A Unique, Special Threesome:
Mom, Son and Mom's Boyfriend

After their most recent threesome -
She (Tracy) said: 
"It was fun for us... We had a great time."  "I was lying on my back with my legs spread wide and looking at Paul holding my son's 6-inch cock toward my pussy.  It was a big turn-on!  I felt like they were then both accepting me, and accepting each other.  I don't know how to describe it, but it was a moment to remember."   "After a few minutes of Paul's pushing on David's ass, my son came HARD inside me, both of us panting and sweating.  I could feel his cum inside me.  There was a lot of his cum inside me!  I think that was his biggest orgasm EVER."  "David lay there on top of me... I think he was enjoying his own orgasm."  "Paul and David gave me a DP (double-penetration) that was absolutely mind-shattering.  It was one of those DP experieinces I will always remember. "

Her son David said:  
"The weekend I spent with my mom and Paul was indescribible."  "I didn't want to cum too soon, so I just moved slowly and kept telling myself to prolong my climax.  I really enjoy fucking slowly and savoring those feelings inside of my mom."  "When I was fucking my mom that day, I kept saying to myself how lucky I was, being able to fuck a mature woman who is also a porn star, and who is my mom.  How many guys my age have the luck that I have?  I feel like I am the luckiest man on this planet!" 

Her boyfriend Paul said: 
"It was the ultimate feeling when David and I DPed Tracy, me on the bottom, and David behind or on top of Tracy, sandwiching her."  "Knowing that my cock was inside a woman whose son is also inside her was almost too much for me to handle.  I loved it when both Tracy and David were moaning together."  "It is just an incredible feeling.  I also enjoy when I just lay next to them and watched them screwing slowly with David on top of Tracy in the missionary position.  I would hold her legs and kiss her toes sometimes.  I also cuddled and made small chit-chat with her while David was inside her.  I love those quiet and intimate moments."

The following true story is based on a compilation and editing of letters from and to Tracy, a 40-year-old single mom, her boyfriend Paul, age 42, and her 18-year-old (3 months shy of his 19th birthday when this correspondence began) son David.  The correspondence started with a letter from Tracy on January 8, 2004 and continues through March, 2004.

(from Tracy)
Hi, Joan.  

My name is Tracy. I am a former porn star.  I have a son who is 18 now.  After reading your stories about 3-somes, I was feeling very hot and horny.

I am a single mom. However, I have a boyfriend who is my primary sex partner.  He and I frequently visit swinger clubs.  I have had many unforgetable sexual experience both with my current partner and my son.

I am not ashamed of what has happened. Where better a place for a son to learn than from an experienced mother.

I would love to share my story with you about how my partner and my son started our first 3-some. 

-Tracy-

1/14/2004 
From son David...
Hi, Joan, 

My mom called me on the phone and sent me the e-mail you sent to her. 
 
Allow me to introduce myself.  My name is David.  I am a freshmen in college.  I had my first sexual encounter with my mom at 15.  She was my first.  You can say she took my virginity (lol).  I was happy to have it taken.  No regrets at all.  Only JOY!

My mother has been very supportive in my education.  I guess it is because of her past experience.  She wants me to be able to do something she couldn't do when she was younger.
 
We have always had a close relationship.  While I was growing up, we talked about everything.  She answered any doubts and questions I had.  Yes, I did ask a lot of sexual questions when I hit puberty.  I think I did that on purpose. 

I think my mom dressed very revealingly...  on purpose... in our home.  So, ever since I was 10, I started fantasizing about her in a rather non-motherly way.  Yes, the way she dressed did have a big impact on me.  Sometimes, I would deliberately try to brush against her or touch her, or even kiss her longer than most moms/sons should. 

I think my mom was quite aware of my feeling when I was age 10.  I started jerking off when I was that age.  I think she was waiting for me to be more grown up before initiating me in her bed.  When I was 15, my mom caught me watching her porn movies.  She didn't scold me.  She just told me it was OK.  The rest is history.
 
About how mom and Paul and me got together, that's another BIG story to tell.  It started shortly after my first time with mom.  I will share more next time.
 
David

1/14/04
(from Tracy)
Dear Joan:

Well, Joan, in answer to your question, I did have some FMF experiences, but only a few, with my man.  We prefer couples or sometimes a single man.   
 
My son and I have a close relationship.  I have told him evrything about what I do for a living.  So, to make my story short, one evening I caught him watching one of my videos.  It showed me having sex with some guys.  After that, one thing led to another.  My son and I ended up in bed that night.
 
Joan, I am sure my son (David) can tell you more if you want.  He is a brilliant person who gets good grades in school.  I am very supportive of his education, because I did not have the chance to go to college, or to even finish high school.  He is in college now, screwing girls his own age. 

Last Christmas was David's first break from college.  He came home.  He and I and my lover screwed our brains out during that Christmas break.
 
David likes reading erotic stories.  Thinking back, I remember I found him reading some articles about incest before he and I started our 'affair.'  My parents still don't know the "true" relationship I have with my son.  They are square! 
 
Tracy-smiles

1/16/04
(from David)
Joan, 

I have to be careful while I am writing this to you.  I am living in a college dorm now, and I have a roommate.  We have a small room with the many personal belongings of two people in one place.  So I am writing you this when my roommate is asleep.
 
Ok, you asked how my mom and Paul and I had our first 3-some.  Let's start back at the beginning, so you'll know how 3-somes have been a major turn-on for me.
 
When I was about 10, I started noticing grils.  I was particularly paying attention to my mom, since she was the one female I would always see and be with.  Some of my friends had already watched adult video before.  I think they found their parents' adult videos poorly hidden somewhere.

We watched many kinds of porn together.  Yes, some of them involved 3-somes.  Watching the moaning and the pleasure screams in the videos, I realized that I had heard such moans and screams from my mom's bedroom before, when she had invited some male friends over. 
 
To make the story short (my roommate might ask me to turn off my computer soon), I started to peek in at my mom whenever possible.  I watched her when she was just walking around the house in minimual clothing, and when she was with Paul (mom's long-term boyfriend) in the bedroom when the door was not completely closed. 

Yes, happily, my mom always wore clothes that exposed some part of her "adult-rated" body.  She has very big breasts and nice legs.  As I mentioned before, I started masturbating when I was that age.  I still remember that the first time I jerked off I was thinking about mom's legs and breasts.  I am not sure if other 9-10-year-old boys start jerking of at that age... or not... but I sure did. 
 
I think that from early on my mom know I was jerking off.  I saw her checking my underwear a few times when she was cleaning them.  Anyway, who cares.  Ever since I was little, she always 'flirted' with me with kisses and touches, and of course by flashing me while wearing her sexy clothes or lingerie.  I have a feeling that she knew I was jerking off with her in mind.

Back to the subject.  Paul was a funny guy who always tried to make me laugh.  We became like brothers.  So one night while we were talking alone, we started joking about having a 3-some with my mom.  That was after the time when mom caught me jerking off while watching her videos.  Paul and I got into our thoughts about having sex with mom... together... and that's how it started.
 
David

1/22/04  
(from Tracy)
Joan -

Yes, my son and I enjoy each other... sexually.   We still do (together with Paul, sometimes), but I want to maintain a certain authority over my son.  I hope you can understand me... as a mother... I want my son to focus on his studies.

Let me tell you about the threesomes Paul, David and I have enjoyed together.  Our first experience was when David was 15, when I caught him watching one of my videos.  

I had already had sex with someone about his age, before my son.  That boy was 16 at the time.  I was about twice his age.  He was better in bed than I thought he would be.  Although he came fast, he was very passionate, and willing to let me "direct around."  I had great fun with him.  

-Tracy-

(from Tracy)
Hi, Joan, 

David called a couple of days ago.  We both agree that he can write to you about our relationship, as long as he is not forgetting his studies.  

You asked how Paul and David and I started our 3-somes.  Hmmm....I think I have told you already that I caught him watching one of my videos one day.  He was naked, and jerking off his cock.  So one thing led to another.  We had sex.  Later on, we evolved into 3-somes with Paul.  But before that first time with my son, Paul had been encouraging me to expose more of myself to my son by dressing more sexily in the house. 

What do I enjoy most about our 3-somes?  Hmmm...... I think the taboo of having sex with my son.  Paul and David likes to take turns fucking me.  With Paul, it is guilt-free fucking.  But with my son, David, it is exciting, coupled with some guilt (still to this day).  Joan, I was brought up as a Catholic girl in Texas.  My parents are very religious.  

Joan, I still feel kind of guilty (or bad) having sex with David.  So I still won't let him cum inside me, or cum on my face.  I think that if I let David cum on my face, he would lose his respect for me as his mother.  I also think part of me, being brought up as a Catholic girl, made me especially conscious of my unusal relationship with my son.

David did cum inside me one time.  It was on his 16th birthday, after many requests from him and Paul.  It was the only time I let him do that.  That night Paul had his first "sloppy-seconds" with me.  Paul came VERY hard that night.  He told me it turned him on VERY much.  

Anyway, both David and Paul respected my wishes, and have not try to push my limits.  But Joan, some part of me has wanted to let my son do what he wanted, and I have occasionally let my guard down.  

