Message-ID: <50366asstr$1107378601@assm.asstr-mirror.org> Return-Path: <cobillard@hotmail.com> X-Original-To: ckought69@hotmail.com Delivered-To: ckought69@hotmail.com X-Original-Message-ID: <BAY103-DAV1836C24DF194C1B8CDE1FBBF7E0@phx.gbl> X-Originating-Email: [cobillard@hotmail.com] User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/10.1.1.2418 From: Carol <cobillard@hotmail.com> X-Original-Message-ID: <BE2640AE.4AFE0%cobillard@hotmail.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2005 08:33:00.0598 (UTC) FILETIME=[CE050560:01C50901] X-ASSTR-Original-Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:32:46 +0000 Subject: {ASSM} Afterthoughts: The Davidito Book and the Children of God sex Lines: 1092 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:10:01 -0500 Path: assm.asstr-mirror.org!not-for-mail Approved: <assm@asstr-mirror.org> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d X-Archived-At: <URL:http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2005/50366> X-Moderator-Contact: ASSTR ASSM moderation <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Story-Submission: <ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Moderator-ID: hoisingr, dennyw The murder-suicide of Ricky Rodriguez ("Davidito") -- his killing of Angela Smith and his own suicide -- prompted a number of calls to me from friends aware of my past asking how the new publicity about the Children of God child sex scandals related to my own stories. Here are the news clippings: http://www.angelfire.com/co4/cobil/nyt_cog.htm http://www.angelfire.com/co4/cobil/lsuntimes_davidito.htm This additional essay takes the opportunity of the new publicity about the CoG (also known as The Family) to put into perspective what I have been saying about my own childhood among women who had been with the Church, gone flirty fishing for it, and later abandoned it. My previous essays, and two articles recently published, and a number of Web sites are good sources for information about the religious-sexual side of the CoG, and the evolution of their practices with respect to children and children's sexual activity. You can Google "Davidito book" and find more; it recorded in some detail the upbringing, especially the sexual stimulation and upbringing, of Ricky, and excerpts of it appear here and there on the Web. These are a few descriptive and documentary sites: http://www.thefamily.org/dossier/books/book1/chapter4.htm http://factnet.org/cults/children_of_god http://countercog.excult.org http://www.religioustolerance.org/fam_love.htm For those who dispute the validity of any church which makes sex a part of its theology and its sacraments, I can only say that all churches do it: sex is a part of every religion, although he message is mixed these days, given the thrust of political correctness. Then, of course, there is the Westboro Baptist Church, that considers everybody who doesn't agree with them a faggot, and every church that accepts premarital sex, divorce or association with even non-practicing homosexuals a "fag church". http://www.godhatesfags.com/fags/fag.html Of course those guys in Westboro probably don't realize just how close some of their ideas are to those of the Deoband school of Islam. And for those of you who didn't study comparative religion, Deoband (Pakistan) is the source of Taliban practice and its preachers seek to regulate the tiniest details of human behavior. Including, of course, how you have sex. Also, like the Deobandis, the Westboro boys claim to possess the sole and unique correct understanding of God's thought, and God's hatreds. Personally, I think Tracey Emin's ideas, her philosophy of art and sex (with sex as the centerpiece of life) are both truer and more relevant to life; I saw her recently, on BBC America I think. http://www.guardian.co.uk/netnotes/article/0,6729,810347,00.html Organized religion has proven to be a major source of evil. Absolute power -- which the leaders of cults tend to have -- corrupts absolutely, and this is nowhere more true than in matters of sex. So it should be no surprise that as time went on, both Moses David's actions and his theology became corrupted. To get back to the point I was making, the answer to the question on the relationship between Davidito and us is, not much, at least not directly. Mom and Mom's Friend, and most of their friends, left the CoG long ago. Indeed, they left because they disagreed with Moses David's increasingly depraved (as they saw it) promotion of direct sexual contact between infants and adults. Out of that objection came Mom's Friend's ban on intergenerational sex: indeed on sex between boys and girls with an age difference of more than 15-20%. Mom's Friend had no objection to children observing adolescents and adults at sex; indeed she thought that freedom to watch was an essential learning experience. But that nursemaids in Moses David's communes and outposts were placating little boys by taking their penises in their mouths and bringing them to infantile orgasm, and that boys were doing the same to infant girls, was beyond the pale. In the later years of the Church, children of all ages were directly involved in sex, with other children and with adults. That's why Mom and Mom's Friend left. A brief summary of their theology as it concerns sex: They agreed with the CoG that as soon as a pubescent child felt eager for sex, he or she should be encouraged to have it. We still believe that. But they could not accept the abuse of small children for the satisfaction of adults, nor accept that pre-pubescent children could properly be involved as participants in sex at all. Knowledge about sex is another thing, and that it leads to an interest in girl-boy penis play after the start of sex-organ development is fine. Indeed, it's appropriate, and we would think it a pity if a girl or a boy reached age 14 without having made (especially) oral sex an essential part of her or his life. In fact, it is amazing how quickly, indeed innocently and guilelessly but also eagerly and happily, both boys and girls then incorporated sex into their lives, how normal taking a penis into mouth, and indeed elaborately mounting each other for mutual oral sex, became something we would do quite spontaneously. It is our view that the human body -- and most of all, the penis -- represents God, and that romance and passion and sexual ecstasy are quite independent of spousal love (which is not to say that spousal love does not imply exclusivity and faithfulness). Indeed of all the deadly sins, the worst (for an unmarried lover) would be jealousy of a former sex partner, resentment at seeing the penis of a boy you'd had fun with the day before ejaculating into and at the behest of and to the delight of one of your own girlfriends. Somehow we were programmed for that not to happen, just as we (like all girls) are programmed to be excited at the sight of a penis if, and only if, under our social rules we are free to make love to it. If the penis was from outside our circle of friends we would be repulsed (or amused, in the sense of ridicule). Thus: by a strange boy masturbating, or a flasher in a raincoat or a propositioning stranger who hasn't been properly introduced. For those to whom we have been introduced our task as adolescents is to evangelize, as our mothers did, through our bodies. To attract passion we should love nudity, and we should feel happy to arouse and to be aroused among groups. It is good and proper that within our commune we should freely show our libido, we should encourage and support each other's sexuality. If I brought a new boy to a friend of mine, and told her to open her "present", and she took down the boy's shorts and played with his penis and had fun, it was a blessing for all of us. Sex is a form of prayer, and orgasm comes directly from God as His response; semen is His Holy Communion, passed from boy to girl. It would be a pity if we did not enjoy sex early and often. But there were two conditions: the girl must be assured full and equal participation -- and orgasm; and the best (and thus holiest) foreplay is oral sex. There is another point which I have made before and I shall not elaborate on here: while most boys can have a perfect orgasm and full satisfaction by putting his penis into any nice girl's mouth and vagina, most girls need more than just physical stimulation, they need romance and atmosphere and a sense of belonging to get full pleasure. (How our lifestyle served to substitute for "love" is beyond the scope of these essays; it will suffice to say that we as girls "belonged" to a stable of boys and to move, day by day, among them -- and even among new boys who might come to our dance parties -- in no wise diminished the quality or nature of romance. With a new boy, almost always there would come a new girl too, to make up the numbers. And she would probably need our support to set her at ease and see to it that whichever boy she happened to be matched with moved slowly and at her pace with his penis. If, as was sometimes the case, she was a virgin and startled by the concept of oral sex as foreplay, the mere focusing of our attentions on her would have a bonding effect on everybody, the new boy included. There always was a sort of silent cheer when a girl was seen to take a penis confidently in her mouth for the first time ever. And another when the boy ejaculated and she had to put into practice what she must have known as our theory: of semen as precious Word. This is no different from what happened to me when I made oral love for the first time (it was the second, actually, but the bystanders didn't know that) in front of friends. Somehow