sledding, camp fires, fireworks and such but my hubby and daughter were not involved this time. They were off skiing somewhere and didn't get back for hours - or so that's what they said they were doing. There was another woman I met there. Her son was playing with my son outside and she started talking to me. At first we didn't talk about much, just about how the hot chocolate was... how bored we were there ... small talk and stuff. Then she asked what I did for a living and well things went from there. I've really got to stop telling people what I do for a living. They open up to me too much once they find out I am s sex therapist. It's like, "You're a dr... you deal with sex. well... here are all my fantasies and desires." In this case, once she knew my profession she started to admit all her fantasies and such. Eventually she told me how she had the hots for young boys. She claimed that she would never act on those feelings but she then remarked about how cute the boy outside the window was and how she would love to have a piece of him. What she didn't know was that boy was Mark, my son. She told me how she had a son that looked to be about the same age - fifteen in her case which was also the same age as Mark. At first I just started to tell her all the right things.. that fantasies are fine and thinking about such things was not wrong but how acting on it could be and so forth. Still, she kept going on and on. I realized I wasn't at the office and I wasn't being paid for this so my mind slipped away from doctor mode and into "how can I get something out of this?" mode. I was more interested in pushing her buttons a little. I was thinking about experimenting to see what she would do if I gave her the chance. So I asked her if she had the chance to screw that cute boy outside the window and no one would know but me, then would she let it happen? She said yes and that's all I needed to hear! I told her I could make it happen if she just trusted me. At first she thought I was teasing her but then she realized that I was dead serious. What she didn't know was that I knew it wouldn't be hard to talk my horny son into it but I didn't want her to know I was already having sex with my son beforehand. She said I was a professional so she would do anything I said and that she trusted me. Well that was a big mistake giving anyone that much power, especially me. I told her to come back to our cabin later. Then I warned her that a boy like that might be shy if I asked directly about sex and that it might even scare him off. I told her that my idea was that if he was to catch me and her fooling around a little then he get aroused and that any male will do about anything if is properly aroused. She wasn't too sure at first and said that she wasn't a lesbian and had never been with another woman. I told her that I wasn't either but that seeing two women together turns any male on at any age so if he was to walk in and see us together then it would be an easy transition to get him with her. So she finally agreed to my plan, if reluctantly. It was the girl-girl sex that seemed to bother her the most but I figured I would got a bit of fun for myself and then watch my son take over. That is, if she made it that far. I always assume people might not want things as bad as the price they might have to pay for it. The whole time I just kept telling myself I was just pushing her buttons and when it comes right down to it she won't do it. Maybe I was trying to find someone who won't go that far for their fantasy just cause I pushed so hard for mine and I changed a lot because of it. So now I am pushing this woman. She wasn't resisting all that much but she was on guard. Maybe more of not believing me totally but thought it worth the risk. So I told me son to just to come walking on into our cabin in about 30 minutes and then he would get to have some fun! He knew what I meant right away. It's been a while since he last fucked me and I knew he had to be horny. I have to say I missed him fucking me just as much if not more. I sort of forgot about her son though and I certainly didn't expect my son to bring him along. Wasn't happy about that since it wasn't me he was going to be with and we are not really telling people about what we do yet...but it worked out ok. Once in my cabin we started with a kiss but we both felt really uncomfortable with that. It's funny how a kiss can be more awkward than sex itself. So kisses stayed to her neck which she liked and then I stopped and put her hand on my breast and let her knew it was ok... and I did same with hers and just tried to build it slowly with her. I had to undress her as she was too nervous to make any move herself. I didn't really like it actually as it felt like I had to do too much to take care of her. I think I just want someone who would rather be with someone who knows what they doing already. But I knew it was necessary for the situation so I didn't let it bother me. We sort of undressed together, first me then her, one bit at a time, My top first then her top.. then my bottoms then her bottoms. My son looked in right on schedule about a half hour later. He just came right on in and stood there and