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AIDS DISSIDENT SCIENTIFIC SUMMARY ANALYSIS  

 

 
what is hiv?  
 
No laboratory has ever obtained an undisputed sample of human immunodeficiency
virus (HIV), despite countless attempts. Most laboratories, clinics and medical
corporations have come to accept indirect signs, or 'markers', such as antibody
reactions, proteins, genetic fragments, 'virus-like' particles, enzymes - that
could suggest a virus but also other things - as proving the presence and
existence of an 'HIV'.  
 
If such a virus were ever isolated by standards applicable until the late
1970s, the expectations are that it would be a retrovirus - a concept of
viruses adopted in the early 1970s. The genetic code of a retrovirus would work
'backwards' - 'retro' - transforming RNA to DNA. Most retroviruses are known as
harmless passenger viruses a part of all of endogenous or naturally occuring
genetic make-up. 'HIV' has never been found in suficient quantities to kill
T-Cells and in fact there is no concensus even after 21+ years as to 'HIV's
cytotoxic or cell killing mechanism. For a decade, researchers thought cancer
was caused by a retrovirus. Professor Peter Duesberg, UC Berkeley, isolated the
first retrovirus and is a Father of Retrovirology says 'HIV' is a harmless
passenger virus that does not cause the syndrome known as 'AIDS.'  
 
In 1984 some signs suggesting a possible new virus were detected in cell
cultures by the scientific teams of Frenchman Luc Montagnier in Paris, and
American Robert Gallo in Washington, who were trying to explain a single cause
for 'AIDS'. The French called their findings Lymphadenopathy Associated Virus
(LAV), the Americans called theirs Human T-cell Lymphotrophic Virus III
(HTLV-III). The US Government announced at a press conference in 1984 that a
new virus was "the probable cause of AIDS," yet before any scientific papers
inviting peer scrutiny were published. When such papers appeared in Science
some weeks later, a dispute erupted between Montagnier and Gallo. Gallo was
found guilty of scientific misconduct by a Senate Ethics Committee, for
misappropriating material and photographs of 'virus- like' particles from the
French. Because of the financial stakes - Gallo and the US government applied
for a patent for tests for 'HIV' the day of the press conference - the matter
was eventually solved only by a closed meeting between the scientists which
produced an official history of events, and a meeting between the US and French
Presidents.  
 
However, neither Gallo nor Montagnier ever managed to purify samples of the
virus they claimed to have detected. Many scientists believe that without
fulfiling this traditional primary requirement of virus isolation, multiple
confusions at the molecular biological level are inevitable over what or
whether anything has actually been found. To this day, primary purification of
'HIV' has never been achieved. The last attempts, published in 1997 in
Virology, revealed proteins and genetic fragments from microvesicles - sub-cell
particles - but no virus.  
 
hiv antibody tests  
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/epcurmedres98.htm  
 
 
Over the years of the HIV/AIDS theory, different types of test have been used
to try to detect such a virus in patients. These have included (1) antibody
tests, which look for a reaction in a person's blood between their natural
antibodies and synthetic proteins said to belong to HIV, and (2) Polymerase
Chain Reaction - PCR - or 'viral load' genetic tests, which purport to use part
of the virus' genetic code to detect its presence.  
 
All these tests are indirect, or surrogate. They do not claim to detect any
whole virus. Rather, they use markers to infer whether a virus might be
present. Unfortunately for the accuracy of these tests, these same markers can
be found in a variety of non-HIV situations. No HIV test of any kind has ever
been validated against the one measure that is not indirect - the gold
standard: physical virus isolation. This is because isolation of HIV by the
previously conventional standards of viral isolation has never been achieved,
despite numerous attempts.  
 
Of the antibody tests for HIV, there are two main types - called ELISA, and
Western Blot. Neither was designed especially for HIV, but are examples of
laboratory methodologies used in many investigations. Around the world many
companies market their versions of the ELISA and Western Blot antibody tests
for HIV.  
 
However, the uncertain, unvalidated nature of these tests is reflected in the
product literature supplied by their manufacturers.  
 