When David was about 8 or 9, I found him under my bed with his pants down, I had been laying on my bed, and I was masturbating that day.  I don't know how many times he had been hiding under my bed before.  I caught him because I heard a noise under the bed.  I scolded him very hard that day.  I think from that day on, I knew he was sexually interested in me.  I still feel quite bad about having yelled and scolded him.  I think I made him feel really bad.  

So because of this, I wanted to make it up to David on his 16th borthday.  David is a good boy, and does well in college.  I encourage him a lot to study hard. 

The first time David and I had sex we were in his bed.  What did we do that first time?  Well, since I was (and still sometimes am... in a supporting role) an adult porn video actress, I pretty much did most of the things that I did in my videos.  

I don't remember many details about our follw-up sessions.  It has been some years now since he was 15.  But I think David and I pretty much accepted the fact that we can have sex even though he is my son.  Paul was VERY supportive in introducing David into my bed.  The night of David's 16th birthday, Paul was really excited when he was able to screw me after David came inside me. 
  
Yes, I have enjoyed many 3-somes with guys other than my son.  In some of my videos, I have experienced some enjoyable double-penetration sex, 2-on-1 sex, and sex with more than 2 men at the same time.
 
David and I have not had many opportunities to be together in bed since he started college.  But whenever there's a holiday, he comes home for me.  And Paul is always there when David is home.  (I wonder why Paul's schedule is so flexible with David's.)
 
I think boys at age 9 or 10 discover the pleasure of masturbating, and start noticing female bodies.  After I scolded him that time, he wouldn't talk to me for a week.  He is the only son I have.  Being a porn star, I got lonely sometimes as a single mom.  So the only thing that kept me happy and kept me sane was my son.  Being brought up in a strict and religious family, I was raised to think of sex as a dirty thing.  I guess that's why I yelled at my son that time. 

Anyway, to make it up to him, I decided to dress "more exposed" in the house, around David, hoping he would notice me again and talk to me again.  It worked.  We ened up talking a lot, and one night, I let David sleep with me in my bed (no sex, just sleep and some cuddling).  Yes, he did try a couple times to dry hump me from behind.  Sometimes I let him until he stopped.  Sometimes I stopped him with a kiss.  I didn't want to upset or embarass him again.

He asked a lot of questions about what I do for a living, and asked me a lot of questions about sex.  Joan, I found out that after becoming more open with my son about sexuality, we developed a much better relationship as mother/son.  He ACTUALLY listened to me and did what I asked of him.  But after I met Paul and become stable with him, David and I stopped sleeping together.  I could see sometimes that David was jealous and angry at me.  At that point he didn't like Paul.

I met Paul through a friend of mine, a friend who is not in the porn business.  Paul is a man I can keep up with.  We have been together for about five years now, since David was 14.

I think that in Europe, especially in Germany and some other European countries, incest is not as big a deal as it is in the US.  Also, I have heard from some of the people I have worked with in the adult industry that there are some swingers who swing as families in swinger's clubs and organizations.  I was shocked at first. 

You asked if David enjoys eating me.  Well, I am not sure if he did early on.  I think he likes to put his cock into me as soon as he can.  But he has eaten me many times.  

Have Paul and David simultaneously double penetrated me? YES and NO.  For David's 16th birthday, YES.. Other than that time, I didn't want him to get everything he wanted from me. 

In the earliest part of my sex life, I considered anal sex to be an abnormal sex act.  But gradually I have grown to enjoy it.  I enjoy it much more now.  Oh, one funny thing about that DP with Paul and my son, Joan.  I find it amusing to this day.  That first time that we did DP, Paul came as soon as David put his cock into my ass.  We laughed at Paul after that.  We called him  "premature ejeculator". 

I think Paul has a fetish about watching me and David have sex.  He has confessed to me it is the biggest turn-on for him to watch us (mother and son) have sex, and to be able to participant himself.  Paul also told me that the first time he came inside me after David's cum was already inside me was the wildest thing he had ever done.  He said that knowing that he is fucking a woman's pussy with her son's cum inside is a real mind-blast for him.  That's why he came so hard that night.

One last thing, Joan.  I will take your advice to surprise David soon.  I will visit him (at his college town) with Paul.  I am sure Paul is excited about my plan.  

Tracy.

(from Tracy)
Dear Joan

I visited David last weekend in his college town.  We had two great nights that weekend.  Paul and I stayed in a motel with David.  We had great sex with David.  I surprised him by showing up in his dorm.  I will tell you soon what happened.

Joan, after the threesome and Paul and I left David's place, I had some concerns and worries.  But at the time, I was also very excited and sexually satisfied.  I hope you can give me more encouragement and advice.

I had stopped taking birth control pills because I feel they make me fat.  So during the night, I asked David to use condoms.  I didn't tell him exactly why, but I think he took it personally.  I know David and Paul have been asking me to let him cum inside me.  But I still don't think a mother should let her son cum inside her.  I still have that guilt in me with the kind of relationship I have with David.

But before the night was over, Paul and David did convince me to let David screw me without a condom.  I told him he must pull out when he came.  I was thinking doggie-style, because I didn't want to look at him as we fucked, because looking at his face constantly reminded me that he was my son.  David told me that he would very much like us to screw in the missionary position, because he likes to kiss me when he is scewing me. .I thought that was sweet, so I said OK.

Paul was there for me, whispering encouragement in my ears, and holding my hands while David was on top of me... thrusting slowly within me.  David did kiss me a lot.  Paul lay there and held my left hand.  He whispered some LOVING words to  me, to enhance my enjoyment.  Paul really knew what to say that night to make me feel good about myself.

Anyway, as David's thrusts became more frantic, I almost came.  I was ACTUALLY considering letting him cum inside me... because it felt so good.  I was waiting for him to decide if he wanted to pull out or not.  I knew he was about to come.  To my delight, he pulled out and came on my breasts.  I thought it would be fun to tease him, so I used my fingers to get some of his cum from my breasts, and I licked the cum into my mouth. 

We spent another night with David after that, but I will tell you that next time, since it is long enough already for you to read.

Tracy - smiles

(from Joan)
Dear Tracy...

You are right, in some European countries, incest is not a big deal.  It has been a common practice in many parts of the world... throughout history.

You asked: "What's your view on "family swingers"?"

Because of the laws in most parts of the US, I am generally not supportive of the idea.  Parents who choose to involve their kids in sex with them... or even with one or two close friends... is likely harmless.  But, if numerous other people are involved, and if the kids are young, there is an increased risk that all of the adults involved will end up with embarrasing legal problems.  It is not worth it!

On the other hand, if the "child" is really an adult, I see absolutely no problem with "family swinging."  I see that a lot!  Adult sons, daughters and other relatives OFTEN share sexual pleasures together and with others... usually without making a lot of fanfare about their relationships.

You said that "in the beginning (you) considered (anal sex) an abnormal sex act... but gradually, (you) were able to enjoy it more."  I hope you are feeling better about anal sex these days.  I (personally) enjoy that kind of sex play with my guys.

You said: "Paul also told me that the first time he came inside me after David's cum (was) already inside me... is  his wildest thing he has ever done. He said that knowing that he is fucking a woman's pussy with her son's cum inside is too much for him.  That's why he came so hard that night."

MANY men enjoy the special feeling of "sloppy-seconds."  No doubt knowing that it was David's juices he was sliding through WAS a real turn-on for him.

You also said: "Joan, I think men have so many more fantasies and fetishes than us.  What do you think about Paul's fantasy.  Do you think that men have more fantasies than us?"

Actually, I think that BOTH men and women have a great capacity for sexual fantasy... I know I do, and Bob and Tim sure do.  We enjoy a wide variety of fantasies, and greatly enjoy fulfilling many of them!  There is no one fantasy that fills our thoughts right now.  We generally tell each other our fantasies... and then work together shortly thereafter to fulfill them.  It can be GREAT fun!

Glad to hear that you and Paul visited David.   I was glad to hear that the three of you "had great sex" that weekend... and that you "were also very excited and sexually satisfied."

I don't fully understand your comments about birth control.  I understand that some women's bodies don't react well to "the pill," however, there are so many other forms of birth control.  Hopefully you are using one of them.  If you are on some form of birth control, why would you want David to use a condom?  I am not surprised that both David and Paul are asking you to let David cum inside you.  That's one of the best parts of intercourse... for both the guy and the gal.  Forget the "mother and son" bit.  Since you are letting him have sex with you, be prepared... and let it be fully enjoyable for both of you.

What you did with David is called "coitus interuptus."  It is called that because it really is an interruption to the fulfillment of the sex act.  By the way, "coitus interuptus" is NOT a sure method of birth control.  Sperm often get released into the vagina during the pre-climax thrusting.  

Since Paul (at least once) enjoyed having his cock slide through David's juices within you, David must have deposited his load within you at least once.  Be careful.  

Obviously you enjoy having sex with David.... and with David and Paul together.  I HIGHLY recommend that you adopt some birth control system (if you are not already using one), and then get back together with David and tell him he is welcome to FULLY enjoy himself within your body... to vigorously screw you, and then release his biggest climax within you.  Once you are sure you are using some form of birth control, there will be no need to resist any longer!