watched like I told him to. I was quite surprised to see that her son was next to him. Well, her son was also shocked and he just stood with mouth hanging wide open he tried to back out but my son grabbed his arm and held him in place to watch. At the time I was sitting on her face so she had no idea either son was there. It felt pretty wild to have them watching us, even more excited knowing she didn't know yet. At the time I don't think her son knew that I was Mark's mom. By the time it was over he did but I am unsure if it was before or after we had sex. I have to admit I put on a bit of a show for the boys. I really ground my pussy into her face and told her to eat me good. I said that she was a natural pussy eater and she should do more of it. Then I pointed to her son to move to the base of his mom's feet and pointed at my boy to move up by my feet and gave them the stop sign, to just having them hold there. She now noticed my son and got nervous and tried to push me off of her. Thank god I picked the top and was able to hold her down. I told her it was time and then told my son to drop his pants. I stayed on top of her with my pussy covering her face and told him to put it in her mouth. I didn't want to move or she would see her son and get even more scared. My son was more than ready to put his dick in her mouth and she didn't fight it at all either. She put the whole thing in her mouth and loved it. She even stopped for a few moments to take another lick at me... too few but still I didn't expect it. I was just trying to hold her down and the licks were a bonus. I can't say I wasn't a little jealous seeing my son's dick in her mouth but I was happy for him. Then I leaned over and rubbed her pussy before giving the young boy there the shhhh sign and started to undo his pants. I kept holding up the shhh as they dropped to his knees. With his pants off I put him in my mouth. I wasn't going to tell him to fuck his mom right away as that would be jumping the gun a lot. She didn't even know he was there yet. He was just a little boy but yes, I enjoyed it. I felt sorry for him to be left out of the action. They both came in our mouths. One good thing about boys at that age, they didn't deflate for a moment. I said I had her nice and wet would she like to feel a little dick inside her. Trust me, both of us were horny as hell by then. I wanted to cum so bad. I kept wishing my son was in me so I told the boys to rub their dicks on the pussy lips. She didn't see her son until after the boys had their first cum. She saw my son start to rub it on me and got confused then she felt on her own body and began to panic again asking who was there and that this isn't what she agreed to etc.. She didn't pull away but then I wasn't really letting her. She wasn't too strong. She started to panic and to tell me this would be rape... I said she wanted to be fucked by a young boy and I didn't lie. she was about to get it, just it would be her son and not mine. Then I told her son to speak up and tell jos mother who he was. She really freaked out when he spoke up and that was the closest she got to pushing me off but I pinned her back down without too much trouble. She was begging me to stop and that she didn't want incest, what if she got pregnant, all that stuff. I told her she wanted a young boy.. and she has a young son sp who better to fuck? I told her tha all those fantasies she had described to me were just a way of not admitting the real young boy she wanted was her own son. All this talk and I so wanted my son in me so I told her son to put it in his mother and she screamed and kicked and told him not to. I looked right into his confused face and said, "Are you going to listen to your mom or the woman who just sucked your dick and made you cum?" He didn't say anything and pushed in as deep ito his mother as he could. The fact that he listened to me over his mother was the real power trip for me at least. As bad as I wanted him, my son didn't fuck me right away. It seemed that he wasn't to sure if he should with me right over her face but I finally told him that he might as well go ahead and do me. The boys kept fucking us and it was really nice. She soon stopped crying and begging for him to stop. In fact she was begging for him to do it more by the time he came in her. One thing I regret and that was we didn't swap sons. She was pretty much out of it after he came in her so I let them be to let it sink in. I did get her to cum maybe more from my rubbing and licking of her clit. Afterwards we didn't talk much after. She thanked me for the experience and then took her son and left. I think they left the whole camp cause I didn't see them at the fireworks later at midnight. I don't know what she did so far as telling her husband later on but those were first words out of my mouth when hubby climbed into bed... that I just fucked another woman and her son. He wasn't jealous but just said it's my rules and as per my rules if he gets a chance to even it up he is allowed to do so. I said if my rule is followed exactly then making it even would be him finding another male and his daughter to screw around with. He just grumbled that I have it too