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Subject: "Mandy's new day" (ped, inc, m\f) Mandy,a vivacious and growing 10yo,loved her father very
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Mandy's new day
Mandy,a vivacious and growing 10yo,loved her father very
much. Their's was a special relationship,Mandy always like
cuddling with her father John. Every time John was
watching TV Mandy would snuggle next to hIM. She like it
when it was cold at night,they would wrap up in a blanket
and John would put his arm around her and hold her tight.
Mandy's mother Marie worked at night so Mandy loved
spending time with her father. Mandy was out of school for
xmas holiday,it was 6:00p. m. and Marie was getting ready
for work . John saw Marie standing in a pair of panties
and bra. "hi sexy. "John said. Marie was bent over as
John slipped one hand between Marie's legs cupping her
mound. John slowly started rubbing Marie's pussy lip when
they heard "what are you doing"Mandy said. Marie pulled
John's fingers from her wet pussy. "Nothing Mandy"Marie
said. "we were just playing". Turning around Marie told
John I have to leave or I'm going to be late I'll see you
in the morning. Marie finished dressed and kissed her
husband and daughter and left.
"What do you what to watch on TV dad"?Mandy asked.
"Well,Mandy you find what's on and I'm going to take a
shower". John had to walk bent over to take the strain off
his hard dick from fingering Marie. John had just laid
down in the tub and was soading his dick with his hand when
in walked Mandy. John remove his hand from his nine inch
dick but not before Mandy saw what he was doing. Mandy
being a polite and shy girl pretented that she did not
notice her father's long hard cock and preceeded to tell
her father what was on TV. John listened to Mandy and
notice that his daughter kept looking at his cock. Not
being able to will his cock down ;John let the water out of
the tub and turned on the shower. Mandy asked her father
if she could join him in the shower. John not wanting to
appear strang to his daughter told her to grab her night
cothes. While Mandy was gone John thought he could jack
off. but just when he was about to cum the curtain pulled
back and in stepped Mandy. John released his cock and turn
toward the shower. While reaching for the soap Mandy's
hand brushed across John's hard cock,Mandy pretented she
did not notice but John groan. "are you alright daddy" yes
honey. "Mandy handed the soap to her father and asked him
to wash her back. When John turned around his long hard
dick rubbed across her back. John moaned again and notice
how curvaius Mandy's body was. He could see the tan lines
on her cute ass and felt ashame at being turn on by his
nubile daughter. Mandy loved the feel of her father's
hands washing her back. when she stepped back she could
feel his pole rub her back. It was exciting to feel it rub
on her, so Mandy press futher back toward her father and
ask her dad to wash lower. John's breathing faster started
rubbing the soap on Mandy's hips ,gradually he found his
hand slidings on Mandy's soft buttocks,before he could stop
himself his fingers slip between the cheeks of Mandy's
Mandy's breath caught when she felt her father's fingers
rubbing against the opening of her ass,while all the time
she felt his hard cock rubbing her back. Mandy became
excite at being rubbed ;spread her leg apart to let her
father wash her better. Mandy moaned As he continued
rubbing, he began exerting more and more pressure .
John steadly rubbing his daughter ass felt Mandy spread her
leg. Before he knew it John was rubbing his fingers across
the lips of Mandy pussy. He could feel the clept as one of
his fingers slid through the opening. John loved how soft
her pussy felt and started sliding his finger deeper
between Mandy's pussy lips.
As he continued rubbing, exerting more and more pressure
until his finger slipped between the folds of her tender
young pussy lips.
Mandy moaned and arched her hips slightly forward, causing
his finger to continue into her tight little hole. He
finger fucked her for several minutes, gently inserting his
finger up to the last knuckle and then slowly pulling it
almost all the way out. He felt the muscles in her cunt
tighten just slightly, her whole body seemed to tense up
for a moment and then relax.
As Mandy pussy adjusted to the finger John started pushing
his finger into her faster,all the time pressing his dick
into her back. A,Mandy just leaned against the shower with
her legs spread so her father could push his fingers into
her. when he heard Mandy moan John felt his hard cock
explode on Mandy's back,John pressed his dick hard against
her back till the last drop squeezed out. Then slowly John
removed his finger out of Mandy's cunt. John felt ashame
for what he had done and dried off and left the bath room
after slipping on his robe.