even a new girl, presented with a strange boy -- the two of them now nude and staring with wonder at each other, the boy's penis perhaps starting to stir and the girl smiling shyly, pressing her arms back to bring out the best in her breasts -- adapted quickly to our practices. How could they not? Why else had they come but to be liberated both sexually and philosophically? For the girl to wear her traces of drying semen as badge of power, romance, purpose and sanctification.) The above is not CoG theology; it is Mom's and Mom's Friend's, shared by the other mothers we knew. They would encourage their children, but it was the children's peers who played the main role. The eagerness of a boy or girl just a few months older and/or more developed to initiate others meant that by the age of 14 most all kids who lived or visited with us were already sexually active. It would be hard to stay chaste -- even if you had been led to think chastity had any value -- with your friends sexually active and having sex in front of you. All with the full approval of their mothers, most of whom would have spent years with the CoG or another sect or commune and would themselves have sex freely and openly, if more discreetly than teenagers are wont to do. What some, perhaps most, outsiders would take for indecent and promiscuous, to us as children was normal and as adolescents was romantic: a boy and girl reciprocally flirting and propositioning, vaunting their sex with others around. Arousal and excitement leading to erection and shivering delight. And penis gravitating to mouth. And all the rest. It became the role of mothers to instill from birth pride, confidence and desire in their offspring, and to banish shame, modesty, jealousy and inhibition. Family nudity and frankness and openness -- so that kids could see their parents and older siblings enjoying sex -- would go a long way to making offspring comfortable doing likewise. And hence the scenes I just described, which mothers, fathers, partners would regard with approval, remembering that they had done likewise. (I should note here that seeing, or watching, younger couples at sex may be, for normal people, a source of curiosity but not arousal; seeing couples of the same age or slightly older at sex is on the other hand a legitimate source of sexual arousal. This is an fact which criminologists and legal scriveners concerned with child porn and child abuse seemingly fail to appreciate and incorporate in their principles. The result is the criminalization of some innocent, as well as much guilty, behavior.) The New York Times article linked to above discussed a mother having watched her 11-year-old son being initiated by a 28-year-old girl. (A "naughty nanny" story?) With us, his mother might well have been there too, but the boy would have had his first sex with a girl his own age or slightly older. Following on my earlier discussions about the mystic relationship between mothers and their sons' penises and mothers' attendance at defloration parties, no reader should be surprised at that. I can tell you that most, if not all, mothers, if they weren't brainwashed by social engineers and hypocrites and their dictatorial religions full of myths, would contrive to be present at a son's first sex (as, indeed at a daughter's). Mothers always take pride in their sons' erections and ejaculations, even if most often or ever see them in the flesh. Outsiders I talk to seem to find this assertion kinky and perverse, but their contrived horror doesn't make it any less true. And there is no objective reason why a Mom should not be upfront about her affection for every part of her son's body and her interest in his welfare. Nor is there any reason for her not to discreetly keep watch over her son's penis, its growth and its first use. In effect, our boys' mothers were handing their sons over to the institution of girlhood and to a life of sex fun. It's not a sexual but a maternal pleasure for the mother; and for the boy it is final proof to his Mom that he has achieved a certain independence. And that his semen will carry on her genes forever. The fact is, that in every defloration I was at, the boy was very conscious of his mother's presence and if she was there he would turn to her at the end to show off his sticky penis as it deflated. And of course at the party which followed they would invariably hug and kiss, the boy's penis symbolically close to the place from whence it had originally come. One of my girlfriends has a sketchbook full of images she drew of one of these parties; I wonder if it's legal for her to keep it. Of course the only photographs we have would have been taken after all the kids showered and dressed: happy family snapshots. Everybody looks so happy, so proud. On the other hand, I think of those naturist family photos I wrote about, that some families take year by year to show off their children's development, and I think: what went wrong with American society? What makes us feel guilt, or rather as a society to want families to feel guilt, over natural behavior and normal biology? All of us, whether in the CoG or out of it, or descended from women who were there, agree that the penis is the most beautiful sculpted object known to humanity, that there is nothing on God's earth more beautiful than a strong penis as it descends into a gorgeous vagina. The transformation of infant into adolescent is the greatest of events, and the process rightly captures the imagination and the attention of family and friends. The group that shares each other's nakedness grows in Godliness; I think that's universally true. For us, it went further: seeing each other giving and receiving bliss, sharing bodies, became an important lesson, and one of utmost religious significance. While as little kids we really didn't understand what sex entailed, we did understand that it was a kind of sharing and that it made grownups and teens deliriously happy. We took on faith, so to speak, that it the semen whose droplets we could see represented Holy Communion, that girls loved it; and we understood that (teen and grownup) bystanders were touched by the orgasms of others, that they could vicariously enjoy them, and that often they would be inspired to have sex too. In all these senses, I think, Mom's Friend and her likeminded colleagues were at one with the CoG. I will note, however, that Moses David did not make semen central to his theology; it appears in his writings most notoriously in connection with the conception of Jesus, which he attributes to the semen of the archangel Gabriel. (Neither Berg nor any other theologian explains the how Joseph and James, the brothers of Jesus, were conceived; I suppose the default assumption is that Mary had sex with her husband Joseph. On the other hand, some argue that Mary wasn't their mother. All this is, however, beyond the scope of this essay. You can read more if you want at: http://www.bibletexts.com/terms/jesusfamily.htm http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/02767a.htm ) But Mom's Friend offered more: respect and self-respect. And, in a sense, a certain power: for girls knew that by introducing a boy to sex, it and she -- i.e., girls as a class -- would become irresistible to him. We knew, instinctively, how to use our breasts to attract, and our voices to calm a nervous boy. From that point, arousal is easy and ejaculation inevitable. But the boy would be expected to bring the girl to climax too, usually orally. And faking orgasm was, among us, rather frowned upon: if we didn't climax, it was the boy's fault; and if a boy spent more time than normal kissing and sucking at a girl's clitoris you can be sure that a crowd of girls would gather around to criticize. That unwanted attention, more than penile size or difficulty of erection or delayed ejaculation could be cause for embarrassment. The worst thing for a boy is to have his tongue in a girl's vagina and to have that girl looking bored. I have to say, though, that the rate of (female) orgasm among us was and remains far higher than among mainstream adolescents because what we had first and foremost from Mom's Friend was assertiveness training. Coupled with the conditioning to believe that our vaginas are beautiful and worthy of being kissed. And knowing that, if a seated girl was so inspired she had as much right to spread her legs and display herself to boys as they did to exhibit a spontaneous erection to her. One of the principal aims of sex education for pre-pubescent kids, aside from teaching about STDs and safe sex and the principle of the safety of a closed circle of disease-free partners, would be to provide an understanding of the process of sexual arousal and release, an explanation of why, at puberty and generally quite before their genitals are fully developed, people experience an urgent need for sex. Unless a parent has a totally honest relationship with her child -- especially her son -- it's going to be hard to discuss, the more so since it really has to be shown. That's why it was nice that at Mom's Friend's House there were opportunities to see the process from start to finish. Indeed, it was somewhat more important to urge tolerance and understanding on the part of teens so that they wouldn't object, and indeed would take the trouble to explain what they were doing, when a younger kid wanted to watch -- usually from across the room. It might have been better for them to have seen an actual defloration party, but such events (aside from the fact that they didn't happen very often) were private affairs. It seemed to me that it was enough if a child had been raised to know and expect