easy or something. Chapter 6 - Communication ======================== Ok Hello everyone. Your local Sex Therapist Heather here. Today I'd like to talk about the biggest and most common reason people come to see me. Most don't even realize it's their problem. That problem would be Communication. If couples would just tell each other what they want and desire I'd be out of business I'm sure. There are some things a person just won't do no matter what and I do encourage people to be open minded and at least try something once before saying they will never do such a thing ever or at least ever again. But even I can't say I'm willing to try anything once - I have my limits too, but this shouldn't stop you from talking to your partner about what you want just cause you fear they will say no. This should be someone you love and trust and therefore can tell them anything. When waiting for my husband to come home on some nights sometimes I find a picture or a porn movie I know he likes. I find a position or certain sex act that I desire and when he comes home I'll point to it and tell him do that to me NOW! I've never had to talk him into anything like that ever. Lots of woman come to see me cause they are not enjoying sex. We go through the same list of questions: Does it hurt? Are you aroused and lubricated? Is he going to fast or slow? Things of that nature. Just the other day I was speaking with a woman in my office we were about a hour into the conversation about her life and getting into her sexual habits. When we came to the question I should really stop asking cause its costing me money! I asked her, "So what do you desire in bed?" She responded with, "It would be nice to be eaten out before we have intercourse." I then naturally asked, "What is your husband's problem with giving you oral sex?" I was thinking he might not enjoy it much but sometimes we have to do things for our partner to please them. Give and take is what sex is. Giving pleasure to someone is half the fun even if you don't enjoy the act that much. What she said shouldn't have surprised me. She says, "I'm not sure what his problem is. I've never asked." "You never asked what the problem is or you never asked for oral sex from him before?" I asked. "I've never asked him to give me oral before," she responds. I just looked at her with a smirk on my face hoping she would take a hint. After a few moments she just stood up and said, "Oh! Maybe I should ask him?" All I could do is nod my head. She paid my secretary and left. I haven't seen her again. When you're younger and first start having sex you have no idea what you want. Its time to explore and learn what your body craves and needs on a sexual level. The same thing over and over isn't good but most people have a certain something that will do it for them on most occasions. If you haven't found what that is keep looking, it's there! My husband and I don't need to say much anymore cause we have learned each other so well and most of the time just a look or moving our body in a certain way will clearly tell the other what we want. It hasn't always been that way. I learned early on in my life that I just don't seem to enjoy intercourse as much without a good oral tongue lashing first. Feeling his tongue run up and down my lips then gently hitting my clit to tease me gets me so wet and aroused. He is a bit different. He sometimes likes me to suck his dick, other times he will just spread my legs and shove it in. So he has to tell me what he is in the mood for on this occasion. Once he between my legs and I feel him slowly entering me, I can feel my body being filled up. I feel at one with him and I normally tell him this. Moans and panting is all good but saying it with words, how good it feels and if you want it faster or slower, is the way to go. Nothing gets people more excited than to hear how good of a job they're doing in making you feel good and hopefully he will respond in the same way. Speaking of moaning and panting... DON'T FAKE IT GIRLS. They won't learn anything if they think they're doing a good job. This is a very negative communication problem. If you're not enjoying it, try something else or find out why. But the best thing you can do is to be direct. Don't give hints. Tell them straight out what you want and how. I was just talking to Kelly about this the other night and thought it might be good to add here. The other night I was so horny just waiting for my husband to get home. I really wanted to be taken from behind doggie style. I didn't want to be made love to on this night, I wanted to be FUCKED!! So I went through some porn and found a scene of a woman taking it doggie style and just paused it there. I undressed and just played with my nipples and clit for a while just to get myself aroused and ready. As soon as he came in the door I pointed at the T.V I said, "DO THAT TO ME NOW!" I didn't have to ask twice. I got on my hands and knees and he was nude in a flash. I expected to feel his penis pushing at me right away but he even got his head under my legs and started to eat me out from below knowing that I just enjoy intercourse better after oral. On this night I just wanted it in me so bad. It was