An hour later, Mandy came into the livingroom and wearing a
very short and sheer teddy ,sat down on the couch with her
father. John was glad that Mandy did not act as if any
thing had happen. "Daddy my thing burns"John asked what
thing ? Mandy stood up lifting her gown pointing at her
pussy. "Did I wash you to hard"?"No daddy, but it just
feels funny". John not knowing what to do told her to
bring the KY off his dressor. When Mandy return John told
her to remove her panties and lay down. John knealing on
the floor started rubbing lotion on Mandy"pink puffy
pussy,before he knew it John felt his dick growing hard and
peeking out of his robe. As John was rubbing his fingertip
between the lips of Mandy's pussy he asked her if the
burning has stop. "yes"Daddy the lotion made it feel good.
John couldn't believe how soft Mandy's pussy felt. Easing
her pussy lips apart John slowly inserted his finger.
gradually going deeper until he felt her hymen,John slowly
widen Mandy'hymen until finger was buried to the hilt.
Mandy just laid there with legs spread wide. At this
time,John removed his fingers and went to watch TV in his
room.
Five minutes later Mandy climb into bed next to her
father,John always laid in bed nude and Mandy always like
to sleep with her parents. John's dick was still hard from
rubbing Mandy's pussy ,he turn on his back to keep from
rubbing it against Mandy. when all of sudden Mandy who was
behind John placed her hand on John's stomach. John could
feel her hand barely touching the head of his dick. Mandy
involved in watching TV never moved her hand. After a
couple of minutes, John reached over and took a sip of
coke,when leaning back Mandy's hand accidently slid down
until the head of her fathers dick was in her hand. Mandy
gasp when she realized that she was actuatly holding her
father's dick. Mandy not wanting to get in trouble left
her hand where it was ,every time her father's dick twitch,
it lifted her hand ,her hand slowly wrapped around his
dick. John breathing quicken as he felt Mandy's hand
wrapped around his dick. John was scared, here he was
laying in bed with nine inch of rock hard cock and his ten
year old daughter had a firm grip on his dick. John slowly
started to move his hips very lightly,Mandy not knowing
what to do tighten her grip on her dad's dick. John
feeling Mandy's grip tighten increased the force of hips.
Mandy being nieve started stroking her hand up and down her
father's dick. IT felt strang to her tiny hand,her
father's dick was soft yet very hard. she started stroking
her hand faster and faster,she was glad that her father
seem to enjoy it when she squeeze his dick tight,before she
knew it her father wrap a towel around her hand and started
moving her hand faster up and down his dick. Mandy felt
her hand getting wet under the towel when all of sudden her
father removed her hand. Mandy thought she was in trouble
when her father pulled her close and kissed her goodnight.
Mandy felt relieved that her father was not mad and snuggle
up close to her father and went to sleep. John at first
felt bad that he let his little girl jack him off but
thought it won't happen again.
Two hours latter John awoke with a raging hard on,he was
still groggy from sleep when he snuggle closer to his wife
and place his dick between her leg. she was all curled up
in a ball with her back to him. John groan when he felt
how wet she was ,his long dick was sliding against her
pussy lips,it felt very tight with her legs close. Mandy
awoke when she felt her father's hard dick slide between
her legs. Mandy had left on the KY and it was very slick
between her legs. She felt his dick rubbing between the
lips of her pussy. Mandy did not move for fear of waking
her father so she stayed very stilled and let her father
rub his dick against her pussy. Meanwhile,John started
moving his dick faster against her pussy,when he felt that
he was about to cum he gripped Mandy around the waist and
tilted his hips placing the head of his cock right at the
opening of Mandy's pussy. John pushed his hips forward and
felt it slip into Mandy's pussy The entire head of his cock
was slick with pre-cum. He took his cock and ran the tip
of it up and down the hairless folds of her tiny young cunt
until he couldn't stand it any longer. He positioned
himself at the entrance of her tender pussy and gently
pushed in an effort to get his cock into her tight little
hole. The outer lips of her cunt separated and surrounded
just the very tip at first, but as he continued to push he
felt the tight walls of her tiny pussy begin to give and
watched as the head of his cock slowly slip inside.