Believe me HE will be thrilled by this change, and YOU will thrill at the unrestrained sexual exlperience with him... while savouring the feel of his pre-ejaculation cock enlargement, and the feel of his juices squirting deep within you. 

I will look forward to the report on the second night you and Paul spent with David... and any further visits you have with him. 

I definitely believe is is time for Tracy to put away all the "guilt," and simply revel in the fact that you are giving your son pleasure... while having much pleasure yourself

Much love,
Joan

(from Tracy)
Dear Joan, 

David called me on the phone and told me he will be coming home for Spring Break this coming Friday to see me.  He also told me that you have e-mailed a note to him.

Joan, thanks for answering my questions.  I will answer yours as best as I can..

My son and I used to fight a lot before we became more intimate together.  I think by giving him something he enjoys doing with me, he became more obedient and willing to obey my requests.  I like the part of me being his mother, knowing he loves me as much as I love him.  I think that after I let him sleep with me (and some fondling of my breasts) when he was about 9, I can't remember any major fights we had.

About that first DP with Paul and David:  I think I straddled Paul that first time.  Then David mounted me, anally, from behind.  After some penetration, Paul said he wanted my ass, so they switched positions.  It was awkward at first because it was my son's first DP.  Yes, I have become more inclined to enjoy anal sex now (thanks to my DP experiences in my videos).

About my birth control pills: Yes, I gained some weight after taking these new pills.  The last pills also had some side effects.  At the moment I am using a diaphram.  Maybe the pill thing is just me thinking too much.  I always feel very self-conscious about my weight   As a porn star, I always needed to watch my weight constantly.  Although I am not staring in adult videos now, I still play some supporting roles in some adult films.  

That night when we visited David, I don't think he did cum inside me.  He pulled out & came on my breasts.  I also don't want to instill any religious guillts in David.  I want him to think for himself.  I think if I just focus on giving David pleasure, and revel in my own pleasure as well, that will convince me to let go.

Tracy  smiles.....

(from Joan) 
Dearest Tracy... 

Thanks for your quick note back.

Yes, I did write to David.  It was a brief note, but I told him you had told me about your visit to his college town with Paul.  Glad to hear David will be visiting you this coming weekend.

It sounds to me like Paul truly loves your son!  If they talked privately during the time that they were both enjoying you sexually... they no doubt DID talk about "what they want to do with (you)."  That's what guys do.  Particularly guys who have the opportunity to enjoy sex with the same woman.  I am sure my guys do that too.  In your case... and mine... it is both because the guys enjoy all the sex they can have with you (and me), and because they both love you (and me).

You said: "For this Spring Break, I will open up to my son and let him enjoy me the way he wants.  I AM TIRED of feeling GUILTY and feeling bad about myself."  YEAH for you... and for David!  Enjoy yourselves, and bury that "guilt" feeling.  It's a worthless bugaboo!

As you said...."I think if I just focus on giving David pleasure, and revel in my own pleasure as well, that will convince me to let go."  ABSOLUTELY!!!

Again.... Much Love,,
Joan

(from Tracy) 
DearJoan.

Here are the details about the Sunday night we spent with David at the motel.

After both David and Paul were exhausted from screwing me Saturday night, we all slept, with me in the middle.  One thing I have got to tell you though, David screwed me more than Paul did.  Younger men!!!!  David fucked me 3 times, Paul 2 times.  David did pull out every time he came.  I did remind him everytime to pull out.

Anyway, After we were all tired, we slept.  Then around 7 in the morning, I opened my eyes and found my son on top of me.  He was already inside me.  David kept slowly thrusting within me.  IT FELT GOOD being penetrated and slowly screwed.  Joan. I have to say I enjoy those slow thrusting moments with my son.  He saw me looking at him, and told me he had gotten a morning erection and needed a release.

I told him that it was OK.  At about that time, I looked to my right and saw Paul was watching us,  I think he pretended to be asleep so as not to disturb us.  When I looked back at David, he was moaning and telling me how good my morning pussy felt. 

At about that moment I began to wonder if he thought about the fact that the pussy he was fucking is the same pussy through which he came out into this world.  The thought amused me for a second, that he came out from my body and now he is inside me again... and giving me pleasure.

I think he was sweating quite a lot, because we had a sheet over us and the room's temperature was high (someone turned the heat too high the night before).  My motherly instinct took over.  I tried to wipe the sweat off David's forehead, and asked him if he wanted to take a break. 

But, David was close to cumming.  His thrusting was more urgent.  I was also feeling good, being hammered with his high speed.  I then put my hands on his butt, urging him to thrust deeper into me.  It was a very intense moment.  That moment was the highlight of our two nights together!

As David was getting closer to cumming, he begged me to let him cum inside.  He kept saying that he knew I was on the pill, and he just wanted to cum inside me once.  I knew I WASN'T on the pill, but that I was in the "safe" part of my menstral cycle.  I was feeling weak and feeling very good at the same time.  So I just laid there and didn't try to push him off... UNTIL he finally came inside me.  It feltr sooo good! 

IT WAS A VERY INTENSE FEELING, Joan.  We were both panting hard.  His head was buried against my left shoulder, and he was still panting.  After about a minute or two, he kissed me, and got up and headed for the bathroom to pee. 

While he was in the bathroom, Paul crawled over and got on top of me.  He told me I looked very sexy.  Then, Paul started thrusting into me like David had done... slowly at first.  I could tell he was enjoying his "sloppy-seconds." 

David came out of the bathroom and saw Paul on top of me.  He laid next to me and kissed my breast.  Paul then asked David to French kiss me.  Paul came in about 5 seconds after David and I started kissing with some tongue action. 
 
The rest of the day wasn't particularly memorable.  We went out to shop around and see the town.  We did come back to the motel and screwed again before Paul and I parted with David.  During that afternoon, Paul and David treated me to a wonderful DP. 

I straddled Paul with my back to him (cowgirl-style).  He inserted some KY and was soon in my ass.  David got on top of me and fucked my pussy.  Guess who came first, Joan?  My son came first.  I think that since I had let him come inside me that last time, he wanted to cum inside me again. 

Although he pretended to pull out and come on my stomach, I knew he had already come inside me.  (That naughty boy, LOL).  I know it was "safe" for me during that time, so I let it go. 

Paul spun me around and fucked me missionary-style.  He came in less than a minute.  I know he knew David had come inside me again.  I am sure that's why he was so turned-on.

After David went back to his dorm, I talked to Paul about the two times David came inside me.  He said that he knew, and that he had also deposited his load inside me after David each time.  

Tracy-smiles

(from Tracy)
Joan, 

Thanks for your reply, and all your answers to Paul and my questions in the e-mails.  We want to say that because of you, our sex life has been enlivened and enhanced.  Thanks also for your encouragement for me to overcome my guilt.  I sincerely thank you.

Joan, can you suggest some "naughty" things Paul and I can do with David for his "Sping Break"?

I know a lot of kids would go traveling instead of coming home to see their mom.  So I want to make it memorable for David.  I want to surprise him a little, and make him wanna come back home for more.
 
Tracy -smiles.

(from Joan)
Tracy and Paul...

Thank you for providing all the details of your second night with David (at his college town).

Obviously all three of you thoroughly enjoyed yourselves... and you already seem to be letting go of that old "guilt" stuff.  I was glad to read that you let David cum inside you (twice), even though the second time was really not with your explicit permission.

I think that when you tell David in advance (like this comming weekend?!?) that you WANT him to deposit all that he has within you each time you screw, the sex will be even that much better for all of you.  If nothing else, THAT will make this weekend "memorable" for him.

You  said: "After David went back to his dorm, I talked to Paul about the 2 times David came inside me. He said that he knew, and that he also deposited his load inside me after David each time.  He said that if I got pregnant, he is at least half of the father.  I was puzzled by what he said. 

"Joan, if I were to get pregnant, how would I know which is the father, since both came inside me.  Paul later told me he was joking, and he knows I was still "safe" that night."
 
This is an important question.  I am glad you asked.

First, Paul's thoughts about sharing fatherhood with David is NOT an unusual fantasy.  I have heard several men express that idea.  Actually though (unless a miracle is involved), it is just a single sperm from one of the men involved that will fertilize one of yur eggs and result in pregnancy.  Should the pregnancy result in twins, it is POSSIBLE (but not probable) that sperm from two different guys created the pregnancies.

As you may have read in my personal story, when my guys and I decided to have kids, I stopped taking birth control pills.  Then, when we were sure I was beyond the chemical effects of the pill, and was in my most fertile period, both guys screwed me alternately... over and over again (until, frankly, I was sore!).  That was one wild time.  We were like rabbits!

However, when it was clear that I was pregnant, we mutually decided that there would never be any paternity tests done to determine which guy's sperm won in the battle for my egg.  That was also true each of the three pregnancies afterword too.

We did this because both guys wanted to feel like they were FULLY the FATHER of ALL of the kids... never to be tempted to consider any of them the other guy's kid.  And, that is the way it has worked out.  Both Tim and Bob deeply love all four kids AS THEIR OWN... no questions asked.