hard to say no to oral so I did let him lick away for a couple moments but finally I said to just push it in already. He got in behind me and decided to tease my pussy for a bit longer, just rubbing it up and down my wet lips. I couldn't take it anymore so I backed myself onto it letting it push fully into me. I really enjoy this position when I just want to get off. It feels so deep inside me and I feel like a woman. It's just very sexy for me. I am able to reach back and rub my clit as he fucks me too. Lots of woman don't like this position cause it makes them feel like a piece of meat and you don't look into your lovers eyes and can't kiss. As I said before, I didn't want to be made love to. I wanted to fuck and this made me feel like all I was for - to be fucked. That's what my pussy was made for so give it to me. It didn't take long and I started to cum and cum hard. I love to cum first cause I know the muscles in my vagina will squeeze him and make him cum almost right away. It's really the best way to have orgasms at same time I have found. That was it. I flipped over and we both caught our breath and kissed goodnight. I also knew that next time he would have his own ideas and I'll listen to them and love it because hearing him is the best way to please the one I love. Chapter 7 - Heather Chats With Dan ================================= From: Whale Revenge <whalesrevenge2009@gmail.com> To: Kelly Sent: Friday, September 18 Subject: Thoughts About Heather Hey Kelly, With respect to "Heather" look at the sequence between 11:24 and 11:40. It comes out that when "she" was corresponding with you it was clearly to learn how to write stories. Farrow's motivation starts out ridiculous (to learn how to write "professional papers") and then meanders back to just something about learning how to write naughty stories like it's a college course. Farrow's motivation for chatting with me becomes obvious at 11:48. She wants to chat about my daughters. I played hard to get (I figured if it was too easy then the role play would be obvious). I guess my "wife" will show up eventually. That's what Farrow wants. I doubt Farrow cares if its real, unless he can talk me out of some pictures, I bet. Has Farrow ever asked you for some? Here is our chat... (10:46:54 PM) Dan: Hey Heather, you out there? (10:47:20 PM) Heather: I am (10:47:43 PM) Dan: Cool. Sorry about the net problems. How's it working tonight? (10:48:08 PM) Heather: so far so good (10:48:37 PM) Dan: That's nice. Anyone interesting you giving advice to? (10:48:47 PM) Heather: no (10:49:32 PM) Dan: Oh. Well, maybe we can do something about that. We didn't get very far into what interested me about your stories. (10:49:51 PM) Heather: sure. I'd love to know (10:51:18 PM) Dan: Well, there are two really hot parts. The first is the scene where Kelly rides in like the cavalry to push your daughter into getting the night going after you melted down. What do you think brought her to take charge? (10:52:18 PM) Heather: I not sure... what makes that so hot? Just her being in charge is exciting? (10:53:25 PM) Dan: Yes. Come on, you got to agree. I mean you know what Kelly is capable of. But you FELT the full measure of the effect through your 12 year old daughter. What does that tell you about the power of encouragement? (10:54:18 PM) Heather: Kelly sure has that power and my daughter trusted her and I was in no condition to do anything about it. (10:54:35 PM) Dan: Well, it was what you wanted, wasn't it? (10:55:37 PM) Heather: not really. that's why I was so conflicted. Being with my own family was just away to get with the other family. So in the end was it worth it. I still not sure (10:56:38 PM) Dan: Do you mind if we delve into that a little more? I mean, you've been pretty honest about the conflict. And I've read that reasoning, but there's more, isn't there? (10:57:05 PM) Heather: no there isn't more. that's really all there was to it. (10:59:17 PM) Heather: you said there were two hot parts. I curious what was the 2nd? (10:59:33 PM) Dan: Well, I understand that the other mother insisted that it be a two family affair. And maybe she thought she's get a piece of your daughter (she didn't, if I recall correctly), but you ordered all the girls to lay down for the group sex to get going. Wasn't it more than just to get something else? I'm confused by the statement now but the behavior then. (11:01:14 PM) Dan: Yes, there is a second part. The group sex with the other family's 12 year old. You said that she was better prepared. That must have been something, watching your husband do your daughter, and then watching the other daughter take four men and boys. Wow wouldn't you say? (11:02:32 PM) Heather: no I just realized nothing was going to get started someone had to take charge. So I thought us getting eaten out by the guys was good enough for me. (11:03:43 PM) Heather: she didn't take 4 men. I did. the other 12yr old took her dad and my husband a little. (11:04:35 PM) Dan: Well, I agree with the logic, but the other mother was a take charge woman too. Didn't you really WANT your husband inside of your daughter? I mean, I'm just curious, but the answer goes to the heart of the "hotness." And I