Mandy gasped and her eyelids closed slowly. Her head was
tipped back and her mouth was open slightly. She was
breathing very rapidly. He continued to push his way
inside her. The walls of her cunt gripped tightly around
his cock making the journey very slow. At that
monent,fully awake, John realize his dick was going into
his little girl's pussy. John was too horny to stop and
started pushings his dick deeper into Mandy. Mandy bit
down onto her hand to keep from screaming when she felt the
fat head of her father'scock split her tiny pussy open.
Mandy didn't want to wake her father so she gritted her
teeth and let her father fuck the head of his dick into
her. John not being able to go in any deeper decided to
pretend he was screwing his wife. "loosen up Marie,I can't
get my dick into your pussy". Mandy was shock that her
father thought it was her mother. Mandy in pain with such
a large dick in her slowly lifted her leg,John was thrilled
when he felt his sweet daughter lift her leg and slammed
his dick into Mandy. when he did two solid inch of her
father's dick slid into her pussy ripping her hymen to
threads. Mandy yelled before she could stop herself,John
felt his dick erupt into Mandy's tight pussy. As load
after load flowed into Mandy's pussy;John thrust an inch
deeper,Mandy held her breath as she felt her Dad's dick
throbbing in her. Mandy was glad when she felt her fathers
cock soften inside her pussy. John after shooting all his
cum into Mandy's pussy was totally afraid of what he had
just did,he could not believe that he hadjust fucked his
little girl. After getting his thoughts together ,John put
his arms around Mandy and ask her if she was okay. Mandy
whisper yes just sleepy,and snuggle into John's arms and
when to sleep.
John awoke early the next morning and found his wife at the
table,how was your night Marie,"It was okay. John why is
Mandy's panties on the floor next to the KY?""Mandy said
her pussy was burning so it was all I had to put on it.
"Did you get a hard on John. "John sheepishly look down
and told Marie she did leave him with a hard on. Marie was
just about to suggest a blow job when Mandy came down and
hug her mother. John was glad that Mandy was acting her
same old self but was horrified to see dried com between
Mandy's thighs. As Mandy walk away to get dress John and
Marie could see her cute little ass showing. "That little
minx does not care about nudity does she,John. "John choke
out a no and was glad Marie hadn't mention anything about
the dried sperm between Mandy's legs. Marie turned and
went to bed.
Later that night, while laying in bed Marie started rubbing
John's big hard cock,Marie turned to John and asked him
about the dried sperm on the bed,John tense to the
question. When Marie ask "Did you get get turn on by
Mandy's naked little butt rubbing against your big hard
dick"?,John didn't answer as Marie squeezed her hand up and
down John dick. Marie had bent over and was licking the
head of John's dick when they heard Mandy standing by the
bed ask if she could sleep with them. Marie took her mouth
off of John dick but kept her hand wrap around the shaft.
running her hand up and down the shaft of his cock where
Mandy could get a good veiw. John became embarished having
his dick stroked inches from Mandy face. John told his
wife that she should not be doing this in front of Mandy.
Marie asked Mandy if John's dick bothered her,Mandy blushed
and shooked her head no. Marie told Mandy to place her
hand around John's dick. John started to tell Mandy no
when Marie said Yes. Mandy placed her small around her
father's fat dick,John gasp at her touch,he could not
believe Marie was doing this. Mandy started stroking her
hand up and down her father's dick. John felt that he was
about to cum with Mandy's hand squeezing his dick. John
whisper into Marie ear that he wanted to cum,Marie told
John that they would finished after Mandy went to sleep.
John groan and said okay.
While walking Mandy to her room ,Marie ask Mandy if her
pussy still burned like last night ,Mandy blushed and said
just alittle. Marie pulled Mandy's shortest and most
sheerish baby doll and told her to remove her panties.
After slipping on the nightgown Mandy laid down and spread
her legs. Marie was shock at how puffy Mandy's pussy
was,but preceeded to apply a generous amount of KY all over
Mandy's pussy,once just to see, Marie slip her finger
between the lips and was shock to see her finger slid in
all the way. after applying plenty of KY into and around
Mandy's pussy,Marie told Mandy lets go to bed. Marie also
told Mandy that she wanted her to lay on top of her dad and
show him how much she love him. She explained to marie
that little girls should always be nice to their father's
an hug them tight,Marie told her not to get off of him till
her father told her too.