that when she reached puberty she would undergo an emotional (i.e., a hormonal) change that would forever change her attitude towards and her relationship with a penis, and make her want to kiss and love it and enjoy it. So, it was important that at the threshold of puberty she had the opportunity see slightly older girls making love. Without an understanding of human sexuality, it would be hard for a 10-year-old or most 11-year-olds to understand how and why two kids just a year or two older than they might be chatting innocently, and their innocence suddenly might turn to lust and they look at each other in a different way, and suddenly they are exploring each other's body, and then the boy's penis is erect and the girl is playing with it and kissing it and the boy is caressing her vagina, and so on. If I noticed kids watching me, I would try to adjust my style and our position to provide a better view, a better explanation of what was happening. For example, when I was ready for the boy's penis to enter my vagina I might put my legs up on his shoulders or otherwise up high to provide both him and bystanders a really clear view of my vagina and of exactly what his penis was doing. Or I might show the children how ejaculation works by licking his penis around its tip until semen spurted out (fountain-like if, we were lucky). In either case, anybody watching would see how much fun it was for both of us. Older kids' having sex not something one expects pre-pubescents to stare at, or to care to watch often; there may be something wrong if they do. But one day soon after, the sight of others at sex is going to stir up emotions inside them and they should know what to expect and how to deal with it. I would always say that when that happens a girl (or a boy, for that matter) should right away talk to her (or his) mother about contraception (which, by the way, the CoG never embraced, preferring to populate itself with "Jesus children" of which, of course, I am one) and defloration and all the other things she can help with. But this is only possible with the proper background, what I called above "conditioning". The latter point is that girls and boys would have been taught, both in the nurseries of the CoG and at Mom's Friend's House -- and at all the other similar offshoots of religious sexuality -- that God wanted boys and girls to get together, that the penis is instrument of His love. Mom's Friend, however, approached this as sex education, and stressed that the divine intent was that they should get together only once they were physically mature. But like David Berg she also tried to banish inhibition, shyness, modesty, embarrassment and other impediments to the maximum early enjoyment of sex. In fact, that meant that children rushed to have sex as soon as they felt able, as soon as their hormones and the state of their puberty focused their minds on sex. Since they were protected from older children and adults, they -- we -- were dealing with peers and not abusive older people. I have seen no trace among our alumni of the kind of social and psychological problems that some CoG offspring complain of: http://www.movingon.org Given the accusation -- indeed the testimony, in the form of the Davidito Book -- that nursemaids and teachers teased infant boys with their bodies, played with the boys' tiny penises and gave them oral gratification, the contrast with Mom's Friend's House and other ex-CoG refugee havens is startling. While there was a lot of nudity with us, insofar as infants were concerned this was no more shocking or upsetting or intrusive than any naturist group. But every child would have her or his day. At a certain age around puberty, her or his interest in sex and the sex process would mature, and somehow others knew -- even if she or he did not. There would be invitations and advances. Or a mother would see, and might sometimes suggest to her girl that she have a defloration party to mark her coming of age and, indeed, advertise her availability. In any case, just as I was, at some point a girl would be fascinated with the sexual implications and the sexual process of a penis, would stare at it, be invited to touch it, and then -- or soon -- out of peer pressure and contrivance it would be in her mouth, in her vagina. Once a girl has tasted semen, it belongs to her forever. From our upbringing, its sacredness is both captivating and intoxicating and habit forming. To play with a penis and have it get engorged, and for it suddenly to show you love and spurt out its semen-nectar, is delightful. Subject, of course, to the personality, the kindness, the romance and the passion of the boy. Sex is always the same, yet it's always different. It is hard to gaze on a penis without wanting to hold it, to excite it, and to be excited and aroused and happy with it. And make it give you everything it holds. Especially when one is in the flush of ecstasy from the boy's tongue rubbing against your clitoris and circling deliciously inside your vagina. To work together as partners, girls exchanging gifts, so to speak, facilitating liaisons was great fun. One grows out of it, but for teenagers it was a social and a learning experience that, tragically -- and to their cost in dysfunction, divorce and depression -- mainstream adolescents rarely know. Every time I would see a girl holding a wet penis and smiling, semen dripping from her mouth and exhausted from her own orgasm and his, I would want to go over to hug her. When I was 12 and 13, occasionally Mom would see me keeping my eyes closed while a penis was in my mouth. She didn't otherwise normally intervene, but when she saw my eyes closed she would remind me to open them and say that I was missing half the fun and half the blessing. She was right: it's just the nicest thing to take a flaccid penis and have it dance on your tongue, press your lips against its tip and draw it in and out of your mouth, not just feeling but watching it stiffen. And that's as true with a smallish pubescent penis as with a grand grown-up one. Mom would say the same thing to any boy she saw not paying full attention to my clitoris: that he can't do a proper job, and give proper joy and blessing, unless he watches his progress and sees the object of his lovemaking. The arrival of semen, she would say, is to be anticipated, seen, and tasted, smelled and blessed -- even if the boy is still young and even if it's just a drop. For semen to spurt out in quantity, however, is its essence as Holy Communion and it's why puberty marks a particular stage in our religious, as well as our physical, lives. And after ejaculation one should not be in too much of a hurry to clean up; afterplay must come first, perhaps penis in vagina to follow penis in mouth. Or the other way around. This is all the more reason for teens to enjoy sex with others about, to take advantage of those free years, to share their respective expressions of passion, to enjoy vicariously each other's orgasms and multiply their own pleasures and blessings. I think of that now when I see young people embracing. I often wonder, though, whether other girls think as we do, and see the image of penis and of vagina and of penis in vagina as ultimate beauty -- sex as art, and art as sex. Mom was, for sure, more specific, indeed intrusive, in her advice on sex than most mothers. But that was not really her main point. Aside from passing on the theology that she had inherited and developed with women like herself, she was (and is) an original feminist who asserted females' rights, insisting that our orgasm should come first. It can come as no surprise that the boys we knew were just as prone to arrogance, slothfulness and selfishness and boys anywhere. It didn't help our cause to believe that the penis, much less semen, is sacred, nor to be willing to play with and kiss a penis, to engage in sex spontaneously. Hence the order of play that we tried to enforce: it would be fun to play with a boy's penis, to make it hard, to kiss and suck it for a bit; but that boy would have to bring us to climax or to the verge of climax before he would be allowed to ejaculate. I think every girl developed her own regime in the first year after her coming out. I'm sure boys compared notes about us; we certainly shared our own experiences and opinions among ourselves. The nice thing was that there was little point in jealousy since our love was institutionalized: our romance with boys was realistic; we knew that any permanent relationships would have to wait. And for those few outsiders who joined us after, say, the age of 14 it was not the free nudity nor the adolescent embarking on physical lovemaking that was a challenge, and certainly it was not the need to accept our view of hymen as loathsome obstacle to pleasure and sacred duty. Rather it was overcoming the fiction, the myth, of romance as love, of permanence of love, of love as relevant to sexual communion. From her earliest days, a girl would learn from her mother that she had this temporary "barrier" that she should want a boy to pierce with his penis as soon as she could, i.e., when she started to get pubic hair. And that the penis that did this for her would be so lovely that she would want desperately to kiss it first, and this would make it hard and stiff and ready to help her make love. And of course the girl would all her life have seen her mother and older friends making love, and the smiles on their faces, and their devotion to the penis and happiness to have semen in their mouths and swallow it. I think this is the reason why most of the girls who had a coming out party, a formal defloration with their mother and a