On the other hand, should you get pregnant, you COULD have paternity tests done to determine whether it was Paul's or David's sperm that initiated the pregnancy.  In situations like yours and mine, that is NOT a good idea.

Keep in mind that fucking doesn't make a man a father.  It is what that man (or men) do after the child is born in the way of "fathering" love and activities that really make a man (or men) a father.

I was pleased to read that you are going to see your doctor to get you back on the pill... for now.  That should assist you in postponing decisions on your desire to bear another child with Paul, so that all of you can truly enjoy yourselves this coming weekend... and during the months ahead.

It heartened me to read your praise for my communications with you.  It make the time was all worth while.  I hope I REALLY HAVE "enlivened and enhanced" the sex life you and Paul and David enjoy.

Finally.... you asked... "Joan, can you suggest some "naughty" things Paul and I can do with David for his "Sping Break"?

These are just suggestions.  Before David arrives, make sure you are freshly showered, perfumed, and wearing some semi-see-through lingerie.  Let that image of you be his first sight when he arrives.  Then, as early as circumstances allow, wrap your arms around him, give him a big hug and passionate kiss before starting to undress him.

When he is fully nude, probably with Paul there cheering you on, whisper into his ear something like "this weekend David, I want you to pleasure every hole of my body with that hard, manly cock of yours... and I want you to deposit every possible ounce of your love juice deep inside my pussy."

That ought to get things off to a hot start for a weekend of mutual sexual enjoyment for all of you.  Then, sometime during the weekend, invite David to join Paul inside your pussy... both cocks, side-by-side... so they can both feel each other sliding within you (a different sort of DP).

At some point do a reverse missionary position with David (you on top), and invite Paul to lick your pussy from behind... and David's cock as it slides in and out of you.  David may wish to try the same thing while Paul is inside you.

At another point, have some whipped cream (spray can), carrots, cucumbers, and fruits (like seedless grapes and bananas)... and maybe even some chocolate syrup handy.  Don't tell either of the guys your plaln... surprise them.

Give yourself a relaxing shower before starting.  Then, be sure to put towels down on the bed before you start.  Then surprise the guys by inviting them to use the whipped cream and/or chocolate syrup on your breasts and pussy (applying it, working it inside, and licking it off) and to use the fruits and vegies (as they see fit) on your pussy.  Encourage them to fuck you with the bananas, carrots and cucumbers... and then to eat them.  Encourage them to fill your pussy with the seedless grapes and then eat them out of you.

I have also found it fun to let my guys leave my pussy partly full of the seedless grapes, and then to fuck me like they are mashing grapes to make wine.  The grapes tend to crush within me and make the inside of my pussy cool as the guys keep plunging, and the grapes keep crushing.  I love to lick and nibble on their cocks after they are done.  Obviously, once all the play is done, you will need a shower and a thorough douche.  

Another game is "Who Is In There?"  You let them blindfold you.  Then you assume the doggy-position near the end of hte bed.  Then the guys take turns entering your pussy or anus from behind... sometimes just stepping back a bit and re-entering... so you don't know if they have really switched.  After about five strokes, you try to guess which guy is within you.

If you guess right at least 75% of the time, they have to later give you an oral bath (both of them licking every inch of your body and giving you head).  If you cannot correctly identify the correct guy at least 75% of the time, you have to get on your knees and give each of them a cum-swallowing blow job while they watch TV nad/or have a beer.

You could also fill a condom (or a long balloon) with water and put it in the freezer (it may need to be turned a few times DURING the freezing process to keep it round). Then, at some point (when you want to spice things up, invite them to gently insert the frozen dildo into your pussy and fuck you with it as long as you can stand it.  Then, invite one of them to screw your "Cold Box" to see what it feels like.  As they are doing that, you (or the extra guy) can take the remains of the frozen dildo and stroke it over their nuts while they are inside you. 

Well... hopefully you will use one or more of the above suggestions to add spark and spice to a thoroughly-memorable, sex-filled weekend with David.

Next week, please send me a detailed note about what all you guys did together.

Love,
Joan

(from David)
My Dearest Joan, 

Hello, Joan, I just received a call from my mom.  She told me something I thought she would never say.  I thought I was dreaming. 

She said she would let me do what I want this weekend with her.  I had to make sure she meant what I thought she said.  So I asked if she meant I don't have to wear a condom, and that she will allow me to cum inside her as many times as I want.  She laughed and said, "Yes!"

Joan, I don't know what to say or how to thank you.  I know you had something to do with it.   Thanks for your kind words.  I promise I will be a good boy and listen to what my mom says. 

Joan, I wanna tell you more about us, and how I began fantasing about my mom.  When I was about 10, my friends showed me some adult magazines with nude pictures.  The women in the magazines were about my mom's age. 

I was very turned-on looking at the pics.  One day, when I passed by my mom's bedroom, I saw her masterubing.  I couldn't take my eyes off what I was seeing, because it was just like the pics in the magazines. 

So, one day I decided to hide underneath her bed to listen to her masturbating.  Of course I was masturbating also.  Unfortunately, I got caught one of those times. 

She REALLY scolded me, and told me I was a really BAD boy, and told me to never do that again.  I remember she slapped me on my face and yelled at me a lot.  I was very humiliated, and I cried afterward.

After that incident, I never talked to my mom (not one word for about 2 weeks), until one day when mom was being very nice to me.  She was wearing a low-cut dress and was showing a lot of cleavage.  She bent down (or forward) in front of me for a long time to ask me what I would like for dinner. 

I could CLEARLY see her breasts (which are very big, I think 36D, maybe).  That day, I couldn't help but answer her (like an idiot... with my mouth hanging open).  I think from that day on, I would answer her whenever she asked me, because she dressed very sexy.

Shortly after that she even began letting me sleep with her at night.  The highlight of those nights sleeping with her was that I would wait until she was asleep, then I would get behind her and dry-hump her from behind. 

I came very quickly of course.  So sometimes I would do it more than once.  I don't know if she knows I did that when she was sleeping, but she never pushed me away or said no. 

Then, one day my mom introduced me to Paul, her new boyfriend.  From then on, she wouldn't let me sleep with her.  It was then that I hated Paul for ruining my fantasy.  I decided I would never accept him or talk to him at all. 

My mom sensed that, and tried to persuade me to talk to Paul.  Well, how could I talk to a guy who took away my mom? 

One night, my mom let Paul stay over.  Then I heard them fucking upstairs.  I was hurt, and turned-on at the same time.  So I sneaked onto the second floor, by her bedroom door, to hear them fucking in bed. 

It was very exciting for me to hear them.  At one point, my mom kept asking Paul to fuck her harder and faster.  I know I was jealous and hurt, but I was also very excited.  I was beating my dick like crazy as I listened. 

I think I was too wrapped up in jerking off.  I didn't hear Paul come out.  I was startled when Paul saw me, but he just looked at me, winked, and went to the bathroom across the hallway.
 
The next day, I was very afraid that Paul had told my mom about seeing me.  I was relieved my mom didn't say anything, and Paul again just winked at me.  Then a few days later, Paul was over again.  I stayed waiting in my room until I heard the moaning noise again. 

This time when I walked upstairs, mom's bedroom door was not fully closed.  It was slightly open.  This time I could actually see them fucking.  At one point, Paul came out to use the bathroom.  He winked at me again.  Then I knew that he knew I was watching them, and I realized he must have left the door open to let me peek at them.

From then on, my attitude toward Paul changed.  Paul and I started to talk more.  Paul would sometimes tease my mom in front of me, encouraging her to let me see more of her body.  Paul also told me that if I would give him a chance, we could be good buddies, and that he and I could both "love" mom.  From there, we started to bond.

Joan, I think I am getting too lengthy.  I should stop here.  If you are interested, I can tell more about me and Paul and about when we were with mom the first time. 

Once again, Joan, I'd like to thank you for all your encouragement and advice.  I am very excited now, but I will try not to jerk off until I go back to see my mom.  I want to save all my cum for her.  This will be my FIRST and OFFICIAL time to cum in her with her permission.

This is a fantasy CUMING true.  I have fantasied about cumming inside her for many years.  I did cum in her during the last 3-some with Paul, but I had to beg her to let me.

One last thing, Joan. I met a girl here in college.  Her name is Shelly.  She has mom's looks and body.  Should I tell my mom about her?  I'm afraid if I tell her, mom would get jealous and not love me anymore.  I don't want to ruin what I have with my mom.  Right now, my mom is still the center of my biggest fantasies.
 
I love her very much.  I DO know my relationship with my mom is an UNUSAL one.  It is incest.  Society looks down on people like us.  But we are not hurting anyone, so why is it wrong? 

Side-note:  One of my roommates (now 3 of us in one room) saw my mom visiting me that day a couple weeks ago.  He has been pestering me to introduce him to her.  Should I introduce him to my mom?  He is my good friend, and we have known each other for 2 semesters now.

David

(from Tracy)
Dear Joan,

I called David and told him that I will let him cum inside me everytime we screw, beginning this weekend.  He was doubtful at first.  It makes me happy to know he is excited about coming home to see me.

Joan, I have no intention of having a child with my son.  I think Paul might have that fantasy, but not me.  Paul told me once that he likes it when David cums inside me because he likes David's sloppy-seconds. 