Marie climb beside her husband and kissed him goodnight but
not before stroking his dick a couple of times and making
him rock hard. Mandy being a loving child did what her
mother said and climb on to her father's lap underneath the
blanket and bent to hug her father. Marie hand was rubbing
johns balls and the base of his dick. While rubbing his
dick she was telling him about tomorrow's trip. Acting
sly,marie casually lifted john's dick up between Mandy's
legs. Mandy felt when her mother moved his dick,her pussy
was press against her father's hard cock,but she continued
lay pressed up on top of her father. John groan at the
contact of his daughter's pussy' and pressed against
Mandy's pussy,he wrapped his hands around her in a tight
hug and brought her pussy tight against his big cock. John
prayed Marie's hand stayed on his balls. Mandy felt
herself being press down until she felt the head of her
fathers cock press lightly between her pussy lip. ,but
pretented that nothing was the matter. John made small
talk with Marie while slyly pressing his dick up against
Mandy's pussy. Finally John felt the head of his dick
spread Mandy's pussy and slide inside. Her tight pussy
clasped the head of his dick in a vice. He acted like he
was adjusting his hips ,which launch another inch into
mandy's tight pussy. Marie rubbing on his balls was making
the head of his dick ride back in forth in Mandy's cunt.
Before John could stop himself John groaned and his dick
exploded into Mandy's pussy. Marie felt his dick throbbing
and knew that he just shot a huge load of sperm into
Mandy's pussy. When John felt the last drop shoot into
mandy,he knew that marie had to know. Marie whispered into
john ear"She made you cum on her stomach ,didn't she"John
nodded yes"Don't be embarish,I know you were hot and at
least it wasn't in her"John nodded his head with relief and
told Mandy to go to sleep. As Mandy raised up to turn John
gasp as another inch slid in her tight pussy then she was
off. Marie squeezed her husband dick and rolled over to
sleep.
After an hour of pressing his hard dick against his wife's
soft ass John turned over on his side and without realizing
it felt his hard dick press up against his daughter's ass.
John not wanting to wake his wife pressed forward until the
head of his dick was wedge between the cheeks of Mandy's
ass. John knew it was wrong to feel like this but he just
wanted to fuck Mandy one more time. His dick throbbed as
it slid between the wet cheeks of her ass. After a couple
of minutes of pressing against Mandy's ass John tensed when
he felt his wife hand slide around him. John are you
hard,she asked as her hand slid down his belly to his cock.
John started to say something when her hand wrapped around
his hard dick ,as Marie stroked her hand up John's dick she
felt where the head was lodged in Mandy's butt. "Did Mandy
make your dick hard honey",John just groan . He started to
turn over when Marie told him to lay still. "I know she
got you excite here let me help you rub it against her soft
little ass". John was shock when he felt Marie start
sliding the head of his dick between the cheeks of Mandy's
ass. Mandy felt her mother rub her fathers dick between
her butt ,but didn't want to let them know she was awake
for fear of being made to go back to her bed. John was
getting very nervious and told Marie they better stop
before they woke Mandy up. Marie told John to relax that
she was sleeping and it would take just a minute. After
acouple of minutes of rubbing his his dick against Mandy's
pussy lips. John told Marie that if they did not stop he
was going to cum. Marie told john don't waist your
load,and preceeded to place the hesd of john's cick between
the lips of mandy's pussy. John loosen up and let Marie
guide his dick down between Mandy's legs. "push your
hips",Maries whispered. John completely lost to feeling of
his daughter's soft pussy and the stroking of his wife's
hand pushed his hips forward, Mandy's pussy being so
lubercated spread easily around the head of her father's
cock. Marie started jacking harder on John dick while
pushing him forward. "Does this feel good John". Marie
asked. yes!"then push a little more"John wrapped his arm
around Mandy and pulled her little soft body to his,and
with a slight tilt shoved two inch into her pussy. Mandy
grunted but laid still. John lost to the feeling of
Mandy"s pussy wrapped around his dick started humping his
hips in and out each time more of his dick slid into Mandy.
Her pussy grip his dick like a glove. John started forcing
more of his big dick into Mandy's tight pussy,steadly
pulling her deeper onto his dick. When he had six inch
into her,John started fucking his dick in and out of
Mandy's pussy. It was so tight that John's dick exploded,
shooting gallons of hot cum into Mandy's tight pussy.
