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I met his mother in the Australian Navy while at recruit school. I left the 
navy, six months later, Tanya Louise Bates rings me up at home in 
Murrumbateman, NSW, just outside the Australian Capital Territory. She tells 
me she was six months pregnant. As I had been told by her what her father 
had done to her I was terrified about a child of mine being brought up in a 
family like that. She was being manipulated by her mother Louise Armstrong 
to stay quiet about the sexual abuse. I asked her to tell the police but she 
wouldn't as her mother was telling her to stay quiet for the families sake.

i went down to the Mornington Penninsula, Rosebud, Crib Point etc to try and 
persuade Tanya Bates to come back up to Murrumbateman with me. It succeeded 
as she moved up to Murrumbateman, then into Canberra. We lived in a small 
two bedroom flat when James was born. He was born at the Royal Canberra 
Hospital.

Due to the incredible stress that her family was putting on Tanya Bates, 
James was born premature. I remember looking at him and wondering wether he 
was mine or not because his mother had slept around. It took me until 2001 
after a DNA test to truely accept he was my genetic offspring.

I got married just after James was born out of fear for what would happen to 
him. I was terrified and there was no way that I was going to allow him to 
be taken back down to Victoria.

Life continued, love developed between Tanya Bates and I, Samantha was born 
but it was stressful and unhappy at the same time. I used to be frightened 
to pick up the phone just in case it was her family. Everytime Tanya Bates 
talked to them it would mean trouble. I spent the entire time of our short 
marriage trying to stop her going back to Victoria and being around her 
father.

While studying Geology at the University of New England, Armidale, NSW I 
left Tanya Bates. I could no longer cope with the arguments about her family 
and it had caused the destruction of my health and studies.

My brother helped her to go back to Canberra where my family helped her to 
get a government home. The children were happy, they had a good life. James 
used play in the back yard while his grandad sheered the sheep. He was a 
happy child. So was Samantha.

I divorced Tanya Bates through the Newcastle family courts in NSW.

Tanya Bates decided to move back down to Victoria to be around her family 
one christmas. Her brother Simon Armstrong came up to Canberra and went down 
to Victoria together. There was nothing I could do about it. What she had 
said about her family was hearsay and I couldn't prove to the police that 
the children were in danger.

I spent several years feeling ashamed and distressed because I knew that my 
children were in danger and could do nothing about it.

Tanya Bates and I eventually got back together. She promised me that she had 
stopped being involved with her family. I moved down to the Mornington 
Peninsula to try things again. Not long into being back together she became 
pregnant with Nickolas. It was at this time that she decided she wanted to 
be back with her mother and father. As I couldn't prove anything to the 
police there was nothing I could do about it. I was also disabled and 
suffering from serious depression. I used to spend most of my time in bed 
sick.

Just after Nickolas was born she used to force me to allow her peadophile 
father into my home to be around the children. I stayed in the bedroom out 
of the way because I couldn't cope with being around him and knowing what 
was likely to happen. I also used to go out for a drive in the car when they 
came around. After Nickolas was alive for just one month I left. I lied to 
Tanya Bates and said I was going to my parents for a short holiday. Tanya 
Bates and I, the kids met up with my mum and dad half way between VIC and 
NSW. I held my son Nickolas in my arms and kissed him goodbye. That was the 
last time I ever saw him.

For six years I spent stuck at home in bed with Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome 
and depression. I had all the guilt that my children were going to be abused 
and I couldn't do anything about it. All I knew was hearsay, I couldn't do 
anything. It was a living hell.


Nearing 2000 Tanya bates rang my father at HMAS Sterling in Western 
Australia saying she was having problems with James. He was destructive, a 
threat to his brother and sister and was telling lies. She was concerned 
about false accusations. She stated that if we did not take him she was 
going to put him into foster care.


As we were going to be moving back to England a clause was placed in the 
child contact and custody agreement lodged at the Western Australian law 
courts. Stating that we could leave the country without any issues from 
either party.

James was a problem at his school at in Western Australia, hitting children, 
stealing their lunches. He used to tantrum on the floor, throw things and 
become violent. When we got back to England the trouble really started. As I 
was disabled with Post Viral fatigue syndrome and depression I had a social 
worker, James was monitored by social services and had a specialist child 
psychologist to help him with his problems. Mum and dad came round three 
times a week to help with housework, cooking etc.

James started stealing, hurting children at school, lying and bullying. He 
used to pretend that he was being bullied but it was actually him doing the 
bullying. He stole their food, pencils etc. Minor stuff at first. Then he 
started to hit and threaten children with sticks and knives. He used to help 
me with the dishes and play with the blades of the carving knives menacingly 
in front of me. He used to do this in the lounge while watching tv. He used 
to go grab a knife and do this until I took it off him. Then things 
progressed to him threatening me with knives and furniture. He used to 
urinate all over the lounge if he didn't get his way. He used to sit on the 
stairs and repeat time and time again " I hate you dad, I'm going to kill 
you in your sleep". I slept with a chair at my door. On several occassions I 
woke up in the morning with him hovering over me. On one occassion he 
attempted to kill his grandfather by smashing an iron flask against his head 
while he was driving. He tried to kill his grandfather by throwing an iron 
spear at his chest.