stand corrected about the other 12 year old. Still, that was brave of her. (11:05:42 PM) Heather: I didn't want anything. And I didn't realize the other mother was a take charge kind of person. I let her take over when she did speak up. (11:06:26 PM) Dan: Now, Heather, how could you not want anything? You were key to negotiating the whole deal. Why the retreat? (11:06:56 PM) Heather: I wanted them... I wanted the other mom and her husband... and I finally got that. (11:07:57 PM) Dan: But why THEM? I've been to some places in this country. Places where you stand in a bar and a husband wife team walks up to you and wants to complete a threesome. You don't need to fuck your kids to get that! (11:09:13 PM) Heather: It just seemed the good chance. I don't live in any places like that. I live in a small area where if I tried something like that everyone would know by the end of the day. (11:10:01 PM) Dan: But you're a professional. Professional's have the ability to travel, especially on vacation, but more often because it's part of the job. Isn't that true for you too? (11:10:27 PM) Heather: no I don't go very far. I work all the time. This was our first vacation in years. (11:11:09 PM) Dan: Oh, well, that's too bad. So, any interesting cases? You've got a better job than an Oby/Gyn, don't you? (11:11:35 PM) Heather: It depends. Most news I get is bad news... abuse rape etc. Its not all exciting (11:12:13 PM) Dan: That is sad, I agree. How do you handle the emotional stress? How do you keep it positive? (11:13:12 PM) Heather: I have to for them. If I negative then they sure wont get back to normal. I happy thru my husband. I try not to bring my work home. When I leave the office I leave there problems there. (11:14:15 PM) Dan: So, how do you help a rape victim? What kinds of problems do you address? And how do you address them? How often are you successful? (11:15:20 PM) Heather: they have to want to be helped... its a lot of talking about it. When they finally get over it and stop blaming themselves they get start to get back into sexuality slowly. (11:16:17 PM) Dan: Do you limit yourself to talking? I noticed in one chat that you have some happy couples who want to show you their progress. What's with that? (11:16:53 PM) Heather: some do yes. some feel they need my approval that all is ok. Lift there confidence.. (11:17:19 PM) Dan: Any coaching? I mean, this is rich! (11:18:14 PM) Heather: they might ask what they can do to make things better... I might suggest talking to them a bit more while doing it... but If I walk them thru it they won't be able to do it alone (11:18:55 PM) Dan: Well, I must be in the wrong profession. But that's my mistake. How do you get clients? (11:19:23 PM) Heather: they come to me. I have an office. Other doctors might refer them to me (11:19:58 PM) Dan: What kind of doctors. I mean, I realize it's serious business, but I'm just curious. (11:21:12 PM) Heather: medical doctors (11:21:22 PM) Heather: after a rape or something they been abused (11:22:14 PM) Dan: So, ok. Tell me, why did you want your stories posted? That did have me curious. (11:23:17 PM) Heather: I not sure really. Kelly talked me into it really. No one I really know will know me so I fine with it (11:24:41 PM) Dan: I know you say you don't know, but don't you want people to be sexually turned on by them? I mean, you seem to be interested in what I think is hot. Don't YOU think there is something sexually exciting about the whole business? (11:26:55 PM) Heather: More of just to be a good writer...Right now I writing what happing to me but I wouldn't mind writing more on sexuality in future. (11:27:42 PM) Dan: That's cool. I feel the same way. What would you like to write about? Maybe we can help each other. (11:28:23 PM) Heather: Just writing professional papers either.. on studying sexuality even. (11:30:29 PM) Dan: Professional papers? I realize you say you are in clinical practice, but don't you already have experience at that? And a good college education is probably a must to get where you've gotten. Didn't that involve a lot of writing? I had to write my ass off, and the bastards weren't going to let me out until I passed a university mandated writing exam. Frankly, Kelly's forum is not what I would expect for professional postings. (11:35:53 PM) Dan: Hey, you still there? (11:37:08 PM) Heather: Its not a professional posting. Its more of just a way for me to learn to write and see if what I have to say anyone reads. etc (11:38:50 PM) Dan: Ok. I chatted with Kelly today (first time!). She told me that she would like to continue to help. So, is there anything we can conjure up together? Fantasy? Another real family event you see coming? (11:39:35 PM) Heather: help in what way? (11:40:02 PM) Dan: Talk about some plots, or maybe discuss something real. (11:40:37 PM) Heather: well I have no plans at moment (11:40:58 PM) Dan: Oh. No plans for family events, I guess? (11:41:12 PM) Heather: yes (11:41:55 PM) Dan: Do you have any fantasy's that come to you that you can relate? (11:44:20 PM) Heather: no mine was trying group sex and I did that. Not sure what I'd like to experience next (11:44:57 PM) Dan: Why wouldn't you want to do it again? Was