Marie felt John dick shooting cum into Mandy's pussy and
stroked his dick until John finished. Mandy could feel her
dad's cum squirting deep in her pussy,she continued to play
asleep while her father pump his dick deep in her,She had
never felt so spread. Marie kissed John's and told him
make sure you pull out of her before morning. Mandy went
right back to sleep with her fathers dick trap in her
pussy.
Next morning John found his wife at the stove cooking
breakfast. "Marie I don't know what to say"he said". Then
don't as long as you enjoyed it,but honey I want you to
fuck her today in the car and see how far she'll go'.
Marie said with a smile". But Marie she doesn't know what
happen. "I know,but just try". Just then Mandy came down
the stairs,there was dried sperm between her legs. "Did
you sleep okay Mandy"her mother said with a smile.
"yes"Mandy blushed. "Go a head and get a bath so we can
go. ""See John, everything is okay. "John smile and left
to get dressed. While dressing John slip on a loose pair
of slacks without underwear. Marie was in the bathroom
with Mandy. "Mandy lets put on some more KY just to be
safe and no under wears this weekend to let air between
your legs. "Marie pick out A short blue pleted skirt for
Mandy and then brushed her long blond hair into a ponytail.
After Mandy finished dressing,Marie had laid her down on
the bed with her legs spread wide. Marie was shock to see
how wide Mandy's pussy was,as she applied the KY on Mandy's
pussy,she gradually ran her fingertip across the the
clit,then running her finger through the lips Marie started
slipping her finger into Mandy's pussy. working her finger
in and out until it was all the way in. Mandy gasp as she
felt her mom's finger slide in and out,without realizing it
Mandy started lifting her hips to increase the feeling of
her mother finger going deep into her,,just when Mandy was
starting to enjoy it, her mother told her to go get into
the car.
Mandy climbed into the front seat with her dad because the
backseat was full with luggage. Marie started out driving
to the cabin for their vacation. While driving Marie
notice that John had place his hand on Mandy's thigh,she
also could see a tent in his pants. Mandy all this time
was involved in a coloring book in her lap. After about
five minutes John reached on the floorboard and pulled a
coke out of the ice chest,while sitting back his hand
casually slid up Mandy's skirt. Mandy pretented to not
notice that her father's hand was an inch from her pussy.
John could feel the KY between his daughter's legs. While
his daughter continue to color John lightly started rubbing
his finger on her thigh gradually sliding his fingers
upward. Finally John's small finger brushed up against the
lips of Mandy"s pussy. He heard Mandy take in a deep
breath but she continued to color. John started rubbing
his finger up and down Mandy's slit,increasing with
pressure until the tip of his small finger entered between
her pussy lip. Marie kept watching out of her eye,she was
suprised at how calm Mandy was. John becoming bolder
inserted his finger all the way inside Mandy's pussy,her
pussy was so wet and hot John started running his finger in
and out,rubbing her clit every time his finger shoved into
her slit. Marie finally pulled on the side of the road.
John, thinking Marie had changed her mind quickly pulled
his finger from Mandy's wet pussy. "What wrong dear".
John asked. "Nothing,I just need to get these
pamplets,Mandy would mind sitting in your father's lap so
my papers don't get wrinkled. Mandy thinking nothing of
sitting in her fathers lap said okay. While Mandy was
gathering up her crayons John casually unzipped his pants.
Mandy after climbing into her father's lap resumed her
coloring. she was leaned forward over her page when she
felt her her father's dick getting hard between her legs.
Suddenly John stretched his legs, which popped his hard
dick out of his pants and between Mandy's legs. Mandy with
her legs spraddle on each side of her fathers thighs felt
when her father's dick slap up against her pussy,she could
feel the head of his big dick laying against her stomach
under her skirt. After a couple of minutes of having his
dick laying against Mandy's wet pussy,John pulled Mandy up
next to him and told her to lean back to take the pressure
off his legs. Mandy ever obedeint,lean back and let her
father adjust her in lap. John lifted Mandy up in his lap
slowly feeling his dick slide down her stomach until it was
pressed right against her pussy lips. Then he told her to
stay like that for a while. Mandy sucked in her breath
when she felt her fathers big hard dick press against her
pussy lips. Marie looked over and ask her if any thing was
the matter. Mandy not wanting to be a problem told her
mother no and pretented to color. Meanwhile,John spread
his legs to widen Mandy's thigh. As he widen her legs John
felt Mandy's pussy lips spread around the tip of his dick.