A typical example for the ELISA reads:  
 
"At present there is no recognised standard for establishing the presence or
absence of antibodies to HIV-1 and HIV-2 in human blood." - Axsym System,
Abbott Laboratories  
 
A typical example for the Western Blot reads:  
 
"Do not use this kit as the sole basis of diagnosis of HIV-1 infection." -
Epitope, Organon Teknika  
 
"Of course we looked for it [HIV]... We saw some particles but they did not
have the morphology [shape] typical of retroviruses. ... I repeat we did not
purify."  
   ~ Dr. Luc Montagnier, the "discoverer of HIV"  
     (see French transcript of quote from the interview
http://healtoronto.com/lmfrench.html , Did Luc Montagnier Discover HIV?
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/dtinterviewlm.htm 
or video)  
 
"No one believed we really had that many isolates... No one believed we really
meant that..."  
    ~ Dr. Robert Gallo, also discovered "HIV"  
     (see Gallo Investigated http://healtoronto.com/galloindex.html)  
 
 
 
'viral load' / PCR test  
 
Polymerase Chain Reaction - PCR - or the 'viral load' test, purports to detect,
and quantify, blood-borne HIV in patients. However, the genetic fragments it
amplifies have never been proved to originate in HIV, or in any virus. The
accuracy of PCR viral load is estimated by leading doctors at plus or minus
300% - i.e. a reading of 90,000 could be 30,000 or 270,000!  
 
The PCR was not invented for HIV. Its Nobel Prizewinning inventor, Dr Kary
Mullis, calls the use of PCR in AIDS medicine, "a tragedy in the practice of
Western medicine."  
 
The uncertain unvalidated nature of the PCR for HIV is reflected in the product
literature supplied by manufacturers. A typical example reads:  
 
"The Amplicor HIV-1 Monitor test is not intended to be used as a screening test
for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV infection." -
Roche, Amplicor  
 
VIRAL LOAD OF WHAT? 
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/chjppcrap.htm   
 
 
t-cells  
 
Since the beginning of the HIV/AIDS theory, it has been suggested that a virus
kills a certain type of cell of the immune system - called T-cells, or CD4
cells. 'T' refers to the maturing of these cells in the gland of the Thymus,
after their birth in the bone marrow. CD4 is short for Cluster Differentiation
4, referring to a method by which scientists group subsets of these cells
according to protein markers on their surface.  
 
In fact there has never been any proof that an HIV kills these cells, or indeed
that even when they seem in low numbers in a person's blood, cells have not
instead migrated out of the blood to bone marrow and elsewhere. Despite common
assumptions, even by doctors, CD4/T-cell counting remains a poor predictor of
wellness and illness. Since the Berlin World AIDS Conference of 1992
considerably less scientific importance has been attached to T-cell counting.
T-cell counts are naturally variable, within an individual over time, between
individuals, and between communities. The technology for counting T-cells is
accurate only to approximately plus or minus 100 cells. The cells sampled for
counting are taken from a person's peripheral blood, where it is widely
accepted, less than 10% of a healthy person's T-cells will ever be found.  
 
CD-4 T-cells: What Do They Count For? [index of articles/papers] 
http://healtoronto.com/cd4counts.html 
 

what is aids?  
 
Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) is a medical diagnosis applied since
1984 in some branches of medicine and the wider public when a person perceived
as infected with a human immunodeficiency virus ('HIV') experiences one of 29
conditions. But all of the 29 conditions exist or occur in persons diagnosed
'HIV' antibody negative and are only redefined as 'AIDS' when someone tests
antibody positive. 
 
'Acquired' specifies that the diagnosis does not apply to people with inherent
immune deficiencies. 'Immune Deficiency' is conventionally taken to be the
inability of a person's body to protect against illness. Syndrome is a group of
symptoms or conditions which seem to be more or less linked.  
 
The growing list of conditions defined 'in the presence of HIV infection' since
1984 as AIDS, have already all been known for decades. Thus TB plus 'HIV' is
AIDS, TB without 'HIV' is TB. Cervical cancer plus 'HIV' is AIDS, without is
cervical cancer. Etc.  
 
In the early 1980s the 'AIDS-indicator' conditions numbered two: pneumocystis
carinii pneumonia (thought to be caused by an opportunistic protozöon, now
thought to be fungal), and Kaposi's Sarcoma (a quasi-cancer of the skin and
other membranes, first reported in 1887). These two conditions were found
increasingly frequently in the early 1980s in the USA and Europe in men having
sex with men, and were hypothesised as resulting from infectious immune
deficiency, inferred from counting people's peripheral T-cells.  
 
The syndrome was for a while classified as Gay Related Immune Deficiency
(GRID). The list of 'defining' conditions has increased substantially since
1984, though the major risk groups for 'AIDS' in the West have remained men who
have sex with men, people with haemophilia (Haemophilia), and IV drug users
(Drugs). Despite early alarms, HIV/AIDS has never become a heterosexual
epidemic in the West, which does not mean it's a gay disease, but it has failed
to meet the parameters of the infectious model. 'HIV=AIDS' does not fulfill
Koch's Postulates as none of the apes injected with 'HIV' have developed 'AIDS'
conditions.  
 