it not what you thought it would be? (11:46:14 PM) Heather: I wouldn't mind it again just have to be a better judge of who with. like I said it won't happen in this town. So not sure when chance will come again (11:47:31 PM) Dan: You suggested in your IM late last night that you'd like to chat with my wife. What about? (11:48:36 PM) Heather: just about your daughters.. helping them. I not sure what your goal is with there sexuality but I wouldn't mind being a guide for them if they try to bond in a way (11:49:46 PM) Dan: Well, you know their age. And all four are very close. But their idea of bonding is to lay around covered in dogs and watch TV. How would you get them somewhere else? (11:50:32 PM) Heather: I mean bonding in a sexually way. Helping them thru masturbation etc. A little girl talk. Its up to your wife of course. (11:51:34 PM) Dan: Do you mind me asking what's the point? I mean, is that kind of bonding necessary, or just something you want to explore? (11:52:32 PM) Heather: its not.. it can be good for the girls to learn things about there body.. be able to trust there mom on that level. I just offering to help if this was a direction you had discussed with your wife at all (11:53:39 PM) Dan: No, that subject never came up. We did talk about how to handle the natural transition to sexually active women. We aren't trying to rush that, just be ready and to help with information and most of all, openness. (11:54:17 PM) Heather: well ask her.. that would be an option for your wife to guide them along up to you and her (11:54:48 PM) Dan: How do I ask her? I mean, what pretext do I have for asking about that? (11:55:47 PM) Heather: Just when your discussing the topic of your girls sexuality and how your going to handle that. If she wants my help in guiding them along I'll be happy to do so (11:57:17 PM) Dan: Well, that's thoughtful. How do I show her your credentials? Let's say that your stories are not what many woman would look to for a reference. (11:59:23 PM) Heather: well I unsure how to do that online. If she doesn't trust me that's fine too. But if she ok with talking to me I'll help... Its up to you and her of course (12:01:22 AM) Dan: Well, ok. I expect you realize it might take a little while before I can bring her up to speed about this opportunity. She doesn't chat (yet), so it won't be overnight. But, I might surprise myself. I've been making progress on other fronts. And I'm committed to tackling old inhibitions. You'll just have to be patient with me. (12:02:25 AM) Heather: I know but anytime she wants to talk I here. your girls are at good ages to learn and a time they will still talk to mom and gain her trust for the long term too. (12:03:43 AM) Dan: Yes, they certainly trust her. And want to learn, but kind of on an as needed basis. They get weirded out if it comes out of the blue. If I introduced her to you, what would you say? (12:05:12 AM) Heather: I not sure.. just say hello tell her what I do... see if she ok with talking about her body and sexuality... if she ok talking about her kids. If she uncomfortable the convo wont go very far I'm sure. (12:05:53 AM) Dan: Well that's true. But there's got to be some motivation for talking at all. I mean, if it ain't broke, what needs fixing? (12:07:00 AM) Heather: no motivation other than helping if its wanted... if she doesn't want the help or to try helping guide the girls on a sexual level then we don't need to talk. Its her choice (12:08:36 AM) Dan: Ok. I guess, that sounds like a broader topic than just masturbating together. I can see where that might start usefully, and then it can take on a life of its own and go where it needs or wants to go. (12:10:05 AM) Heather: she might be to shy to do that with the girls. but comparing and seeing being able to talk about it all very common but her choice totally (12:11:44 AM) Dan: Is it common? I do recall sitting around a room doing truth and dare with teenage girls and it was mostly about comparisons. But what evidence is there that it is common to go "all the way" with the action? (12:14:04 AM) Heather: girls lie a lot especially about sex. but in studies and surveys done its very common to hear they normally open up to someone a friend a sister a mom... (12:15:59 AM) Dan: Do you need to have someone show you? I mean, talking is something I can see everyone doing (I did, and I ain't a girl). And, my wife and I roll our eyes at certain of our daughters associates that want to dwell on boys, in detail, more than others. But do you need to have someone show you how to masturbate and then to make it a group support thing? (12:18:44 AM) Heather: no it totally optional. But girls are sometimes afraid there the only one...or unsure how to do it. Or what other ways there are. This way its out in the open and there nothing to hide. Girls are open minded enough to handle it too. Most males wouldn't do this if there lives depended on it. (12:19:34 AM) Heather: I do need to get going. Its pretty late and I falling asleep. (12:19:59 AM) Dan: Interesting. Thanks for your time. I'm in the same boat. Gotta catch a plane tomorrow. See ya. (12:20:31 AM) Heather: goodnight (12:20:38 AM) Dan: Goodnight.Heather Farrow - Sex Therapist