John lifted his hips slowly until he felt the head of his
dick totally surrounded by Mandy's pussy. Mandy breath
quicken as she felt her father's dick split her pussy but
acted like nothing was the matter. John let out a silent
groan at how tight Mandy's pussy felt. He held still to
let Mandy's tight pussy acommidate his big dick. Mandy
being in an akward position tried to stiffen her legs to
keep from having more dick slide into her,but after A while
Mandy felt her legs weaken. When her legs grown tired
Mandy relaxed and gradually settle down on her fathers hard
dick. John felt when Mandy legs loose and shoved up slowy
until two more inches shoved up into her . It felt great
the way Mandy's pussy clasp his dick. John casaully lifted
Mandy up then let her slide down,he felt another two inches
slide into her tight wet pussy. John wanted to see how
much Mandy could take so slid his hands under her legs and
lifted Mandy until her little pussy was posed right over
his dick. "Here, Mandy let me move you off this leg.
"Marie look over with a smile when she saw what John was
about to do. Mandy held her breath when she felt her
father lift her over his dick,she was glad it was dark and
her mother could not see. Mandy felt stuff with four
inches of her fathers dick in her,but gasp when he slowly
eased her down unto his big dick. John not wanting to hurt
his little girl ,slowly eased her unto his dick. He felt
his fat dick spread her pussy lips down around his hugh
dick. John groan when he felt two more inches spear into
her pussy. Mandy could not believe how spread she felt.
John was able to get seven hard inches into Mandy's tiny
tight pussy before he bottum out. Mandy was afraid to move
with such a big dick in her. She felt like her pussy was
split wide open. John held his dick buried deep into
Mandy's belly,she was so tight he could not move. after a
while John tried to move his dick within Mandy's pussy but
couldn't because Mandy's pussy had clamp down on his dick.
John tried to withdraw his dick but Mandy grunted and John
knew he was stuck tight in her pussy until he shot his
load. After fifteen minutes John knew he could not cum
with Mandy's pussy so tight around his dick and just laid
still. Marie wander why John stop,so she pulled over into
a private area and asked Mandy to come sit by her. "I
can't mom"Mandy said with her head down. Mandy began to
cry and Marie ask her what was wrong . "you'll be mad with
me. "Mandy cried. "I promise I won't. "Mandy looked down
at her lap. "Oh," Marie said. and gradually slid her hand
under Mandy's skirt until she felt Mandy's little pussy
spread around John big dick. "Were struck,honey. "John
said. Marie couldn't help but laugh. Marie made John lay
his seat back wrapped her hand around the base of his dick
and started to pull his dick out of Mandy's pussy until she
felt it move out an inch. Mandy was glad when she felt her
father's dick start sliding out and began to climb off his
lap when mother told to stay where she was. Marie
explained to Mandy that it would be better to leave her
father's dick in her and might be better if she slid up and
down on his dick. Mandy believed her mother and place her
hand on her fathers lap and with help from her mother,
slowly raised her pussy till just the head of his dick was
in her pussy. And then with a deep breath Mandy slowly
eased her pussy down the shaft of his dick. It felt so big
in her pussy. John was in heaven,in his position he saw
Mandy's cute little butt and his big dick lodge in her
pussy. As Mandy slid down his dick John started lifting
his hips up impaling hiself into her tight pussy. John
felt Mandy's pussy loosen and grabbed her around the hips
and shoved every inch of his hard dick into her pussy and
shot a hugh load of cum into Mandy's cunt. Mandy was shock
when all nine inches ripped into her pussy,she tried to
pull off but her father was holding her tight. Mandy felt
his dick twitching inside her cunt,then she felt his cream
flowing down her thighs. Mandy set very still on her
father's dick and felt it loosen inside her. Finally her
mother pulled her off and asked her if that felt better.
Mandy nodded as they preceeded to drive to the cabin.
Mandy pussy still felt stuff.
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