few friends attending, were daughters of former CoG members who lived away from us and so had only occasional contact with other likeminded families. Such girls -- and boys -- would come to our place mostly for dance parties and summer outings in the back yard. Each time they came, there would be a moment of acclimatization. I would see this most markedly when a brother and sister would get undressed and you could tell that they didn't see each other naked at home, didn't see each other at sex. There would be a sort of shy or embarrassed darting of eyes at first, without being too obvious about it. After that, once the siblings fell into line with the sexy atmosphere, they would typically feel free to admire each other -- not, certainly, in any sense of arousal or incestuous lust, but by way of support and familial love. To see her brother with an erection, then, should elicit in a sister only a knowing smile. When I had first come to say at Mom's Friend's House and was told that there were brother-and-sister visitors from time to time, I wondered how they could cope with what I took to be a social taboo of watching a sibling at sex, especially oral sex. But it turns out not to be a big deal, no more "shocking", indeed probably less so, than a mother attending to her daughter's defloration. No more shocking, really, than Mom and I having sex next to each other on the houseboat. Anyway, siblings, just like anyone else, tend to watch closely when a penis is sliding in and out of a girl's mouth, hoping, needing, to see a telltale drip of semen as proof of joy. One could not really be one of us without feeling free to take pride in a sibling's sex play. It is one measure of the total openness and acceptance among us as liturgy of the whole process of arousal, excitement and ejaculation and climax. Dear reader, you have to understand that we see nudity as beauty per se, the sex organs as our most beautiful and religiously significant parts. So it was less surprising than heartwarming to see a sister transfixed by her brother at mutual oral sex: his mouth covering his girl's vaginal opening and his tongue inside her; the girl trying to time the movement of his penis in and out of her mouth so as to synchronize, more or less, their orgasms. She was seated with her lover next to him, the two of them watching, as we all like to, the penis appearing and disappearing into the mouth while the girl's tongue tried to maintain control by circling the head of the penis as it passed by. But at the same time the sister was fondling her lover's penis and the two of them were getting increasingly agitated. How lovely it was! And then, when her brother's semen came rushing out, she lost no time in lying back, her legs spread wide apart, her boy on top of her. And now his face was buried between her thighs, his tongue moving back and forth and around inside her labia; and her boy's penis was in her mouth moving in and out of her mouth from above. And it was her brother's turn to watch and admire and anticipate his sister's joy and blessing. I think back on those days and those events with nostalgia and happiness and only wished that all of humanity could experience such adolescence. I didn't see that girl finish: I couldn't wait because my partner's penis was really stiff and lovely and we needed urgently to make love. I wanted to feel semen stream into me; I wanted to give my date pleasure. But how I wished I'd had a brother, or a sister, to be with and to share the sights and sounds and aromas of my sexual joy. By comparison with dance parties, brothers, and certainly fathers, were not normally invited to a defloration. None were present at any I attended. But I was told that at least sometimes a brother did come, to escort and (usually) be naked with a particular girlfriend of his sister. Given the story I just related, it shouldn't be surprising. And after all: "Once one accepts that virginity has no intrinsic value and is best disposed of early in life, the sight of a penis penetrating virginal daughter or sister is cause for celebration: she was well rid of that impediment, that obstacle to fun and bliss." http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2004/48125 I imagine it's all a matter of conditioning. I'm not a boy, and I don't have a sister, so I can't really imagine that a boy should be upset to see a penis poised to enter his sister; but I know that society sort of expects that to happen. When the penis is lowered into her and breaks through the barrier, it seems to me that the girl has now just been validated, blessed and given new stature and status. You see her vagina dilated and gaping, and you see her chest rise and fall in the exhaustion of orgasm and you know that she is lovelier than before. Certainly, that time I made a first public display of having a boy ejaculate in my mouth and then showed everybody his semen and swallowed it, it was a great event for me and I know for my friends too. Nobody gave a thought to my age -- 11: they could see how happy we both were, the boy and I. I just think that to see rivulets of semen running out the corner of a daughter's or sister's mouth or mixed with her mucus and blood from her vagina, is (or ought to be) the fulfillment of family solidarity and proof of godly continuity. (I have known girls to criticize technique while another girl has her brother's penis in her mouth, but I think that's a rather crude intrusion. Nothing should stop a boy from speaking up; I certainly never resented suggestions from a boy, or having him point out what made him feel good. In fact, I always have preferred -- when we're not showing off with mutual oral sex -- having oral sex for the first time seated in a chair, with my partner kneeling in front. And then following up with him seated and me kneeling. That way we can see everything and one is free to move or squirm and use one's hands in such a way as to improve friction and pleasure.) It's no surprise that at least some would want to join others seated around a sibling at sex to watch the beauty of penis entering and exiting, to enjoy the scent and to experience the excitement of ejaculation. Still, for those from out of town, siblings or not, who did not practice open sex full time, it must not have been easy to take on a secret lifestyle and a set of beliefs that could be shared only with us, and only every so often. No wonder that we girls would delight in the visit of such a boy, and perhaps rush to undress him and fuss over his penis, to make him feel welcome, wanted and needed. We knew that it doesn't take long for a young person to commit to a free-sex lifestyle and to develop innate sexual needs. But more than that, our evangelistic fervor reflected our connection between sex and religion and our joy (in every sense of the word) in spreading the good news. When I would pull down a boy's underpants and his penis would come into view and I would begin to play with it I would feel like the High Priestess. An erection is part of a religious happening. All our theology would come to me. And not just to me: for me, yes, but also for anyone watching that there would be an urgency to see the ejaculation, to meet the arrival of the Host. There is nothing lovelier than the spurting of semen, than collecting it on your tongue, licking off and swallowing its traces. And knowing that you are sharing DNA that amalgamates and represents body and personality of all the world since Adam. Indeed, of God who made Adam in His image. No wonder boys are so proud at that moment. Their ecstasy memorializes it all. In retrospect and hindsight, taking a pubescent, +/- 5-inch penis into my mouth and teaching its owner about romance was of even more religious significance. Puberty is itself a holy miracle, and I think of a boy's first ejaculations as a mother's colostrum -- the first nourishment that a baby will get. But, pity as it may be, I didn't see or understand that at the time, and like so much in life it's too late now. I don't see pubescent kids today, and have outgrown the interest; although I know that when and if I have children of my own I would be proud to watch their sexual growth and honored to see first sexual awakening, first pubescent erection, first pubescent ejaculation and first penis in mouth and defloration and all the things I have written about. If, in the 21st Century, with our new norms and new definitions of children's rights (including "right", or rather "mandate", to be chaste -- or at least to pretend to be chaste), that is to prove possible. To my mind, contriving to make it sinful, outrageous, abusive, etc. for a 13-year-old girl to be seen with penis in mouth and semen dripping down her lips and chin simply drives her and her boys and her friends to secrecy -- and danger. For doing what comes naturally and what is divine command. In truth there may be a fine line between abuse -- clearly evident in Davidito's case if only because of the sexual relationships pursued (presumably at his mother's direction) by his minders and teachers -- and same-age relationships encouraged, fostered by mothers. That there is indeed (as I've often written) a mystical relationship between mothers and their boys' penises can't be denied. And there's no reason why a mother shouldn't monitor and admire her boy's penis as it develops, and comment on it too, providing counsel. I have seen a boy's mother fidget in her chair with emotion as drops of seminal fluid seeped out of his fiercely erect penis while he stood before the girl he was about to deflower. I have to assume the boy got has confidence from her, that she had prepared him for that day. And why shouldn't