About your suggestions for when David arrives home.
Joan, Paul and I both LOVE your suggestions.  We will definitely give them a try.  One problem though, you said, "Then, sometime during the weekend, invite David to join Paul inside your pussy... both cocks, side-by-side... so they can both feel each other sliding within you (a different sort of DP)." 

Joan, I have a feeling that David may not want to have contact with Paul's cock.  Paul loves this idea.  I know him.  Paul even suggested that he would like to guide David's cock inside my pussy with his hand.  I know David is "VERY STRAIGHT," (homophobic would be a better word for it).  I have no problem with it.  I think it is a good idea.  I would love to be double-stuffed in my pussy.  So, Joan, any suggestion? 

Paul again said he would love to take David's cock out of me once in a while and guide it back into my pussy.  But David may be relunctant to let Paul touch his penis.

I love the "Who is in There," and the "Cold Box," ideas you suggested.

Tracy, smiles

PS:  We'll keep you posted next week.  I know both Paul and I are very excited.  Paul again told me he can't wait for his sloppy-seconds from David.  He said he will try to compose himself and not cum too quickly.  I still think Paul is kinda kinky, LOL.  But he is a good father figure for David, and I love him.

 

(from Joan)
Dear David...

Your note was sooooo kind.  Thank you.

I was pleased to hear that your mom had called you and set the stage for you, her and Paul to have an exceptionally fun, sexy time together this coming weekend.  Yes, I think I may have played a role in that.

You should know that one of the things that has made your mom less than fully at ease in having sex with you is a "guilt" that she has been carrying... a guilt that dates back to her upbringing as a child.  A guilt that has been magnified during those times that you have been enjoying sex with her and called her "mom."

May I suggest that during those times you call her "Tracy," or "my favorite lover," or "special woman," etc.  I am sure that will help her avoid sinking back into those old "guilt" feelings.  Just a suggestion... in the hopes that it will benefit both of you... and enhance the pleasures you all share.

May you now FULLY enjoy sex with her... with no need to use a condom, and no need to pull out right when your body is saying "stay in, push in further, and release everyting with gusto."

Thank you for telling me more about how you and your mom started sharing sexual pleasures... and the threesomes you have shared with Paul and her.

Your mom has never told me she was so well endowed in the breast department.  I hope you and Paul thoroughly enjoy every aspect of her body... her sexual playground.

I can understand how you initially had bad feelings toward Paul, since at first he replaced you in your mom's bed.  I am happy you and he get along so well now... and that both of you enjoy all forms of shared sexual pleasures with your mom.

By the way, sometimes when two guys simulltaneously make love to a woman (MFM threesomes, etc.) one of the guys will hesitate to fully let himself enjoy all the possibilities that such situations provide.  Some guys feel that if there is contact (casual or intentional) between the two guys, it is a homosexual act.

That is not so.  If two guys have sex (any form) together, and they never involve a woman in the fun, that is probably a homosexual situation.  If these same two guys occasionally share some form of sexual pleasure together, but they generally gain their sexual pleasure from male/female sex, they are probably "bi-sexual."

While I am not a supporter of homosexuality, I don't see anything wrong with bi-sexuality.  Occasionally I enjoy sharing sexual pleasure with another woman... particularly in the context of threesomes or group sex.

I mention this because with all the threesomes between you, your mom and Paul, there may be times when there is sexual contact (casual or intentional) between you and Paul.  Let that NEVER lead you to feel that homosexuality is involved.

My guys often kiss and lick my pussy while one or the other (or some other guy) is buried in my pussy.  Personally, I love the feel of a tongue and lips on my clit and pussy while I am being screwed.

Sometimes, when my guys bring a new guy home for me to enjoy with them, they will lay next to me and take turns holding and aiming the new guy's cock into me as I stroke their cocks.  Its sort of a way of saying "It's OK" to both me and to the new guy.  

Occasionally, Bob will stroke Tim's nuts while Tim is screwing me... or Tim will do it for Bob.  They BOTH enjoy having this done to them while they are inside me.  Clearly, these are NOT homosexual acts.  They are simply acts of sharing and enhancing sexual pleasure for all who are involved.

I just thought I would share that with you.

You said: "I met a girl in college. Her name is Shelly.  She has mom's looks and body.  Should I tell my mom about her?  I'm afraid if I tell her, mom would get jealous and not love me anymore.  I don't want to ruin what I have with my mom.  Right now, my mom is still the center of my biggest fantasies."

Well... good for you!  It is absolutely right that you should meet, date, and have sex with young women your age.  All the better that she has your mom's "looks and body."

However, I don't know if you need to tell your mom about Shelly at this point in time.  You and your mom are just about to launch into a new world of shared, unrestrained sexual pleasure.  Maybe you should enjoy that with her for a while before you start talking with her about other females in your life.

Somewhere over the next month or two, you may wish to ask your mom how she would feel about your seeing and having sex with other gals.  See what her response is.  Maybe she will encourage you to do that very thing.  

You judge her reactions yourself.  If, on the other hand, she evidences any form of disapproval (by word or by pulling back from sharing sexual fun with you), you may want to keep information about Shelly to yourself until a later time... a time when your mom has had a chance to think it over.

About "incest" and my views on it:
You are right.  Society (in general) DOES look down on incestual relationships.  For that reason, we must use care in letting others know about our special in-family sexual fun.  It doesn't mean that we can't tell anyone, but it means we have to use care... to sound out individual friends on their attitudes about in-family sex before considering opening up to them about  the in-family sexual fun we have enjoyed.

Obviously, there has been LOTS of in-family sexual fun in my family (me and my father... and later me with my brother... my mom and my uncle... and later with my brother, and more recently with my two guys... my guys with my neice, etc. etc.).

It is VERY important that sex between adults and young boys or girls MUST be kept confidential... or risk exposure to all kinds of problems.  

Such sexual activity MUST be FIRST initiated by the young person, so there is no chance that he/she tells others that he/she was coerced into having sex with an adult... and minimal risk that the young person's self image is harmed for life (such as boys who are encouraged to have sex with an adult female, only to be unable to get an erection... and thereafter feeling that they are sexually inadequate, etc.).

Generally, in-family sexual fun that leads to pregnancy should be avoided.  While such pregnancies are not always a problem, they should only be allowed after lots of talk between the parties.  Frankly, this was one of the issues that gave your mom concern.  However, she tells me she has taken steps to assure that this is no longer a risk in her play with you. 

Otherwise, I don't think there is anything wrong with in-family sexual fun.  What better place to learn all the many ways our sexuality can be truly fun and fulfilling!

You say of your mom: "I love her very much."  May it always stay that way... even after you have a girlfriend, lover or wife.  You are very fortunate to have a wonderful relationship with your mom that few men have.

Finally, you say: "One of my roommates (now 3 of us in one room) saw my mom visiting me that day a couple weeks ago.  He has been pestering me to introduce him to her.  Should I introduce him to my mom?  He is my good friend, and we have known each other for 2 semesters now."

You should ask your roommate why he wants to get to know your mom.  Is he just impressed by her beauty?  Or by her adult films background?  Or do you suspect that he knows you are having sex with her, and wants in on the action?

If it is the last situation, you MUST use care if you decide to acknowledge that you and your mom share a special sexual relationship.  Then, if you do that, and if it goes well, you should tell your mom and get her reaction.

When the circumstances are right (and only then), guys often enjoy sharing a special lover with a male friend (just as Paul is doing with you).  And, the lady involved often is flattered that another guy wants to join in the shared fun with her as the center of all that pleasure.

If you get that far, it is a function of how your mom and Paul feel about the possible introduction of a new young man into your mom's sex life.

I sincerely hope you, Paul and your mom have a truly wonderful and mutually satisfying weekend together.

After the weekend is over, please write back to me with ALL THE DETAILS!

Much love,
Joan

(from Joan)
Dearest Tracy (and Paul)...

Yes, David wrote me today, telling me of your phone conversation.  Believe me, you made his day.  He is REALLY looking forward to this weekend with you.

I was heartened to read your statement that you "have no intention of having a child with my son."  Let Paul continue to have his fantasy... but in this case, leave it at that.

You questioned whether or not David would want to have his cock in your pussy while it is also filled with Paul's cock.  If not, no big deal.  Just move on to something else.  However, don't give up on the idea just because you "think" David would see it as a homosexual thing.

If you want to see if that sort of fun DP is possible with your two guys, there are two things you can do.  Either start with David inside you, and verbally expresss to Paul that you want him in your pussy while David is in there... and see how David responds.... OR (regardless who is inside you first) tell both guys that you have a fantasy too.  Tell them that you have always wanted to feel both of their cocks in your pussy... at the same time.  And, ask them to help you fulfill YOUR fantasy.  If David balks, let it go... and move on to something else.

Once the guys try it, I am sure they will BOTH want to do it again.

The same advice applies to having one of the guys lick and kiss your pussy and clit while the other is screwing you.  Tell them is is a fantasy of yours, and you sure would love it if they would do that.  Again, if David balks at being either the licker or the receiver of the licking... just let it go and move on to something else.  If they DO both agree to do it, praise them lavishly as it is being done... telling them how special it feels. 

