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cmsix wrote:
> "katzmarek" <katzmarek@exciteNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
> news:46b3bb94@clear.net.nz...
>
>>Hi, guys. I know I've been quiet lately. RL circumstances and all that has
>>rendered me a little busy, ATM.
>>
>>I did bash out a little story called 'Pillowtalk' over at SOL recently. It
>>went down okay, I guess, but I didn't recieve as much feedback as I'm used
>>to. Puzzling over this anomaly, a reader did give me a hint.
>>
>>Simply, it didn't end all 'happily ever after.' My main character looked
>>set to make a chump of himself at the end, although I deliberately left it
>>hanging. It seems folks want satisfying conclusions, with villians getting
>>their come-up-ence and the hero getting the girl.
>>
>>Okay, I wanted a story with more a real life conclusion. But perhaps I've
>>erred? Maybe folks really want pure escapism. Maybe they don't want to be
>>reminded that sometimes life sucks? Perhaps they don't want to read about
>>nice guys making fools of themselves?
>>
>>A reader asked for a sequel where all things would be repaired and just
>>desserts dished out in full measure. I've jotted down a few ideas but,
>>frankly, I'm uneasy about it. I'm not really sure there's much of a story
>>left, but I'll kick it around some more and see what I can come up with.
>>
>>Note to cmsix; wtf is this Vick guy of the fighting cocks? Sounds like the
>>French rugby team?
>
>
> Sorry for not explaining more carefully. Michael Vick was the quarterback
> for the Atlanta Falcons - a professional American Football team. He was
> making millions in salary and even more millions in endorsement money until
> just lately when police raieded on of his estates. He didn't live there but
> was 'loaning' it to some of his friends and they used it to raise, train,
> and kill fighting dogs. Further investigation tied him to the 'sport' more
> closely and he was indited on US Federal charges. The 'sport' is not legal
> in the United States.
Ok. Mostly our pro sportsmen get caught having a punch up outside a
nightclub in the wee hours. Sadly, that seems to enhance their
reputation rather than detract.
Dog fighting is an underground 'sport' here. Popular, it seems, with a
certain number of Polynesians. Not high in my list of admirable human
activities.
>
> Sadly for Vick, Nike and others no longer wanted to be associated quite so
> closely with him and he was even suspended from National Football League
> participation until the legal process has run its course.
>
> As far as I know the fighting cocks were just something I threw in since it
> is a similar 'sport.'
Quite. Along with bear-baiting and kitten chucking.
> Now, about the 'happy ending' thing. My best read of the situation at
> StoriesOnline is that most of the readers are of the older persuasion and
> you are probably correct in thinking that they want a happy ending. In fact
> I believe they demand one. It works out well for me since that is usually
> all I'm interested in writing but I fear they won't be enthusiastic about
> anything else, at least I don't think the majority of them will.
>
> cmsix
Yeah, I probably should've known that.
Don
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>>Don
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