mothers discuss sex intimately with their boys, as with their girls, from the youngest of ages? Why shouldn't a mother tell her son that when his penis grows girls will want to take it in mouth and vagina and that this will make the boy feel very good indeed. And of course he should be taught, and shown, semen, and how it will spurt from his penis into a girl in an act of passion bringing fantastic joy to both of them. Presumably, in an open and free family boys and girls will see this happen, will see mothers at sex, as I so often did. And will take it for granted that the pleasure and sanctity of sex are vested future interests for them too. It is totally ridiculous, even outrageous, that for so many boys the first semen he sees should be his own and not that of older males around him. Even the youngest boy should know that an erection is something to be proud and happy over even if it's an immature one. As a boy or a girl approaches puberty, he or she should be aware of parental and sibling recognition, as well as the subtle expectation that the new adolescent will embark on sexual adventure. The defloration party is one way, a nice way, of making that an "event": for girl or boy who hasn't touched or been touched, the formality of presentation of penis, of kissing it, of boy kissing girl's vagina and bringing her to the verge of climax and then penetrating her -- this is the ultimate rite of passage. I have been asked, when I have argued as above, "Doesn't this promote infantile masturbation, and do we want to encourage that?" As far as I know, some immature boys and a smaller number of girls are prone to masturbation; others are not. It is true that knowledge and the realization that rubbing the tip of his penis or her clitoris will be pleasurable will induce some kids to masturbate. It is also true that there is something of a conspiracy to keep little boys and girls from knowing the ins and outs if all this; indeed the promotion of competitive sports and boy scouting and the like has always had one its aims to keep boys outdoors and with their clothes on and their hands away from their penises. We -- and by "we" I mean Mom's Friend and her likeminded colleagues and followers -- simply have no opinion on masturbation: if children or adults want to do it, this has nothing to do with us; we only argue for making available maximum opportunities for heterosexual sex from the moment of puberty on. And dissemination of full knowledge relating to sex, health and sexual well-being. And, at least for our families, an understanding of the religious aspects. I've written about how I responded a few times to the sight of boys masturbating: I might intervene, take the boy in hand and, like that time in the bathroom, engage him in mutual oral sex; or I might just ignore it. That first time I intervened was when I was 11, in the first house, and I took over massaging the boy's penis with my hand, with funny consequences that I described in my essay. I don't know why it is, unless it's a matter of the polarization of politics in the postmodern era -- but everybody is expected to have a view on everything, and that view should coincide with his or her self-assigned group's worldview. As it happens, there are many issues I simply am indifferent over, and masturbation happens to be one of them. At the start of puberty, boy-girl sex becomes important, desirable; once semen is produced, once menses begin, I think it is essential, indeed commanded. Before that, from the earliest signs of puberty, it is optional. That's my -- our, I think -- view; others may disagree. I would expect the social engineers and the self-appointed hypocrite prophets of God to disagree. Nothing new there. For them, any observation, much less recorded image, of a naked child is obscene, if not child abuse: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/16222840 (archived at: http://tinyurl.com/5um75 ) Parenthetically, I have no view either about homosexuality: I'm not Rev. Phelps of the church I linked to above. (See also: http://snipurl.com/cd6t ) I know that gay people have, in principle, no interest in us; if they do not interfere with my lifestyle, why should I pay attention to theirs, about which I know nothing? On the other hand, I once met a sex worker who told me that she'd learned all she needed to know about fellatio by watching gay men at it. I told her that I learned all I needed to know by doing it, starting at age 11, that my Mom had seen me at it and given me lots of advice and that I didn't think I'd missed any essential aspects of the art. (In this day and age, of course, girls can get all the lessons they want by renting a DVD; but I still say that experience is the best teacher.) The importance of things like keeping your eyes open all the time and not swallowing the semen too quickly are not so obvious from just watching, so Mom's advice has been very important to me. There's also the business of putting on a show for your friends -- making a demonstration of the spurting semen by bringing the boy to ejaculation through running your tongue repeatedly around the tip of his penis with its little slit exposed. Or collecting his semen on your tongue and opening your mouth for others to see it before letting the semen slide down your throat. A demonstration of this technique can be hypnotic, and I've done it at a party and found a dozen onlookers sighing in relief when, finally, the semen spurts out. The slowness of the procedure gives the prostate gland time to produce extra seminal fluid, so with luck the semen will explode out of the penis -- and it will be a challenge for the girl to capture it all, or as much of it as she can, with mouth and tongue. However it turns out, I have to tell you that there isn't anybody in the world who isn't captivated by the sight of penis in mouth -- and I can tell you from personal experience that even the most crazed bible-thumping pro-chastity fanatic will often have a secret life in that regard. Without exception, though, absolutely the most fascinated, hypnotized watcher is a sister staring at her brother's penis moving in and out of another girl's mouth, waiting for the penis to erupt, for the sight of her brother's semen. Suffice to say that all of this is good enough reason to refrain, generally, from everybody in a room having oral sex at the same time: it contributes far more to the ambiance and everybody's pleasure to be able to watch others before and after. And, anyway, sex should not be any sort of competition: anyone who tries that will quickly discover that however good one thinks one is, there is always somebody smarter and better at it, and better looking, too: better face, better penis, and so on. That said, every girl is amazed at the phenomenon of arousal and ejaculation just by tactile sensation, and it was no wonder to me that no sooner did a girl -- who probably had seen this from a distance many times over the years -- realize that her breasts had developed enough to interest boys, and the penises of boys her age enough to interest her than she'd want to experiment herself. We always used to have to remind girls that they too were capable of special sensation and that they should spend as much time watching what boys do when licking at a girl's clitoris as the other way around.) Getting back to the original question, one needs to consider not only the response to masturbation (i.e., laissez faire) but what to do about pre-pubescent kids who insist that they want to try out sex. Mom's Friend discouraged it, and refused to support mothers who wanted to let such kids try, even oral sex. Sometimes mothers were pushy on this; indeed they were often way ahead of their sons and daughters in what they expected of them. This strikes me as odd, because one would expect that of fathers, specifically in regard to their sons, but not of mothers. Perhaps at some point I can find the time to write an essay about a dance party where this proved to be an issue, one Mom having brought her reluctant kids to play out her own fantasies. And of course some kids just did it on their own, without asking. But if Mom's Friend knew what they were planning, unlike the CoG crowd she insisted that children be told to wait "until they have discernable pubic hair at least". Well, that's a subjective criterion that could result in attention being paid to a girl's nether region, attention that might in any particular case be welcome or might be embarrassing. In practice, one could tell a girl's attitude -- her eagerness or reluctance for sexually-driven attention -- by whether, when she was sitting in a chair nude, her knees were close together or far apart, and whether she welcomed the gaze, indeed the stares, of others upon her breasts and upon her vulva. She'd have a second chance at rejection or confirmation of an approach when a boy would sit down next to her: would she return his gaze by looking in his face or at his penis? Where would their respective hands go? If he got an erection, the girl had every right to caress and fondle it -- in fact there was something wrong if she didn't give it the attention it deserved, perhaps moving her hand down to cuddle his balls too and leaning over to give his penis a kiss. As I said, kids of that age are less inclined to spend time kissing each other on the lips and more anxious to play with genitals and breasts. So once a girl had made her decision, things could progress rapidly to experimental or tentative oral sex -- which of course isn't much different from the "real" kind. If an adult or Older Girl happened to be around, there might be an invitation to the new recruit to have a