Subject: FBI Document Says the Feds Can Get Your WhatsApp Data -- in Real Time
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 21:31:03 -0700 (PDT), Chandie Bong <chandler.d.bong@gmail.com> said: 

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> Just set up a whatsapp group... phpBB is a pain in the ass to maintain, 
> you'll not want to have to deal with the BS, and moderation is dumb. more 
> secure, less chance of discovery. Whatsapp also allows for secure message 
> deletion for folks that don't want things traced to them. 
> 
> You can even sign up without a phone number: https://www.techbout.com/whatsapp-without-phone-number-sim-5365/
> 
> still surprised at the use of FTP, Filezilla, and phpBB... it's 2023... 
> use SFTP, secure messaging, and NO 'bulletin boards'...

Documents released to Rolling Stone and ProPublica appear to argue otherwise:

  ProPublica

	WhatsApp assures users that no one can see their messages - but the 
	company has an extensive monitoring operation and regularly shares 
	personal information with prosecutors.

	by Peter Elkind, Jack Gillum and Craig Silverman
	Sept. 7, 2021, 5 a.m. EDT 
	
	[snip]
	
	WhatsApp user data, ProPublica has learned, helped prosecutors build a 
	high-profile case against a Treasury Department employee who leaked 
	confidential documents to BuzzFeed News that exposed how dirty money 
	flows through U.S. banks.
	
	http://p53lf57qovyuvwsc6xnrppyply3vtqm7l6pcobkmyqsiofyeznfu5uqd.onion/article/how-facebook-undermines-privacy-protections-for-its-2-billion-whatsapp-users
	

	Rolling Stone
	
	FBI Document Says the Feds Can Get Your WhatsApp Data -- in Real Time
	
	A previously unreported FBI document obtained by Rolling Stone reveals
	that "private" messaging apps WhatsApp and iMessage are deeply
	vulnerable to law-enforcement searches
	
	By Andy Kroll - November 29, 2021
	
	WASHINGTON -- As Apple and WhatsApp have built themselves into
	multibillion- dollar behemoths, they've done it while preaching the
	importance of privacy, especially when it comes to secure messaging.
	
	But in a previously unreported FBI document obtained by Rolling Stone,
	the bureau claims that it's particularly easy to harvest data from
	Facebook's WhatsApp and Apple's iMessage services, as long as the
	FBI has a warrant or subpoena. Judging by this document, "the most
	popular encrypted messaging apps iMessage and WhatsApp are also the most
	permissive," according to Mallory Knodel, the chief technology officer
	at the Center for Democracy and Technology.
	
	Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg has articulated a "​​privacy-focused
	vision" built around WhatsApp, the most popular messaging service in
	the world. Apple CEO Tim Cook says privacy is a "basic human right" and
	that Apple believes in "giving the user transparency and control," a
	philosophy that extends to the company's wildly popular iMessage app.
	For journalists, activists, and government critics who worry about
	government mass surveillance and political retribution, secure messaging
	tools can mean the difference between doing their work safely or facing
	imminent danger.
	
	While the FBI document raises no questions about the apps' abilities
	to keep out hackers and snoops-for-hire, the paper does describe how
	law-enforcement agencies have multiple legal pathways to extract
	sensitive user data from the most popular secure messaging tools. The
	document -- titled "Lawful Access" and prepared jointly by the bureau's
	Science and Technology Branch and Operational Technology Division --
	offers a window into the FBI's ability to legally obtain vast amounts of
	data from the world's most popular messaging apps, many of which hype
	the security and encryption of their services.
	
	The document, dated Jan. 7, 2021, is an internal FBI guide to what kinds
	of data state and federal law-enforcement agencies can request from
	nine of the largest messaging apps. Legal experts and technologists
	who reviewed the FBI document say that it's rare to get such detailed
	information from the government's point-of-view about law enforcement's
	access to messaging services. "I follow this stuff fairly closely and
	work on these issues," says Andrew Crocker, a senior staff attorney on
	the Electronic Frontier Foundation's civil-liberties team. "I don't
	think I've seen this information laid out quite this way, certainly not
	from the law-enforcement perspective."
	