I will be eagerly awaiting your report next week... about all that you guys share this weekend.

Much love,
Joan

(from David)
Dear Joan,
 
Thanks for the hints about not calling my mom "mom" during those times.  I will keep that in mind.    

To answer your question about performing oral sex:  I do really enjoy performing oral sex on my mom.  I gues I have not done it as much as I should have, for her pleasure.  I have usually been too busy wanting to bury my cock inside my mom's pussy.  With your mentioning it, I will for sure pay more attention on oral sex (for her pleasure) from this instant on.
 
Your suggestions on having physical contacts with Paul:  I think I will consider opening up my attitude toward male/male touching, as long as my mom is with me. 
 
David

REPORTS AFTER DAVID'S SPRING BREAK

(Received March 14, 2004 from Tracy)
Dear Joan.

Just a quick note.  We had a great time last night and this morning with David.  David told me about the e-mail you sent him on the homophobic issue. Thanks Joan.  David did allow Paul to touch his penis and guide it into me.

Both Paul and I loved it.  But when it came to "DP", David backed out (after a few strokes) of trying to slide his cock inisde me with Paul.  I think he is still uncomfortable it.  I am not sure if there's anything Paul and I can do to prepare David to try it again in the future.  David told me it was an erotic idea though.

Anyway, We are planning to go out to shop and eat.  Then we will come back for another round of "fun".  Oh... we did try the "Who is in There" game last night.  It was great.  I lost though.

Thank you for opening up David to try something he might not have even considered before.  Paul said that he almost came during the first few seconds when he and David were both inside my pussy.  Again, he is kinky.  He told me that the thought of him being inside me, with my son's cock also inside me, drove him beyond anything he could imagine.

I think for now I will try to continue to let him have his fatansy.  It was fun for us, and both David and I love him very much.

Oh, one funny thing, Joan.  David didn't call me "mom" this time when he came inside me.  Instead he called my name "Tracy" or "my special woman".  I dont know if you had anything to do with his name calling.  But I thank you if you did, because it sure did make me feel better, and allowed me to focus better on enjoying him.

Joan, I know eventually I should accept the fact that I am having sex with my son.  I think I should learn to embrace it, and not to reject it.  After all, I love my son dearly.

Tracy "big smiles"

(from Paul)
Dear Joan

Hello, let me introduce myself.  My name is Paul.  I am Tracy's boyfriend.  I think I have mentioned to Tracy to tell you about my intent to e-mail you.  I hope it is OK for me to e-mail you.

Joan, I have been with Tracy for a long time.  I love her very much. and David too.  He is a great kid.  I enjoy hanging out with him.  I treat him like my own son. 

Joan, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your encouragements to Tracy.  It has led to our wonderful 3-somes with David.  Thanks.

Joan, I have told Tracy how turned-on I was to watch David have sex with her.  It was the ultimate feeling when David and I DPed Tracy, me on the bottom, and David behind or on top of Tracy, sandwiching her.

I love the regular DP, when Tracy straddles my lower body facing me, and then David moves behind her anally.  Being able to watch both Tracy and David's facial expression was an overwhelming turned-on feeling for me. 

Knowing that my cock was inside a woman whose son is also inside her was almost too much for me to handle. I loved it when both Tracy and David were moaning together. Sometimes as David was screwing her, he and Tracy gave each other erotic kisses (with their tongues). 

It is always just an incredible feeling for me to be part of that love.  I also enjoy when I just lay next to them and watch them screwing slowly with David on top of Tracy in the missionary position.  I hold her legs and kiss her toes sometimes.  I also cuddled and made small chit-chat with her while David was inside her.  I love those quiet and intimate moments.

Tracy probably has told you about another fantasy of mine.  It excites me to know David's cum is inside Tracy.  I love to fuck her with David's cum inside her.  Knowing David's cum could impregnate her turned me on so much that I come inside her within minutes.  I know she is back on the pill, but it still turns me on to know her son's cum is inside her.

Paul

(from Tracy)
Joan, 

David just left to go back to his college.

I feel suddently that I am missing something.  I think you call it a sense of emptiness.  I miss him already.  I don''t know how long or when we will meet again.  Probaby it will not very likely be soon, because he will be busy with his exams & school work.

Joan, is this feeling normal?  Why am I feeling such a longing for him all of sudden?  It is more than I used to miss him.  I wish I could give him something so he will miss me too.  But I don't know what I can give him.

It sure makes me happy to know that David is still interested in me.  When he was about to leave he asked me if he could have more threesome like we had this weekend.  I didn't want to sound like an eager lover.  I told him if he wants more "fun," he must do good in school first.

Paul was there laughing at us (or just me?).  He thinks that I am using my body to control my son's behavior.  Joan, do you think I am using sex to control David?  I just want him to do well in school.  What mother wouldn't want that?  But I think I did sometimes use my body and sex to get what I wanted from David, which I think strengthened our mother-son relationship.  We almost never have any major arguments any more. 

Tracy "smiles" lol

(from Tracy)
March 19, 2004 
Dear Joan

I wanna tell you what happened last weekend with the 3 of us, before I lose some details of the "good" memories. You are right that writing it can be a way to savor the memory even more deeply.

But first, I 'd like to answer your questions from your last e-mail.

You wrote, "Now that David is back at college, he may find himself attracted to one or more young college girls.  Would you be OK with that?  If that happens, it need not reduce the possibility that you and he (and Paul?) will 
again often enjoy each other."

If my son found a girl he likes and became serious in the relationship, I think I would stop having sex with David. This way he can concentrate on his relationship with the girl.  I wouldn't want him to be distracted by me.  Yes, 
both as a mother or a lover, I'd feel like I was losing him and I'd get jealous.  This is how I feel now.

You wrote, "Yes, I did encourage David to refrain from calling you "mom" while he was enjoying himself within you.    am glad that helped "make (you) feel better, and allowed (you) to focus better on enjoying him."

Thank you for encouraging or suggesting it.  Paul said that he would like David to call me "mom" when David and I were "close" toegther.  Paul said it turns him on to hear David call me "mom" when he is inside me.  I think he 
has a kinky incest fetish.  I wonder where he got this from. Anyway, I think it is harmless.

OK, below is to my best memory about "the weekend" we shared with David.

David came home around 5 PM on Friday.  I was still upstairs putting on my make-up, and getting my semi see-thru clothes on.  David came up, hugged me, and tried to feel me up with his hands.  I pushed him away because I didn't want him to get too exicted. 

I told him we had plenty of time to do anything we wanted.  I asked him how I looked, my make-up, my hair and my perfume.  He said I looked very sexy, and at the same time he touched my left thigh.  I then walked toward the bed and asked David to sit down with me to talk about what he been has been  doing in school, and about the friends he has met in school. 

Paul was at my bedroom door, watching us.  David and I chatted for a few minutes.  I could see David seemed 
hurried to finish answering my questions.  I know his mind was not on the things I asked.  Paul chuckled and said that maybe I should give my son a sexy private dance since he had been traveling all day.  Paul asked me to relax him a bit. 

I got up and did a strip tease for my son with my sexy clothes.  Once in a while, I would flash some skin for him.  After a while, my son got up and got closer to me.  He started to kiss me and feel me up again.  Eventually we ended up in bed, side-by-side, kissing each other.  His right hand was grabbing my ass, and he put his tongue in my mouth.  I could tell that he was very eager, and that he couldn't stop touching me. 

I heard a footstep.  I know Paul was nearby.  When David and I broke the kiss, I saw that Paul had his cock out and was masturbating in front of us.  David didn't get bothered by what Paul was doing.
 
David put his hand inside my dress and tried to caress my pubic area.  He then asked me if he could get a closer look.  By the time David was licking me with his mouth and tongue, and playing my clit with his fingers, Paul asked me to suck his cock.  Joan, I don't know why, but this time David REALLY played with my pussy much, much longer than he had in the past.  I was feeling great!  Joan, did you have something to do with it?  Well anyway, David was a good licker.  It felt wonderful!

When they both got naked, Paul was on my right side sucking my breast, and David got up and got between my legs and tried to insert his cock into me.  Paul then asked David if he could guide his cock inside me.  Paul said that it would be sexy to do that for me.  David paused for a second... and then said "OK." 

Joan, have you done this before?  Having a man guiding another man's cock inside you?  I was lying on my back with my legs spread wide, and looking at Paul holding my son's 6-inch cock toward my pussy.  It was a big turn-on!  I felt like they were then both accepting me, and accepting each other.  I don't know how to describe it, but it was a moment to remember. 

Joan, Paul is calling me to bed now.  I am tired also.  I will write you again.

Tracy smiles

 

3/25/2004
(from Joan)
Dearest Tracy...

Sincerest thanks for the detailed report on your weekend with David and Paul.  It sounds like you all had great fun!

One of the things you said in your report was: "If my son found a girl he likes and became serious in the relationship, I think I would stop having sex with David. This way he can concentrate on his relationship with this girl, and I wouldn't want him to be distracted by me. Yes, both as a mother or a lover, I'd feel like I was losing him and I'd get jealous. This is how I feel now."