coming-out party, a ceremony of defloration set up so that those dearest to her could see her beautiful vagina and watch her have a penis enter it for the first time. We were always willing to finesse the question of whether a girl who'd tried oral sex was still a virgin. Don't ask, don't tell. It was enough that a girl who has had her sex parts kissed and has reached orgasm and then has had semen spurt into her has come as close to God as it is possible to be. I have several times described how those defloration celebrations were handled. The target girl's mother would position her on the bed, either at the head or the foot; in either case her legs would be spread well apart, and perhaps lifted up and back, her back supported by pillows, so that she and we could see her face, her breasts and her crotch. With luck, we might already be able to see inside her labia. A clever mother would want the boy to have at least a glimpse of what was inside and to remind him that the most important part of the event was bringing the girl to orgasm orally. Anyway, the chosen boy would come in, either naked or wearing only underpants which he'd take off right away in a sort of quick striptease. He would approach the girl tentatively, shyly offering her his penis to cuddle. In other words, he would throw his shoulders back and press his hips forward, as a signal to her, asking for recognition. The girl would probably play with the penis and make it hard and beautiful. This might well be a pretense, but we were perfectly prepared to accept that she had never touched a penis before, even if we knew or suspected that she had. Almost always we would get to see the penis in her mouth for a minute or so; then someone would remind the boy that this was the girl's event, not his, so that he would crouch down and begin kissing licking the girl's vagina and engaging her clitoris to bring her to the threshold of climax. (While most girls do not ever reach orgasm 100% of the time especially when it's their first time, it seems to me that they always did when they were the star of a defloration party.) I think it's usually obvious when a girl is approaching her first orgasm. She, or her mother, would signal, and the boy, having been prompted, would quickly move up and direct his penis into her vagina, press it firmly through her hymen, complete her orgasm and fill her with as much semen as he could produce. Invariably, everybody would be touched by the beauty and the emotion and naturalness of it all, however much the couple fumbled and ad-libbed. Every stroke of the penis in vagina is a reaffirmation, a rededication. I've described these events several times before, and you can find the essays on the Web site I set up: http://www.angelfire.com/co4/cobil Ideally, a girl will grasp the penis to guide it home, but a lot of girls don't. The Big Breasted Girl didn't, and her boy's big penis wound up poking her in the wrong place. At a defloration with everybody looking that's not likely: one of the mothers or friends would speak up. Anyway, Mom's recommended position on such occasions is such that both boy and girl have a good view of the penis penetrating and unless the boy is terribly clumsy everything should go well. Also, the boy will have kissed and licked at the vagina long enough to make it very dilated and wet. The girl will have her legs raised, and her vagina will be ready and visible to all, including herself, as the penis approaches it. In fact, if there is a problem it may be that the penis is momentarily too rigidly upright to be directed downwards for easy penetration; the boy then has to lean forward, finding support for his arms where he can and leaving the girl to manipulate his penis. I have to say that when a boy with a mature penis takes that position, so long as he doesn't obscure our view of the girl's vagina and of his penis's trajectory, it produces the most beautiful scene, with his penis moving in and out and (if they aren't too tight) his scrotum and balls back and forth. One of the photographs that accompanied my last essay illustrated this ("Mom's favorite position"). http://www.angelfire.com/co4/cobil/topl.htm Most girls would have found a penis like that irresistible, and when the boy came to greet her would have -- sometimes with prompting from their mother -- caressed, explored and kissed it first. No wonder that boys were always in demand afterwards, by all the girls. Perhaps most touching of all is, however, later when the girl, satisfied, leans back and you can see traces of the couple's combined fluids -- semen, mucus, blood -- drip from her vagina, while a matching stickiness coats the boy's softening penis. It is as holy a Christian sign as I can imagine: of body and blood, of passion and making love. (For those who would call this blasphemy I can only repeat what Mom says: everybody remakes God into their own image -- it's not the other way around.) No wonder the mothers of boys selected for the task were so proud. It was from one of them that I learned always to suggest to the girl that she should kiss the penis at that point, spending some time at afterplay and contemplating what she has accomplished. There are only two such memorable homecomings in a girl's life: her own birth and the day she escapes from and discards virginity. And it's not much different for a boy, even if society wants to pretend that it is. Our community, indeed, had as its basic aim to equalize the status of girl and boy in sex and in religion -- another reason why we paid no heed to virginity except to get rid of it. I would always tell a boy and girl following such an event that this was the proudest day of their lives and that they should remember it always, no matter if they had a thousand sex partners thereafter. My reason for saying that was because the most essential part of the event was assuring the girl a climax. As I've said many times, starting a girl off right, with an orgasm her first time, is the most important thing if she is to approach sex correctly. And to feel that God has spoken to her through it, through that boy's penis. She needs to know that her life will never be the same, and that she will be the better off because of it, and that she can count, absolutely, positively on this new, repetitive joy. She is now free to seduce and be seduced, to show off her body, to flirt with intent. Every day if she likes, and each time with somebody different. (Defloration aside, it goes without saying that the flirty minuet was, and is, not all that different among older people. While one may have different notions of what is sexy and different preferences as to physique, penis, breasts, etc., it worked the same way when I was 15 and older, even when I became an adult. Boys proposition everywhere, but with us girls could do so also; and once a girl has the confidence of her convictions nothing stopped her from responding to a boy's continued stare by commanding him to approach her so she could have a look at his penis. And his balls -- always his testicles too. And if she chose to play with the penis, things would go on from there. It could be very deflating for the boy if, having looked, she chose not to -- but that was usually just part of the game. What girl doesn't like to see a boy's penis fill out and rise up on account of her? And when they've done that, they become so kissable. I often would forget, until almost too late, that I was supposed to stop and make the boy bring me to climax orally before letting him ejaculate into my mouth or my vagina. Sometimes one of the other girls watching would have to remind us, although none of our regular boys would ever admit to losing interest in his girl's climax just because he'd already been satisfied. It is disgraceful when a boy, having ejaculated, takes his penis from a girl's mouth, leaves her vagina gaping and eager for his kisses, and then ignores her. And since a lot of boys refuse, rather hypocritically, to kiss a vagina full of their semen, a girl is taking a risk if she lets him put his penis in before she has got to the cusp of climax.) In my time the issue of "when" was an, or the, appropriate time for first sex wasn't articulated as an issue: it just happened -- but also there was more pressure to start; the group we lived with hadn't developed any philosophy on the subject, so Moses David's thinking -- which never had any rule against importuning or even coercion -- governed by default. And even Mom's Friend's rule on that subject would not have prevented the boy who in fact deflowered me from challenging me as he did: we were horsing about and in a tumble that he provoked, we fell and he somehow managed to slip his legs in between mine and just directed his penis into my vagina. I hadn't even realized his penis was erect and to this day I wonder about how it slipped in so easily without foreplay or extra lubrication. Perhaps I was somehow excited by the tussle. By the time I came to Mom's Friend's House I was 13 and past that point: I'd been having vaginal sex for almost two years and, as I've written, was something of an activist in oral sex and seduced a whole series of boys during the year I lived on the houseboat with Mom. Thereafter we moved to Mom's Friend's House. For months to come, in addition to seducing boys, I would eagerly introduce them to girls their age, girls just awakening to the possibilities. I knew, of course, that the boys would fawn over those girls and that ultimately -- usually a matter of weeks -- the girls would surrender. I'd work on their mothers, too, to convince them their daughters were ready. It was just a matter of getting a girl of, say 12, 13 or 14 