	After the Cambridge Analytica controversy, when news outlets revealed
	that personal data from more than 50 million Facebook users was
	harvested without their permission to create psychological profiles of
	American voters, Zuckerberg sought to rebrand the social media giant
	as a tech company built around privacy. Facebook intended to make
	that vision a reality largely through the design choices it made with
	WhatsApp, which it had acquired in 2014 for $19 billion. Today, WhatsApp
	is the most popular messaging app in the world with more than 2 billion
	users. "I believe the future of communication will increasingly shift to
	private, encrypted services where people can be confident what they say
	to each other stays secure and their messages and content won't stick
	around forever," he wrote at the time. "This is the future I hope we
	will help bring about."
	
	In the view of the FBI, however, WhatsApp is a wellspring of private
	user data. According to the FBI's "Lawful Access" document, WhatsApp
	will provide more practically real-time information about a user and
	their activities than nearly every other major secure messaging tool.
	A subpoena will yield only basic subscriber information, the FBI
	document says. Presented with a search warrant, WhatsApp will turn over
	address-book contacts for a targeted user as well as other WhatsApp
	users who have the targeted individual in their contacts, according to
	the FBI.
	
	But WhatsApp is unique in how quickly it can produce data to
	law-enforcement agencies in response to a so-called pen register --
	a surveillance request that captures the source and destination of
	each message for a targeted individual. WhatsApp will produce certain
	user metadata, though not actual message content, every 15 minutes in
	response to a pen register, the FBI says. The FBI guide explains that
	most messaging services do not or cannot do this and instead provide
	data with a lag and not in anything close to real time: "Return data
	provided by the companies listed below, with the exception of WhatsApp,
	are actually logs of latent data that are provided to law enforcement
	in a non-real-time manner and may impact investigations due to delivery
	delays."
	
	A WhatsApp spokeswoman confirmed the company's near-real-time responses
	to a pen register. But the spokeswoman added that the FBI document
	omits important context, such as that pen registers for WhatsApp do
	not yield actual message content and only apply in a forward-looking,
	not retroactive, manner. The spokeswoman said the company uses
	end-to-end encryption for the content of users' messages, which means
	law enforcement can't directly access that content, and has defended
	that message encryption in courts around the world. "We carefully
	review, validate, and respond to law- enforcement requests based on
	applicable law, and are clear about this on our website and in regular
	transparency reports," the spokeswoman said. The FBI document, she
	added, "illustrates what we've been saying -- that law enforcement
	doesn't need to break end-to-end encryption to successfully investigate
	crimes."
	
	Even without the ability to legally request message content from
	WhatsApp, however, the metadata provided by WhatsApp to law enforcement
	captures which users talk to one another, when they do it, and which
	other users they have in their address book. The handing over of that
	data can have serious consequences for people who seek truly secure and
	anonymous messaging, such as journalists working with a confidential
	source or activists who face government threats and punishment.
	
	In 2017 and 2018, Buzzfeed News published a series of explosive stories
	about former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, the Russian embassy
	in the U.S., and other high-profile figures that drew on a trove
	of confidential documents from the Treasury Department's Financial
	Crimes Enforcement Network, or FinCEN. In early 2020, a former senior
	FinCEN adviser named Natalie Edwards pled guilty to leaking so-called
	Suspicious Activity Reports to an unnamed reporter, and Edwards later
	said she was a source for Buzzfeed's reporting. A judge later sentenced
	Edwards to six months in prison. According to the FBI's criminal
	complaint in the case and subsequent reporting, Edwards and a Buzzfeed
	reporter exchanged hundreds of messages on WhatsApp, which they believed
	to be a safe place to communicate. Instead, authorities would later use
	those WhatsApp messages to make their case against Edwards.
	
	"WhatsApp offering all of this information is devastating to a reporter
	communicating with a confidential source," says Daniel Kahn Gillmor, a
	senior staff technologist at the ACLU.
	
