Subject: Predator Debate (MF, Mf) Written by: Byron Chase Posted by: Kelly -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- !!!WARNING!!!! This file is a work of fiction containing sexually explicit material which may include depictions of underage, nonconsensual and unprotected sex as well as incest and adultery. It is not intended to implicate any person or action by them or me, nor advocate such practices. If you can't separate fantasy from reality, get professional help - FAST! The material is distributed as "For Adults Only" and possession by a minor is strictly forbidden. If you are not legally empowered to be in possession of this material, do not read it and delete it immediately. This work is copyrighted to the author ©2010. It may be posted to non-commercial "free" sites, or in the "free" area of commercial sites so long as no changes are made AND the author information is retained. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary: Now and then I get into an e-mail discussion with someone that is interesting and thought-provoking. This is an example of such an instance. It also raises some interesting points which I may pursue further in my web site. What do you think? Feel free to weigh in with your opinion. *************** Hi, I just finished reading your pedophile mom stories, and as with most of the stories you write, I very much enjoyed them. As you've probably heard before, I like many others like reading taboo stories-- cuckhold, incest, etc. I'm not much into rape and science fiction, but I like to see stories that explore the often not so acceptable side our sexual lives. I also appreciate how you provide a warning about your stories. While I know your stories, and others like them, are fantasy/fiction, I worry that many guys can get the wrong idea and cross the line. Though I've only seen the show once, To Catch a Predator seems to be a great example of how Internet stories, chatrooms, etc. can get guys into trouble. State authorities, and the media, try to make the case that there are lots of young girls and older guys meeting online and then meeting for sex, so they set up ways to entrap potential pedophiles. But what they end up doing is creating a crime that didn't exist before. I know that pedophiles do exist and they do prey on children, but often times guys get simply caught up in a fantasy, lose their sense of judgment, and either cross the line for real or get entrapped by cops or other sting operations. Anyway, what I'm saying is, while I do want to read more of your stuff, please keep warning readers about the potential dangers of Internet sex activities—be it reading stories, chatting online, or sending photos. Too many guys, and maybe some women, are being arrested and having their destroyed behind making the wrong decisions. Some of what the State is doing is about protecting children, while at other times they go too far and simply are taking advantage of the weaknesses that some people have when it comes to sex. I'm looking forward to reading more of your stories. I'm not sure if I can believe that you're a student teacher, a church goer, and a child of incest. Lol It's hard to believe that when you write so many stories and post your picture online. But anyway, it would be nice to see a picture of "Maria"--the mom. Not interested in seeing a pic of her daughter of course, but would like to see the pic of Maria. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read my long letter. Appreciate your work. Byron ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:35:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly To: Byron Chase Subject: Re: pedophile mom stories Thanks Byron, glad you liked it. I have to admit, I don't share your empathy for those perverts on TV. I see it as if they hadn't done it then, they would have someday so better to catch them now then wait for it to be done to a real girl. In all cases, they were the ones to initiate the chat so it's not like they can claim entrapment. Personally, the only problem with it I have is that they don't just shoot them on the spot and clean up the gene pool! Have you fantasized about doing a girl like Lisa. Why would it turn you on since she would not enjoy it sexually. My opinion is that the girls in child porn are doing it to please someone, not because they truly enjoy it. There can be a lot of enjoyment expressed, but it's not what you think it is when you watch it. People forget how strong the desire can be in a young child to please their parents, regardless of what it is. Thoughts? Kelly ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:56:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Byron Chase To: Kelly Subject: Re: pedophile mom stories Kelly, I'm very troubled by the fact that you don't have sympathy for those "perverts" who get caught, especially in entrapment cases. I mean, most of your stories are about incest and sex between men and girls. You write as if some of these stories are true. And yet, you have a problem with men who actually get caught and arrested for engaging the very type of stuff you write about. A strong case could be made that your stories are contributing to the fantasies that many of these guys. I suggest you sign onto the sex offender Yahoo group and talk some of these perverts you despise Their stories are not black and white as you portray. And the Christian ideaology of once a sinner, always a sinner does not apply to all sex offenders or pedophiles. People make mistakes and they can be helped. As for myself, I read stories like yours in same way I might look at a scary movie. Just because I read those stories doesn't' mean I want to go out and have sex with girls or slash someone's