The international CDC definition of AIDS is specifically founded on  
'infection with HIV', assumed or demonstrated. Thus by definition it is nearly
impossible to have 'AIDS' that is not 'correlative' with 'HIV', though it is
widely accepted that 'Immune Deficiency' can be 'Acquired' in a many ways.
There are also many well documented causes and treatments for all of the 29
'AIDS' redefined conditons or for addressing aquired immune deficiency. 
 
Between different regions of the globe, the criteria and means for arriving at
an AIDS diagnosis vary. There are at least seven varying official criteria for
diagnosing 'AIDS.'  
 
In Africa, for example, the same official concept of AIDS can be found, but
since a meeting in 1985 in the city of Bangui, Cote d'Ivoire, the World Health
Organisation's Bangui AIDS Definition has allowed for diagnosis of AIDS in
Africa with no test performed for 'HIV', if a person experiences the relatively
common African symptoms of weight loss, cough, fever and diarrhoea for more
than a month.  

HIV cannot be the cause of AIDS. Why would a virus infect 1% of the US
population and 30% of some Africa countries? Why would a virus cause different
symptoms depending on your age, gender, and location? Why hasn't 20 years worth
of research and billions of dollars spent created a vaccine or "cure"? Why do
the pharmaceutical companies and the government censor the scientists, doctors
and laypeople that ask these questions and provide reasonable answers?

The infectious model does not work that way. See how 'HIV=AIDS' unfills Kochs'
Three Postulates of the Infectious Model of Disease. This is why there will
never be an 'AIDS' vaccine or cure for 'AIDS' or a manner to prevent
transmission of the alleged 'HIV.'



'AIDS' IN AFRICA INDEX OF PAPERS, ARTICLES
http://healtoronto.com/africa.html




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The AIDS Debate 
by Liam Scheff 
May/June 2003 


Part I: "The Most Controversial Story You've Never Heard" 
http://www.weeklydig.com/dig/content/3168.aspx 

Part II: "The Gay Plague" 
http://www.weeklydig.com/dig/content/3499.aspx 

Part III: "Africa: Treating Poverty with Toxic Drugs" 
http://www.weeklydig.com/dig/content/3593.aspx 
 

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RESOURCES FOR FURTHER INFORMATION:  
 
 
The GROUP for the SCIENTIFIC REAPPRAISAL  
of the HIV/AIDS HYPOTHESIS  [100s of pages of articles, papers]
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/find.htm  

BRITISH MEDICAL JOURNAL [BMJ] 
MODERATED ONLINE DEBATE ON HIV/AIDS http://bmj.com/cgi/eletters/326/7387/495

[especially note referenced contributions of The Perth Group of Austrailian
AIDS Dissident Scientists, lead by biophysicist Eleni Papadopulos-Eleopulos,
whose other extensive archives are found here]
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/perthgroup/ 


Roberto Giraldo, MD 
President of The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS
Hypothesis http://www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/papers.html 
 
TREATING AND PREVENTING ILLNESS ATTRIBUTED TO OR ASSOCIATION WITH "AIDS"
http://www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/TreatingAndPreventingAIDS.html

 
REBUTTAL TO NIAID/NIH "Evidence for HIV" DOCUMENT 
http://www.healtoronto.com/nih  
 
 
INTERNATIONAL AIDS PANEL, INTERIM REPORT  
Synthesis of deliberations by the panel of experts invited by the President of
South Africa, Thabo Mbeki and the ten experiments the Panel designed in attempt
to resolve the controversy, endorsed by the African National Congress [AIDS
Dissidents/'Denialists' and AIDS Apologists/Orthodoxy] 
http://www.polity.org.za/govdocs/reports/aids/aidspanel.htm  
 


REBUTTAL TO DURBAN DECLARATION http://thedurbandeclaration.org/
 


HEAL [Health Education AIDS Liason]  
http://www.healtoronto.com   
 
 
ANOTHER LOOK [Breastfeeding and 'HIV/AIDS'] 
http://www.anotherlook.org  
 
MOMM [Mothers Opposing Mandatory Medicine] 
http://www.informedmomm.com  
 
 
ALIVE and WELL  
http://www.aliveandwell.org    
 
 
AIDS MYTH EXPOSED 
[Largest AIDS forum on MSN] 
http://www.aidsmythexposed.com  
 

 
HIV/AIDS ALTERNATIVE VIEWS 
[Only AIDS forum on Delphi] 
http://forums.about.com/innocuous  
 
 
SIGN and READ SIGNATORIES OF THE ONLINE PETITION TO SUPPORT SOUTH AFRICAN
PRESIDENT THABO MBEKI's SEARCH FOR THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DEFINITION, DIAGNOSIS,
CAUSATION AND PREVENTION OF 'HIV/AIDS:'
http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/news/mbeki.htm
 
 

    

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