May I suggest that you reconsider your thoughts on a possible future David girlfriend.  I continued having sex with my dad long after getting together with Bob and Tim (still occasionally do).  If David gets a girlfriend, don't cut him off.  That would be a real disincentive for him to be open with you about any love interest he may develop.  And, there is no need to be jealous.  He is still your loving son, still COULD periodically continue to be your lover, and you could gain a "daughter" in the process.

I was pleased to read that David let Paul insert his cock into you.  I am sure it was a special experience for both you and Paul... and apparently David did not find it offensive.  Yes Tracy, my guys periodically do that for me... both with each other's cock, and occasionally the cocks of male guests.  As you said, it can be a really big turn-on.  It does sort of convey the notion that each of the guys are accepting the shared fun, and the special aspects of sharing a sensual woman.  I am sure it was like you said... "a moment to remember."

You said: "(David) seemed like he was sleeping on me.  Paul had to ask David to get off of me. It FELT good to know that they were competing to enjoy my body.  I found it amusing to know.  JOAN, have your 2 guys done that?"  Sure... and I love it!

Joan

(from Tracy)
Dear Joan

Sorry I couldn't finish my report last night.  I was up around 3 AM.  I couldn't sleep.  I think I was thinking about David, like what is he doing and how is he doing in school.  Anyway, I will try to finish writing my ":memories" of last weekend.

Joan, it has been a week now, but I still remember how David let Paul guide his cock into me.  David and I started a steady fucking motion.  Paul was masturbating right next to me.  He had this intense look on his face.  I don't know if he was very turned-on watching David on top of me, fucking me; or if Paul just wanted to cum. 

When David and I were kissing while he was inside me, Paul interrupted us and asked if he could kiss me while David fucked me.  Then Paul and I kissed as David kept fucking me.  Paul then broke the kiss and asked David 
if he (Paul) could PUSH David's ASS cheeks to help him fuck deeper into me.

Paul had expressed this idea to me prior to David's comming home.  David hesitated for a second, then said "OK."  Paul got up and used one hand to push David's ass cheeks downward against me, slowly at first.  Then I could see him use both hands.  IT WAS a turn-on for me.

After a few minutes of Paul's pushing on David's ass, my son came HARD inside me, both of us panting and sweating.  I could feel his cum inside me.  There was a lot of his cum inside me!  I think that was his biggest orgasm EVER.  It was a really good fucking. 

Of course, Paul was excited.  He waited for David to get off of me for his turn with me.  The funny thing was that David lay there on top of me for so long (I think he was enjoying his own orgasm). 

Yes, Joan, I had also used my vaginal muscles to hold tightly to his cock.  He seemed like he was sleeping on me.  Paul had to ask David to get off of me.  It felt good to know that they were competing to enjoy my body.  I found it amusing to know that.  

For the rest of the night, we DID try your "Who is in There," and "Cold Box" games.  (Paul and I didn't want to make a mess on the bed, so we didn't try the "Grapes In The Pussy" game that you mentioned.  We will try that in the future.)

In "Who is in There," they tied me up on the bed and had me lay there on the edge of the bed.  My pussy was wide open, and my legs were spread wide.  They both took some strokes first, then we started the guessing game. 

I lost (on purpose).  Later I sucked them off while they were watching one of the videos I performed in.  David stared at the video where I got DPed by 2 men.  When I was sucking him, he moaned and kept mumbling "mom" or "mommy,"  They were lying on their backs on the bed.  I kept alternating my sucking service to them in the middle of the bed.  When Paul came in my mouth, I swallowed, and then I reached up to Paul and kissed him. 

While playing the "Cold Box" game (I brought up the games), David was delighted that I had so many fun games.  Feel free to suggest more "fun" games to us.

Paul went to the fridge and got the condom-filled with ice.  They both inserted it into me for some minutes.  Then David fucked me first.  Then Paul.  They both said they enjoyed the cold feeling inside my pussy.  I think it was this game that gave us all the most fun.  It was during that game that David called me "Tracy" and "Special Woman," while he was jamming his cock in and out of my "Cold Box". 

Paul likes to be a bystander, and observe, and then have his sloppy-seconds after David is done.  I can't remember how many times each of them came inside me, but I'd say David came at least 6 times on Friday night.  Paul couldn't keep up with him.  But I know Paul got at least 4 sloppy-seconds.

Like the motel morning we shared in David's college town, David was fucking me again in the morning.  I think David likes to fuck me when I am asleep.  He woke me up around 8 in the morning with his cock inside me.  He was already close to cumming, so I stopped him and told him to calm down, that I like to enjoy morning moments like that with him.  Paul was asleep, I think.  David and I looked at each other, and fucked until he came inside me again. 

As usual, he needed to pee after he came.  When David came back from the bathroom, Paul and David gave me a DP that was absolutely mind-shattering.  It was one of those DP experieinces I will always remember. 

The rest wasn't as memorable as these things I have told you.  Maybe David can give you some details I missed here.

I don;t know when I can hold David in my arms again, but I will look forward to "holding" him in my "arms" again.  I think a little bit of separation can make sex more refreshing for all of us.

Tracy - smiles

(from Paul)
Dear Joan
 
Have we shared threesome fun with other guys?  Yes, mostly with our closest friends. 
 
Have I treated Tracy to a gangbang?  Yes, again.  With our closest friends and sometimes with some guys I know in a bar.  There were 4 or 5 of us.  We all fucked Tracy at least once, and did DP with her.  However, that was a while ago.  I think both Tracy and I want to limit our sex partners to a few close friends now.

I enjoy the relationship with David, and I enjoy the sex we have with Tracy.  I think incest is still my #1 fantasy.

Tracy told me she has written to you about our weekend with David.  I think that's good for her, since writing it can enable her to enjoy those experiences even more... in her memory.  I know Tracy enjoys the sexual relationship with her son.  To know that she is happy, makes me happy.  To know that I am fulfilling my incest fantasy while making Tracy happy, is a blast.
 
Currently, Tracy and I manage my company's production processes.  Tracy is no longer in front of the camera (although she does have a supporting role in a film sometimes).  
 
Paul

(from David)
Dear Joan

Joan, I have just finished all my exams.  I also got a call from mom, asking if I have met someone.  I told her Shelly and I just met, and at this point there is nothing serious in the relationship.  She seemed calm after that.

I wanted you to know that I did try a DP with Paul in the same pussy.  I still feel uncomfortable having to touch his cock, but I like the idea of DP in the same pussy.  I think I just can't get over the feeling of touching another man's cock.  It is kinda "gay" to me.  I'd have less of that feeling if the other guy was near my age.  Then I'd feel more at ease.  I dont know why, but that is how I feel.

Joan, I would like to give it another try with Paul.  I know Paul loves it.  Is there any mental preparation for these things that I can do to not think about that "gay" feeling when doing the DP with mom (both of us in her vagina)? 

I will also write about the weekend experience in my own words, next time.  It is OK if you told mom about Shelly.  I think it's easier for me now.  

David

(from Joan)
Dear David...

Thanks for your note.  Glad to hear that you, your mom and Paul had a great weekend together.  Now that you have finished your exams, I am hoping you will send me a detailed report on that weekend of fun, from your perspective.

No, I didn't tell your mom about Shelly... or any girl in your life.  Rather, I asked her (in view of the special relationship you have with her) how she would feel if (someday) you had a girlfriend.  Her reply was generally positive, however, my question is probably what motivated her to ask you if you had a girlfriend.

About your cock sharing your mom's pussy with Paul's cock... believe me, there is NOTHING gay about that.  That is simply two guys sharing what they both enjoy... and giving a lady (in this case... your mom) the special thrill of feeling extra full by having you both in her at the same time.  The only "mental preparation" I can suggest to prepare you for that kind of male-male contact within a woman is just to remember that it is all for HER pleasure... while giving an extra kick to the two guys too.

Maybe sometime you will be able to have that experience with another guy of your age.  Believe me, we gals enjoy that kind of threesome play.  I sure do!

Please do write soon.  I genuinely look forward to your perspective.  And, by the way... best of luck with Shelly.

Much love,

Joan

(from David)
Dear Joan

Sorry I couldn't have replied earilier.  I was busy both with my exams, and with Shelly.

The weekend I spent with my mom and Paul was indescribible.

I arrived around 5 PM on Friday (March 12th).  The first thing I did when I arrived was to find my mom.  Paul told me she was upstairs getting ready to meet me.  I couldn't wait, and went upstairs to see her. 

I was surprised to see her dressed very sexily.  She wore kind of a see-through dress.  It is one of those you can see in an adult movie.  I was all over my mom's body when I greeted her.  But she seemed to want to talk more than have me to touch her.  We chatted about what I did in school for the past few months.  Thanks to Paul, mom stopped asking questions about school, and let me feel her up a little.  Paul asked mom to do a strip tease for me to relax.  Things got started from there. 

We were kissing on the bed, and Paul came over and started to get undressed.  I don't remember all the details now, but there was a moment I still remember vividly.  It was when I was about to insert my penis into my mom's pussy.  Paul asked if he could guide my cock into her. 