	Experts stressed that the FBI guide isn't the full scope of law
	enforcement's snooping powers. The document, for instance, doesn't
	touch on what happens when police or federal agents gain access to a
	person's physical device. "For probably all of these platforms, if law
	enforcement gets its hands on somebody's device, no amount of end-to-end
	encryption is going to protect the information on the device," Nathan
	Freed Wessler, deputy director of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and
	Technology Project, says.
	
	The other tech giant that can be compelled by law enforcement to hand
	over potentially large amounts of sensitive messaging data is Apple.
	iMessage, Apple's text-message service, comes loaded on the iPhone and
	is used by 1.3 billion people worldwide. According to the FBI's "Lawful
	Access" guide, if served with a court order or a search warrant, Apple
	must hand over basic subscriber information as well as 25 days' worth of
	data about queries made in iMessage, such as what a targeted user looked
	up in iMessage and also which other people searched for that targeted
	user in the app. That doesn't include actual message content or whether
	messages were exchanged between different users.
	
	But the amount of data available to law enforcement is potentially far
	greater -- greater even than the user data provided by WhatsApp -- if
	a targeted user backs up their iMessage activity to iCloud, Apple's
	online storage platform. If that's the case, the FBI document says, then
	law enforcement can request back-ups of the target's device, including
	actual messages sent and received in iMessage if they're backed up in
	the cloud.
	
	While Apple describes iCloud as an encrypted service, it comes with a
	giant loophole. Apple holds an encryption key that can unlock user data
	in iCloud, and so police departments or federal agencies can request
	that key with a search warrant or a customer's consent to access certain
	user data. "You're handing someone else the key to hold onto on your
	behalf," says Mallory Knodel of the Center for Democracy and Technology.
	"Apple has encrypted iCloud but they still have the keys, and as long as
	they have the key, the FBI can ask for it."
	
	An Apple spokesman declined to comment on the record and referred
	Rolling Stone to Apple's legal-process guidelines, which describe the
	kinds of data the company hands over to law enforcement under certain
	circumstances.
	
	Daniel Kahn Gillmor, the ACLU senior staff technologist, says Apple
	has the ability to implement end-to-end encryption for iCloud.
	But the company reportedly abandoned plans to do so after federal
	law-enforcement agencies put pressure on Apple, saying fully encrypting
	iCloud backups would interfere with the government's investigative
	abilities. "For cloud-based backup providers, they could if they want to
	lock themselves out of their users' data," Gillmor says. "iCloud has not
	made that choice for iMessage backups."
	
	There are several messaging apps listed in the FBI document for which
	minimal data is available to law enforcement without the actual device
	in hand. Signal will provide only the date and time someone signed up
	for the app and when the user last logged into the app. Wickr will
	give law enforcement data about the device using the app, when someone
	created their account, and basic subscriber info, but not detailed
	metadata, the FBI document says.
	
	But the number of users on Signal and Wickr, while growing, pales in
	comparison to WhatsApp and iMessage, which the FBI's own guide describes
	as two of the most permissible secure-messaging apps in existence.
	
	And that imbalance raises questions about the complaints from law-
	enforcement agencies about secure and encrypted messaging apps
	interfering with their ability to investigate crimes. Wessler of the
	ACLU says the FBI's "Lawful Access" should act as a reality check
	the next time police officers or FBI officials insist that encrypted
	messaging hampers their work. "As we can see, [those complaints are]
	completely overblown and not representative of how much information
	they continue to have access to even from these encrypted communication
	platforms," he says.
	
	Property of the People, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit transparency
	group, received the document via a Freedom of Information Act request
	and shared it with Rolling Stone. "Privacy is essential to democracy,"
	says Ryan Shapiro, Property of the People's executive director. "The
	ease with which the FBI surveils our online data, mining the intimate
	details of our daily lives, threatens us all and paves the way for
	authoritarian rule."
	
	https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/whatsapp-imessage-facebook-apple-fbi-privacy-1261816/

    

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