throat. And just because a guy fantasies about being with a girl doesn't mean it will always happen. The cops are helping to create a crime that might not ever take place. Why can't they actually catch guys who really are meeting girls online and having sex? Where are all those guys and girls they they say exist? I don't there lots of girls out there willing to meet with older men online. If they want to have sex, they can do with their peers just as easy. No, what I think is that cops and the media know that the Internet can cause some people to get engage fantasies that they might not otherwise act out in real life, and thus they take advantage of that. Your stories are fantasies and obviously they attract the very people who criticize. I agree with you that no 7+yro girl can enjoy sex, especially if she doesn't understand it. I guess that's why you make the girl in your story to be a mute. Are you trying to make a point? If you are, you have an interesting way of doing it. Your story will be read by most as good jerk off story. And I think you know that. Though it may be twisted, it's almost the same way people get off on reading and watching horror stories. They stories are twisted, but people get off on them. Thanks for taking the time to write back. And thanks for the dialogue. ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:23:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly To: Byron Chase Subject: Re: pedophile mom stories--more to the point? I think you miss my point. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone fantasizing about anything - and I mean ANYTHING. I may not share those fantasies but then I don't like the same food as everyone either. It's when someone crosses the line that I have an issue. Any man traveling to a house to meet a 14 yo girl to have sex has crossed the line, regardless of the temptation or opportunity given to him. No excuses - period. Do you really believe all of them when they say they've never done it before? The fact is, THEY decided to do it and nobody forced them to do a thing. Note that at first I refused the request from Maria to write the stories, at least in the manner she desired. Also, the characters (including Lisa being mute) and plot were all based on HER situation as she described it to me, not my imagination. Trust me, if anything it was a tame version of what she wanted me to write! I ended up deciding to write the stories hoping that it would illustrate what can happen when someone gets pulled into the world of pornography and crosses that line between fantasy and reality. I never intended to glamorize underage sex or glorify the actions portrayed. I have been accused of hypocrisy and maybe at times correctly. For instance, I believe adultery to be a cardinal sin and would never tolerate my future husband engaging in it, yet I love having sex with married men. I guess again it comes down to THEY make the decision to cheat on their wife, not me. I don't force them to fuck me, I don't rape them. I enjoy it be and figure any problems they may face later are THEIR problems, not mine. As for younger kids, the youngest boy I ever had sex with was 16 - not exactly an infant and I didn't go hunting him down, he was already doing my cousin. The youngest girl was 18 (I don't count my cousin, that's an entirely different situation). I may look and be tempted, but I don't cross the line. Even then, all that is with people I meet and know personally, never from on-line. I refuse to even exchange email or chat with anyone under 18 - that's why if you chat with me the first thing I do is ask your age. I didn't mean to upset you. Many people find that when they get to know me, I am a good deal more religious and conservative than they expected. I was raised to treat sex respectfully and responsibly and that's what I hope is illustrated through my actions in my diary. Hope to hear more from you, Kelly ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Byron Chase To: Kelly Subject: Re: pedophile mom stories--more to the point? Well, Kelly, to each his own. I guess, we can we all find ways to justify our actions and beliefs. When you say you didn't write the story to glamorize sex, then you are sadly mistaken. lol If you take a poll on your site, you will find that most of your readers jerkoffed to your story, just like I did. But maybe it's twisted that I should get off on your stories. I would never have sex with child, and so perhaps I shouldn't be reading and jerkingoff to stories about underage sex. And perhaps you shouldn't be writing them. lol Seems like you should be writing expository essays about underage sex. Essays that clearly make the point that you're trying to get across. Because believe me, girlfriend, your readers get off on your stories. Take the poll and find out. Here's my yahoo IM (byron6555) if you have a little time to chat or want to. I realize that you must get several emails a day, so I understand if you can't keep up with the responses. But as someone who has an open mind like yourself, and who lives your life in contradictory ways, you really should visit the sex offender group. You could learn a lot from reading what the offenders and many of their family members have to say. As for you having sex with married men, well just shows you how sex, gender, age, and so forth get so twisted. Christian morality is often way out of touch with the way human beings (animals) really are. Evolutionary biology has much more to teach us about who we are as human beings. I'm not even sure why you are Christian. You're way out of line with the theology of Christianity, so why even believe in it? But anyway, that's the human condition. P.S., where's Maria's picture? lol I'm curious. ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:27:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kelly To: Byron Chase Subject: More about sex Well, we're getting closer to understanding each other. You need to understand that I don't care at all that men jerk off to what I write or what fantasies they may trigger. In fact, I have to admit I'd be a little disappointed if they didn't! I just hope that they are all like you - use them for jerking off but stop a that. I DO take exception to your comment on my religious beliefs. I feel I am a committed and strong Christian and fail to see how anything I do is in conflict with that. As for sex with married men, THEY are the sinners, not me! Thanks for getting back, Kelly ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Byron Chase To: Kelly Subject: Re: More about sex Well, Kelly, I won't debate with you about these issues because I know you've probably heard it all before. But I will say that when you talk about having sex with married men, it reminds me of the time I had sex with a young woman (22yro). We were in the hotel room, and it was about the third time we had been together. So in the course of the conversation, she told me that her mother had asked why she had sex with me when she knew I was a married man. She said she told her that if my wife were doing her job, I wouldn't be in bed with her. My cock must of grew another inch when she said that. Just the way she said it— all serious—just made me grind and bang her as hard as I could. She had been the first one to let me cum in her mouth as she sucked me. And I'll never get it out of my head the smile she made when swallowed my cum down her throat. Almost every time I came inside her she smiled. That's what real sex is all about. Marriage often makes sex too constricting. That's one reason marriage is deeply overrated. I love my wife. I really do, but it's simply too hard to have sex with just one woman. The variety of women out there make the variety they offer too good to pass up. I think many women, not all, know this about us men. We don't act alone in what we do. You know it's hard to turn down pussy--it's in our nature. The Christian church has understood our nature for thousands of years, but all the sin it preaches and all the laws it influences simply isn't enough to stop what comes natural to men and women. The Catholic church is the worse, for it influenced men to become celebate, and that's simply in our nature. So many of the priest got twisted ideas and turned to boys and girls, when what they really should not have doing suppressing nature. As for young girls, in another era of time and in some cultures it would be okay for a 13yro girl to marry an older man. But things change and we try to struggle with our ideas about sex and how it should be done. Many people want to police the behaviors of others, while others want to profit from our lusts. And even more of us simply can't understand fully our desires, our urges, or even our guilt when it comes to sex. If there is god, he certainly let something weird slip into the sex gene, because sex cause so many of men and women much pleasure, pain, and guilt that it simply couldn't have been well thought out by the supreme being. So in the 21st century we still struggle to comes to grips with who we are as sexual beings. We have a long way to go. We really do. Take care. Byron ******************************************************************************** From: Kelly To: Byron Chase Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Fucking Married Men Wow, what you said about that girl you fucked was EXACTLY how I feel when I fuck a married man. I love the look on there faces when I fulfill their fantasies - which in many cases is as simple as sucking their dicks and letting them cum in my mouth! It is the same when they cum in me. I love the feeling of them releasing themselves in me, giving me something that SHOULD be given only to their wives. Sounds like you seem to understand how girls like us feel as well and I think that's so cool as most men don't get it (they just think they're great lovers!) Thanks, Kelly ******************************************************************************** Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:47:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Byron Chase To: Kelly Subject: Re: Fucking Married Men Kelly, this is the last response for while. Don't want you to grow quickly tired of my emails. But, you're the type of woman that many men want. That's why we cheat because they're women out there that understand us better. I think men don't always understand what a woman really wants. A women wants to be in touch with her feminine side. She wants to feel a little submissive when it comes to men. She wants him to take charge in sex, and she wants her pussy very much penetrated. When I cum inside a woman, I make sure that I'm buried as deep as I can be when I let lose, for I know that she wants to feel the cum inside her. Again, it's a part of her nature. And it's the man whose cock just gets super charged by the right woman. If I get a slutty enough woman, my cock will grow rock hard. The mushroom head of my cock will get very thick, and I'll control it at least for an hour. Or if I do cum quietly, I remain hard and keep fucking for at least hour before cum again. I think slutty women are the best gift to men. I understand that women need to be mothers and ladies, but the slutty woman is just as important. And I'm glad that you understand that and write about it. Don't think you have to write back, unless you just feel like. I appreciate what emails you have sent so far. Thanks. Take care, Byron