I was not prepared to have my cock touched by another man, but the idea of another man guiding my cock into a woman, especially when that man is the woman's boyfriend, turned me on.  I think mom was enjoying those moments with us. 

I was fucking my mom, and Paul was leaning forward to have his cock sucked by her.  I didn't want to cum too soon, so I just moved slowly and kept telling myself to prolong my climax.  I really enjoy fucking slowly and savoring those feelings inside of my mom.

Joan, there is something I wanna share with you.  I find myself attracted to mature women.  I don't know why.  Maybe it is because of the magazines I read when I was 9, with my friends, or maybe it is because my mom was so sexy all the time in the house while I was growing up.

When I was fucking my mom that day, I kept saying to myself how lucky I was, being able to fuck a mature woman who is also a porn star, and who is my mom.  How many guys my age have the luck that I have? I feel like I am the luckiest man on this planet! 

Joan, because I am attracted to mature women, sometimes even when I was with girls my age I was not turned-on as much as I think I should be.  Even when I was with Shelly, I was thinking about mature women like my mom.  I even think about sex with my female English professor (to whose office I have gone for help sometimes, even when I didn't need to).  I can't help myself.  Sometimes when I felt the urge, I would jack off thinking about one of the mature women I know. 

OK, getting back to what I was telling you.  Actually, there was another moment I still remember.  It was when Paul suggested that we do a DP with mom, both of us in her pussy.  I was a bit hesitante to put my cock in her next to Paul's cock.  So after a couple tries, I chickened out.  Paul and mom seemed understanding, and we moved on.

I still feel uneasy about having my cock rubbing another man's cock.  But I like the idea of my cock and another guy's cock sharing a pussy!  I will take your suggestion, to just think about it for the future... for my mom's pleasure.  After all, she has been giving me a lot of exquisite pleasure.  I will try again with Paul.

The rest of the weekend was fun.  We tried, "Who is in There," and "Ice in the Pussy."  Basically, Paul and I took turns fucking mom for a few strokes, and asked her to guess who was in there.  Mom lost.  She sucked us off for losing. 

Then "Ice in the Pussy" involved putting a bar of ice in mom's pussy, and then we fucked her afterward.  It was very exciting and fun.  Mom told me that you had suggested these good fun games for us.  I thank you, Joan.  

I have told my mom about fantasing about you.  She teased me, and laughed at me, saying she will tell you and embarass me.  I am not embarassed or ashamed about wanting mature women.  I think mature women in their 30's and 40's are very sexy and exciting... like my mom. 

I like them because of their sexaul experience, and their confidence in sex, and because they know what they want in bed.  Younger girls lack these qualities.  So, to me, mature women don't have to be like a Barbie doll, or especially outstanding in body shape.  As long as they have those qualities, I would desire them very much.  That's just my thoughts on mature women.
 
From what I have observed, many younger men have "mature women" fantasies.

One more thing.  I like Paul.  Paul is always willing to spend time with me.  We sometimes discuss what we are gonna do with mom in bed.  Paul knows what I like to do with mom, and he helps me to fulfill my wishes.  Paul understands my incest fantasies with my mom. 

At first I was afraid he might be against it.  Paul seems very into the incest idea himself.  He was always very interested in knowing what I like to do with mom sexually.  I know he likes sloppy-seconds after I fill mom's pussy.  One time, I pulled out and came inside my mom's mouth.  Paul then kissed my mom's mouth, and he seemed very aroused.  Joan, I don't think I can kiss a woman who has another man's cum in her mouth. 

I even find myself uneasy tasting my own cum in my mom's mouth when I kiss her.  There was one time that mom tried to kiss me with Paul's cum in her mouth.  I pulled away, and she seemed hurt.  I felt bad!  Joan, how should I overcome this feeling?  I dont like hurting my mom's feelings.  I would do anything to make her happy.

Now that my mid-term is over, I am thinking of visiting my mom again.  My birthday is next month, April 8th.  Do you think my mom would like to see me again this soon?

David

March 29, 2004
(from Joan)
Dearest David...

Yes, I think your mom would love to see you as often as possible.  Your birthday would be a great time to visit her again.  I hope you all enjoy yourselves again.

About your questions relating to the taste of your own (or Paul's) cum on your mom's lips when she kisses you...
Many men have this "hang-up."  In my mind this is a very strange hang-up.  Generally, cum is not bad tasting (often very good tasting).  But, most importantly, if you enjoy having your mom (or any woman) give you a complete blowjob (suck you until you come in their mouth), why would you think it is OK for them to taste or drink your cum... but think that it is somehow un-manly for you to do the same thing?

Sadly, many men (young and older) have a double standard on this subject.  They love to have their woman give them blow jobs... to completion... but many of them will not even return the favor of oral pleasure to their woman.  And, many of them, like you, will not taste their own juices on or in their lover's mouths.  What a shame.  I hope you do NOT want to be amoung those selfish men.

Apparently you enjoy eating your mom out (and maybe Shelly too).  Right?  (If not, you should!)  That is a kind and erotic thing to do for a woman you are in bed with.  It GREATLY stimulaltes a woman to be eaten to completion.  When you do that, you take some of their love juices into your mouth, and you probably swallow them.  The only thing different about tasting or swallowing male love juice is that there is generally a larger quantity when a man reaches climax. 

Most people regard kissing... after one of the parties has received a load of male or female love juices in their mouth or on their lips... as a HIGHLY erotic and loving thing to do.  It is a form of sharing that tends to bond the involved individuals.

Many men LOVE to eat out their woman after she has been well-screwed by another man... a man who has deposited his load within her. Again, most women regard this as a loving act, an act of intimate bonding.

Cum is NOT harmful!  It is sexual saliva.  We all exchange saliva when we kiss.

You asked; "Joan, how should I overcome this (uneasy) feeling (about coming in oral contact with your cum or the cum of another guy... on the lips of a woman you are making love to)?  Frankly, I believe it is just a matter of you deciding that (1) tasting/swallowing cum is not a bad thing, (2) cum won't hurt you, (3) cum isn't (or shouldn't be considered) repulsive, and (4) it is a part of love-making in a truly sharing situation.  Just do it a few times.  You will get used to the idea... and will eventually find it enjoyable.  That's how we women move from that "uneasy feeling" to enjoying the taste of our lover's love juices. 

So... you feel you are especially turned-on by older ("mature") women.  That's not bad.  Just keep it in perspective.  You may find yourself falling in love with a woman close to your own age, and periodically having sex with an older woman as a special treat.  Or, you may just always prefer older sex partners.  Either way... no problem.  Neither is right or wrong.

You asked what I think of younger men in general.  Frankly, I enjoy ALL males!  For an energetic screw, younger men can be great!  Your observations about sex between younger guys and older women seem be be right on.

You said: "Even when I was with Shelly I was thinking about mature women like my mom."  A word of caution.  Enjoy each intimate moment that comes your way.  Don't let thoughts of your mom (or any other woman) get in the way of you and Shelly having your own fun. 

You said: "When I was fucking my mom that day, I kept saying to myself how lucky I was, being able to fuck a mature woman who is also a porn star, and who is my mom."  You ARE LUCKY!  You have a very special mom... a mom who wants to share herself with you in ways that most moms are unwilling to do.

About the idea of joining Paul within your mom's pussy, you said: "I still feel uneasy about having my cock rubbing another man's cock. But I like the idea!  I will take your suggestion, to just think of it for my mom's pleasure."  I sincerely hope you will ultimately experience the pleasure of a DP within your mom's pussy (jointly with Paul... or???), for your pleasure... and for hers. 

I am glad you guys all enjoyed the games I suggested.  I offered a couple other ideas to your mom.  Maybe she will try them with you when you visit again.

As I have said before (and I mention it again, because you mentioned it again), I am pleased that you and Paul have a good relationship.

My best to you.  Keep me posted (about your next trip home, about Shelly, and about all the fun things in your life).

Love,

Joan

(from David on 3/31/04)
Dearest Joan
 
Joan, I think you are right about being more open to the taste of cum om my mom's lips.  As you said, "It is a form of sharing that tends to bond the involved individuals."  I shouldn't be one of the selfish man.  I will try to like it next time with my mom
 
Joan, Paul has licked or tasted my cum out of my mom's pussy before when I came inside her.  Can you tell me why men like Paul like this kind of "intimacy."  I would like to know, and maybe it will help me to do it without those uneasy feelings.  I know Paul and I both like the incest fantasy, but besides this fantasy, what other reasons would motivate Paul to lick my cum out of my mom?  
 
Also, Joan, I have called and asked mom if I could visit her for my upcoming birthday (April 8th).  She seemed to be excited.
 
Joan, the weekend I spent with my mom and Paul was INDEED very refreshing and fun.  I have to say your "Who is in There" and "Cold Pussy" games were part of what made the weekend so memoriable.  This next visit I definitely want to spend some hours with just my mom and I alone together.  I hope Paul will give me that space and will understand.  Don;t give me wrong, I love to have Paul with me to "play" with mom, but sometimes, I want it to be just the 2 of us alone for a little bit. 
 
David 

PS from Joan:  They did all get together again the weekend of David's 19th birthday... and shared lots of Tracy-centered fun.

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