to appreciate the power of her own growing breasts, the potential of her vagina. And the possibility of using them to assert control over boys. Plus, of course, the fun and delight that a boy's penis represents, including the fun of deconstructing the mystique of something -- the penis -- that for a lifetime they have so held in awe. Readers might reasonably ask how the experience of early sex affects later relationships. As for the CoG, the movingon.org Web site includes a reader survey, self-selected so that it's hardly statistically sound but informative nonetheless. The vast majority of ex-CoG children (i.e., offspring of CoG members who grew up under their liberal, but intrusive and pressured, sexual community and had early sex have successful adult relationships and sex lives. I think that among my own friends the outcome is similar. A few, boys mainly, have had a hard time adjusting to the competition: when they were with us there was none, but now they are competing in a free market. And for reasons I have covered in earlier essays, it's difficult to carry on now all or even much of what we did, because of new social norms. post-1985 health risks, and the lack of interest in commune living. Remember, Mom's Friend is a trust-fund brat: knowing that CoG members had to give their wealth to the Church upon joining, her parents set up a trust fund that she could not draw on and would only receive income from, and the use of a house from, once she left the organization. In effect, Mom's Friend subsidized her communal boarders and the single mothers who stayed with her from time to time. None could ever have afforded a market rent: certainly Mom could not. My own life, too, has taken a conventional turn. All I can say is that I am happy with my childhood, and would like to find some compromises for any children I have. Part of my investigative journalism -- such as calling on Rev. Mary (a cult where Rev. Mary's own daughter took charge of supervising the sexual initiation of boys and girls) and visiting Baja California (a timeshare where kids were left pretty much on their own to experiment sexually) -- has been to seek out options. Ways in which kids can have holidays where they can experience nudity, nude playing, nude dancing, and the kind of liberal, open sex and group arousal under parental supervision that we enjoyed. If we can preserve a next-generation community with venues for dance parties and coming-out parties and backyard naturism and fun that we had, it would be great. But if it is to be a true copy of what I enjoyed, ultimately it has to be driven and controlled and kept honest by adolescent girls with advice from their Moms. I have concluded, from my investigation as reported in some of these essays, that while nude dance parties for teens remain common currency, outposts of communal life of the sort we had are extremely rare. Those who would denigrate our life style have called it a "cult of the penis", but it wasn't that. It is a lifestyle that gives predominance to sexual expression from the moment of capacity because that is a self-evident aspect of natural law, of biology. And for all his faults and later degeneracy and millenarianism (Second Coming, End of World, etc.), Moses David did have at one point in his life a true insight into the divine order for sex and in human sexuality. Neither he nor we would force our order upon outsiders, but we should be free, with our families, to act out our lives as we feel commanded to do. And that includes the special place that sexuality and visible sex -- indeed visible ejaculation and respect for semen as the host of Holy Communion -- hold in our lives. And kids growing up to know that it's perfectly normal for adolescents to enjoy each others' nude bodies, for boys and girls to pair off and play erotically in common company. That penis belongs in mouth and vagina, that ejaculation brings real joy measured by spurts of semen that the girl should treasure and can justly show off and happily consume. And that sexual pleasure is a renewable resource, with penis alternately in mouth and in vagina, and boys obliged to make their girl happy by kissing and licking her most precious and beautiful inner parts. The Children of God as a church has had so much exposure, and there has been so little direct governmental interference (the Ward case being the major exception of judicial intervention) http://countercog.excult.org/judgment/index.htm , that despite the rule of law that religious belief is no excuse for criminal behavior, it seems there were powerful political forces at work to shield mothers from accusations of child abuse. Perhaps that was part of Mom's lobbying role in the days when she was flirty fishing among the politically powerful. I'm not sure that even she knew the implications of what she was doing; she would build the relationships and more senior staff and their hired lawyers would move in to make representations. And, as I've written before, Mom never would discuss the identities of the politicians and senior staffers she had sex with; eventually I stopped asking because it only upset her or made her angry, depending on her mood of the day. Mom's Friend, of course, didn't have that kind of "immunity" so her recovery project for mothers and children had to be far more discreet. It's always been amazing to me that the kids who were having so much fun at sex managed to keep it all a secret once they were out of the house. I think part of it was (1) that few kids could be or were approached except through their mothers, who would have had proper commitment and discretion, and (2) since everybody understood there had to be severe limits on outside boys, with the exception of very few whose mothers had a special relationship with Mom's Friend, boys had to be sponsored by a sister or other girl. As I've written, it isn't every brother and sister who are eager to disrobe in front of each other and be paired off to have sex in each other's company. And, often, provide a venue for the first party. In my research on all of this, reflected in these essays, I found that the biggest risk was in a potential divorce and custody dispute. But such disputes are rare where the child is already past puberty since the child has a major say in where he or she will live. Finally, for whatever reason, most of us had single Moms and custody was unlikely ever to be an issue and there was nobody to make mischief about our lifestyle. When we had a dance party, there would generally be a group of mothers upstairs with Mom's Friend, ostensibly chaperones but in fact committed to letting us go about having sex, safely and happily and with variety. Those mothers, conspiring together, managed to exclude the vast majority of neurotic, inadequate, selfish and inept hangers-on and troublemakers. Not that any mother ever concedes that her son (or daughter) is sexually inadequate, but Mom always said in answer to that, "We can tell." And it's true that word gets around. Even virgin boys -- and as I wrote, sometimes mothers preferred virgin boys as defloration partners for their girls -- would turn out to have a reputation that followed them. I suspect that more often than we thought, they weren't virgins at all and at least had had oral sex. A mother, pushing her son forward as extension of her own ego would certainly never tell. And there was this point: the assigned boy was supposed to be reliable, to have nice penis and an assured erection, to be conscious of his obligation to bring the girl to climax, to produce semen in quantity and all the rest. How, if he was a virgin, could anybody be so sure of these qualities? Better, I thought then and now, for the girl's mother to admit this and ask for an experienced boy whose penis and whose personality we all had tried and knew about. As I've written, lots of times boys could and would happily have oral sex, even mutual oral sex, months before their penis had grown enough to give them real confidence for vaginal sex. Some boys feel inadequate on account of penile size; others ignore the issue and just present the girl with their middling erection. In my experience, growing boys would likely as not make up for any perceived genital immaturity by being especially solicitous with their tongue on my sex parts. I encountered the situation more than other girls simply because I matured early and began to have sex young, while most 11-year-old boys are just beginning to mature. Encountering that, I started to especially enjoy boys whose penises and balls were out of synch, different parts growing at different rates. It's just a matter of being fascinated by anomalies and curiosities of humanity. It is degeneracy and perversion when an adult man is aroused by an 11-year-old girl; but for an 11-13 year old boy to be so aroused is normal. And hadn't such boys been aroused by me, even when I had only the tiniest of breasts, scarcely more than buds? That boy who targeted and deflowered me when I was 11 must have seen something sexy in me. And as it turned out, all it took to get me interested and involved in things sexual was to get rid of my hymen. No wonder that ever afterwards I've been on a campaign to convince every girl that she should plan for sex the minute she reaches puberty and that every Mom should be a matchmaker to bring penis and vagina together. Not in the fumbling way I did it, but with a party where everybody can make a fuss over the couple. And the couple can learn that "inadequacy" is a matter of perception, and of myth. I'm not saying that every teen should have had sex by the time she or he crosses the puberty threshold, but it's an option for