Then things got really bad. He accused me of trying to strangle him with my 
bear hands, beating him, placing a knife to his throat and the biggy. 
Threatening him with a knife. On the worst night of my life, I had the flu 
on top of the Post Viral Fatigue Syndrome and was very weak, James attacked 
me with a hammer. He lunged forward several times and said he was going to 
smash up the computer. I got a knife out of the kitchen because I was 
terrified and told him to drop the hammer, he did. PURE AND FUCKING SIMPLE 
SOCIAL SERVICES, IT'S CALLED SELF DEFENCE. EVER WONDER WHY THE POLICE DID 
NOTHING ?


His remedial school tutor who was an ex Lowestoft magistrate judge came 
around the next day and James told her that I had attacked him with a knife. 
She immediately left the house. Next day social services and the police were 
on my doorstep. James was taken away under Section 20 of the child act, 
voluntary foster care. They investigated the situation, he was found to be 
fit, healthy and unharmed. Unmarked, nothing. They refused to let me see him 
without a social worker present so I told them to go fuck themselves and I 
refused to see him. It wasn't until his first foster placement when he 
attacked a child with an axe and chased them down the road and killed their 
family cat, throwing it up in the air, snapping it's neck then dumping the 
body outside the door that they realised what was going on. We went to a 
meeting to bring James back home at one stage and I got nothing but A 
FUCKING VERBAL APOLOGY !!! SOCIAL SERVICES SCREWED UP AND ALL I GOT WAS A 
FUCKING VERBAL APOLOGY. They wanted me to have James back at home but at the 
meeting his foster carers Dave and Lynn placed the sharps and knives on the 
table that he had been using to threaten children with on the table. My 
mother turned around to the social workers and said " no way are we doing 
this, your on your own, you evil little bastard" We walked out of the 
meeting amongst protest from the social workers.

He could not go to a normal school as he was excluded. No suffolk foster 
family would take him because of his behaviour. There were many more 
incidents of criminal behaviour, threatening behaviour. Too many to list. I 
visited James on and off during his first few years of foster care but it 
was difficult because of what he had lied about. I always said to him, 
Social Services, I stated it to the Lowestoft child protection team, "give 
me six months good behaviour and you can come home".

IT WAS ALWAYS THE DECISION OF JAMES IF HE WANTED TO COME HOME. HE HAD THE 
CHOICE TO CHANGE HIS BEHAVIOUR.

Sometime around fourteen years of age, James made the revelation that he was 
sexually assaulted by Ronald Armstrong. He was penetrated anally at age four 
under the supervision of his mother Tanya Louise Bates, in the home of 
Ronald and Louise Armstrong. This was confirmation of my worse fears. I had 
repeatedly asked him prior to this if anything had happened to him but he 
said no. I told Lowestoft police that I didn't understand why he made the 
revelation now and not before. Apparently it was due to James thinking this 
was normal behaviour.

At the age of fourteen Dave and Lynn, his foster carers who ran a halfway 
house for asylum seekers etc in the same home as James had had enough. It 
was not a normal foster placement because no family would take him. He was 
dangerous to himself and everybody around him. After burning his wallpaper, 
destroying his room. Threatening the other disturbed children that were 
there. Then finally trying to POISON DAVE AND LYNN WITH WHITE SPIRIT by 
placing it in their tea water. It was over. He also destroyed the next door 
neighbours priceless artwork and fed bleach to their pet rats in their water 
tray killing them.

James had a psycological assessment done by the education department and it 
was determined that he was an extreme risk to himself and to children around 
him. It was recommended that he was to be placed in a restricted and 
supervised facility with one on one supervision because of how dangerous he 
was.

Around this time I made a request to the Suffolk Police force under the Data 
protection act concerning the false allegations that he had made about me. 
When I read what he had said I was very angry and I asked him to go down to 
the Lowestoft Child protection people and tell them the truth. He wouldn't . 
After alot of trouble and legal bullshit between social services and the 
police the information was removed from my file. Social services had the 
gaul to deny that any allegation or incident with a knife had taken place. I 
told James he wasn't part of this family until he told the truth. Once he 
did, he was welcome to return home.

James was removed from Suffolk and taken to Kent based on a lie by social 
services. I was told by his social worker that by signing these papers James 
was going to be placed in a specialist facility and given the close 
supervision and care that he needed. I WAS LIED TO. He was taken down to 
kent and placed in a normal foster placement. HIS FOSTER PLACEMENTS DOWN IN 
KENT WERE LIED TO ABOUT HIS PREVIOUS BEHAVIOUR.

Due to what social services had done I was given no choice but to refuse to 
perform any parental responsiblity for James because in giving my permission 
for anything further for James I was legitimising what social services had 
done and it was criminal neglect as he wasn't receiving the proper care..


At eighteen I gave James another chance to redeem himself. Unfortunately I 
had the horrible task of having to tell him about his mother and the past. 
He couldn't cope with the information. After all who would ? being told that 
your mother was made to sleep with the family dog doesn't exactly make 
anybody feel good. Well, he decided to accuse his family of lying again. It 
hurt me, his father, his grandparents deeply at being told you are lying 
after what he had lied about. I ended up calling him a bunch of well 
deserved hurtful names.


James has been in foster care because he did it to himself. All he had to do 
was say sorry. James was a deeply disturbed child and a screwed up young 
man.




    

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