at least a few, particularly those late to develop; every kid is capable of both arousal and orgasm at that point. Anyway, the reason for the involvement of their mothers is that she has the perspective to know when they should start. Size apart, at issue for a boy's first vaginal sex is not particularly dysfunction, as most any young boy who is not physically defective is capable of an erection. Indeed it can be a fun challenge to make an inexperienced and nervous boy's penis erect. Especially when the thing hindering his erection is the presence of his mother, and his very fear of disappointing her by not being able to penetrate the girl. (That, of course, is why we had no problem with the 13/14-year-old boy whose erection got caught in his elastic waistband when his mom tried to help him lower his underpants as he entered the room where his "bride" was waiting to be deflowered. But no boy who was suspected of insecurity or impotence would ever have been selected for that task anyway.) These days, a lot of boys take Viagra prior to their first coitus, so the problem is virtually nonexistent. A more difficult issue can be delayed ejaculation, especially if the boy's penis is thin by comparison with the girl's vagina and there isn't enough friction to give him a speedy orgasm. The answer there is to take time out for oral sex. Just one more reason why having mothers and friends about for a girl's coming out is really helpful and a good idea. It isn't enough for her just to have her hymen broken: she also needs to know her partner has ejaculated, and sense semen inside her, if the event is to serve its purpose as First Communion. I have to say that all this business of our boys inevitably being OK as sex partners did not, as the story of my onetime boyfriend the 16-Year-Old Boy, translate into every boy growing up into a fully-charged, quality partner. Some kids did well in a structured multi-partner environment, but could not stabilize their sex lives after age 18 when they were essentially on their own. That is no different from the indigenous peoples who cannot handle Western society (a few tragic cases of Hmong immigrants, and even Native Americans, the latter having every right to special consideration) and who migrate to their own social spheres. Only today there are few free-sex communities left and the economy has become unforgiving. Which is to say that the 16-Year-Old Boy has a job as refrigeration technician, but as far as I could tell, isn't able to impress any girls to the degree of building a stable relationship. Probably that has nothing to do with his past with us; it is enough to say that just proffering a stiff penis is not enough in adulthood (and if I alienate a few readers by pointing out the truth, so be it). American cities are full of men and women who -- at best -- spend their off hours wishfully clicking on pictures in match.com. And at worst waste their time and money on porn sites. All my experience with him proves, I think, that it's all well and good to have a lovely, responsive and productive penis and really lovable balls, but personality counts, too, and a girl eventually gets bored with a cypherhead, however delightful his tongue feels inside her vagina. Mom, as I said, had that poster of Louis Abolafia (you'll see his nude photo, his lovely penis, at http://www.spectator.net/EDPAGES/exoticerotic.html ) on her wall. And after I'd got rid of the 16-Year-Old Boy she tried to explain that her criticism of him was that, while he had a lovely penis and balls just like Louis, what he didn't have was character that you could read on his face, an outgoing personality that made taking his penis into your mouth a matter of urgency, desperately wanting to give him pleasure and to have his semen. That, she said, was something you could tell even from a photograph. Well, perhaps. Mom, of course, kept her passion forever for the style of boy she'd loved from her own teen years. She never could figure out the boys I was with, or our music or our interests. And although I kept assuring her that I was, just as she kept telling me, keeping sex "in perspective" and that I did, indeed, have other interests, and couldn't she see that I read a lot, and that I was always out with friends hiking and doing stuff, somehow I don't think she was every fully satisfied. But that's the story of the generations, isn't it? Take a boy's clothes off, though, and he's the same, since Adam. No matter how handsome and statuesque his penis, he's still the same boy inside. Liberal sex was important to Mom; it was a commitment she'd made long ago. I accepted it, in fact I loved it. I thought I was avoiding mistakes that Mom had made; she, on the other hand, seems to have thought I was making them all over again. But one of the points I have tried to make is that an honest, liberal parent doesn't try to impose her ancient childhood norms on her kids. Mom was happy to see me in an embrace. She'd experienced an abrupt breakaway from her own parents when she left them for the Children of God, and when she found she'd followed a false prophet -- or at least a partially false one -- she was chastened. She allowed me to make decisions but provided guidance based on her own experience -- exactly what an ideal parent would do. Readers may find the theological basis for her life and mine odd, but I hope that the recent revelations about the Children of God, The Family and Davidito will prove that the basis was substantial, even if faulty. One assumes that readers in this venue will not be outraged by the unconventional, sexually-aware, nature of our theology and hence our upbringing. But the fact is that -- as all those expensive professionals who were engaged to analyze children from the Children of God sect found -- in general one suffers no damage from early and honest sexual encounter. To know the body of the opposite sex from the earliest age when it is physically appropriate to do so is a blessing. In fact, postponing sex until legal age is a matter of economics, not biology or psychology. Human beings paired off at 14-16 for millennia, and only now, when further education and maturity are needed to compete in the modern economy have governments legislated later ages for school leaving and employment. Whatever else they do, however, governments cannot legislate later ages for puberty -- and in fact the age of puberty has been falling steadily over a number of years. (You can google "age of puberty" for the statistics.) Past that age, kids can and should enjoy each others' bodies. That is natural law. And I have seen and, I think, shown, that it is right and proper. I hope nobody tries to extrapolate from the Davidito case -- a young man driven psychotic not by his past but by his present friends and by hangers-on with an agenda -- to condemn the life we led. In any case, I have done the best I can to set out honestly the basis for our beliefs and our practices, what we believed and what we did. And how it made us better, sexually and socially happier, adults. More than that I can't do. And what I am not going to do is to defend human biology, and what comes naturally from it. Love, Carol P.S.: Although I have discussed the issue more than once, I am still asked how often we, as adolescents, had sex. The assumption seems to be that sex is all we did. I repeat what I have said before: we may have started our sex lives earlier than most Americans, girls or boys, and sex may have been a part of our faith, but it was far from all-consuming. Yes, our dance parties and the occasional coming-out parties were sex-driven, although at some coming-out parties the main girl and her beau were the only ones to have sex; indeed sometimes the only ones to be naked. Yes, there was absolute freedom to be nude in the backyard and in the basement of Mom's Friend's House -- as in dedicated zones of lots of homes I've been in, especially homes of the communal, liberal sort. And girls had equal rights to be flirty and adventurous and to start something. But in fact and for the rest, making love was a matter of mood and romance and feeling: it just happened, spontaneously. I guess for most that meant once, occasionally twice, a week; counting, I should say, multiple attempts at orgasm on a single occasion as one time. More often, perhaps, if the weather was nice and people came over. For me, a lot more often when I was going with the 16-Year-Old Boy. The truth is, nobody was keeping score -- and except for my diary notes, often indecipherable and incomplete -- we don't remember exactly. What we do remember are the funny, the sad, the new and the exciting; but just as we grow gradually, not even realizing that today we have a few more pubic hairs than yesterday, our breasts are just that bit grander, our boy's penis a bit more impressive, one day's joy can be confused with another's. All I can say with confidence is that the best orgasm ever is your latest one, the best penis the one that is on the verge, right now, of ejaculating for you. -- Pursuant to the Berne Convention, this work is copyright with all rights reserved by its author unless explicitly indicated. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | alt.sex.stories.moderated ------ send stories to: <ckought69@hotmail.com>| | FAQ: <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/faq.html> Moderators: <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |ASSM Archive at <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org> Hosted by <http://www.asstr-mirror.org> | |Discuss this story and others in alt.sex.stories.d; look for subject {ASSD}| +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+