Message-ID: <45864asstr$1071583803@assm.asstr-mirror.org> X-Original-Message-ID: <20031216042322.12902.qmail@web20026.mail.yahoo.com> From: Quivering Flesh <quivering_flesh@yahoo.com> Reply-To: quivering_fleshNOSPAM@yahoo.com x-asstr-no-archive: no x-no-archive: no X-ASSTR-Original-Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:23:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: {ASSM} "Happy Families are (Not) All Alike" 12 of 57 (MFgg pedo incest best cons) x-asstr-message-id-hack: 45864 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 09:10:03 -0500 Path: assm.asstr-mirror.org!not-for-mail Approved: <assm@asstr-mirror.org> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d X-Archived-At: <URL:http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2003/45864> X-Moderator-Contact: ASSTR ASSM moderation <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Story-Submission: <ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Moderator-ID: gill-bates, RuiJorge ===== You can find all of our stories on ASSTR at www.asstr-mirror.org/files/Authors/quivering_flesh/www/ and at www.asstr-mirror.org/files/Authors/quivering_flesh/. Please let us know your reactions to them. And thanks for reading! __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ <1st attachment, "Happy Families are (Not) All Alike 12 of 57.txt" begin> Hey, this is my story, so don't steal it! Repost elsewhere if you want, but leave it intact (including the email address at the end). Enjoy! Kisses, quivering_fleshNOSPAM@yahoo.com ________________________________________________________ "Happy Families are (Not) All Alike" 12 of 57 (MFgg pedo incest best cons) Vaughn: hi again Rachel & Gwen: i am showing gwen everything Vaughn: are you both there right now? Rachel & Gwen: naked! Vaughn: oh! Rachel & Gwen: yes we are! Vaughn: i hope you're not cold! Rachel & Gwen: dad is out..again..and mom just sent you a letter and then ran to the store Vaughn: yes, i just got her letter Rachel & Gwen: cold? hehe Vaughn: are you both naked, or just rachel? Rachel & Gwen: that is why we couldnt get on line Rachel & Gwen: just rachel she said but she is to Rachel & Gwen: gwen is turning red! Vaughn: i don't want any to catch cold...you two should sit close together to keep rachel warm Vaughn: and to keep gwen warm! Vaughn: lol Rachel & Gwen: guen wont ever sit at the computer Vaughn: why not? don't you like computers gwen? Rachel & Gwen: i mean gwen!! boy! Rachel & Gwen: she is afraid of you ..hehe Vaughn: i won't bite, i promise! Rachel & Gwen: wait! Vaughn: i only kiss (and sometimes give a lick or two) :-) Rachel & Gwen: please excuse my little sister! Rachel & Gwen: i am not afraid of you Vaughn: why? has she done something wrong? Vaughn: sounds like she was teasing you gwen Rachel & Gwen: no just a wise butt Vaughn: lol Rachel & Gwen: she always is Vaughn: and i bet you are always nice to her, right? Rachel & Gwen: i just want to thank you for the picture Vaughn: you are very welcome... Rachel & Gwen: now i am!! Vaughn: so i've heard! Vaughn: your mom says i can send you pictures addressed just to you Rachel & Gwen: well it took a while Vaughn: sisters can fight alot, just as brothers do Rachel & Gwen: she did? oh mom is so great. i did ask her Vaughn: i'm glad she trusts me to send you things Rachel & Gwen: Rachel seems to think mom and i are in love Vaughn: she's your mom, so i assume you love her and she loves you Rachel & Gwen: not that way! Vaughn: hehehe... Vaughn: now i'm teasing you! Rachel & Gwen: oh Vaughn: well, are you in love with her? Vaughn: or should i not ask? Rachel & Gwen: yes Rachel & Gwen: no, rachel knows i am Vaughn: how does that make you feel? Rachel & Gwen: and a little with rachel! Rachel & Gwen: funny Vaughn: well, you two have spent so much time together lately.. Vaughn: i'd be surprised if you weren't! Rachel & Gwen: yes, that we have! hehe Vaughn: do you think you shouldn't be in love with your mom Rachel & Gwen: what do you think? be honest with me ok? Vaughn: i think that if you are truly in love with your mom, and she is in love with you, and you don't feel pressured to do anything you don't want to, its fine.. Vaughn: in fact, it could be very wonderful Vaughn: but you know you have to be careful Rachel & Gwen: and if i do want to do something with her? Rachel & Gwen: yes i know i have to be very careful Vaughn: most other people don't understand this kind of love... Vaughn: even though it is very special and can be wonderful Rachel & Gwen: i don't care about other people! Vaughn: i know...but you have to be careful of them...do you understand what i mean? Rachel & Gwen: i would never tell them Vaughn: it has to be a family secret.... Rachel & Gwen: the only ones to ever know would be sandra, rachel and myself Vaughn: you don't what your dad to know? Rachel & Gwen: and you! so don't tell! Vaughn: hehehe..don't worry...my lips are sealed! Rachel & Gwen: no!!! i never want him to know!! ever Vaughn: gwen, can i ask you a personal question? don't answer if you don't want to, ok? Rachel & Gwen: ok Vaughn: i get the feeling that you don't like your dad as much as you do your mom... Vaughn: i know it is very common actually for kids to not like their parents Rachel & Gwen: that is very, very true Vaughn: so that would be perfectly ok Vaughn: can i ask, is it because of something he has done to you? Rachel & Gwen: good becase i don't Rachel & Gwen: i can't answer that. Vaughn: i know i didn't like my dad very much when i was growing up...we were just so different Vaughn: can i ask why you can't answer it? is it something you want to keep a secret? Vaughn: just tell me to stop asking if i'm pushing to far dear Rachel & Gwen: i can't tell you now Vaughn: its just that i care about you and your sister and mom Vaughn: ok..i will stop asking then... Rachel & Gwen: you might be right Vaughn: but you know, anytime you want to tell me, you can...i will listen and keep your secret Rachel & Gwen: can you read between the lines? Vaughn: yes... Vaughn: very clearly... Rachel & Gwen: good Rachel & Gwen: then you know Vaughn: i'm afraid that i do... Vaughn: if there is anything i can do, ever, you just let me know, ok? Rachel & Gwen: i am the only one who knows here Vaughn: does rachel see what you are typing? Rachel & Gwen: no, i have handled that. and yes rachel is right here Vaughn: ok.... Vaughn: i'm sorry if i upset you... Vaughn: i did't want to raise a painful topic Rachel & Gwen: she is wondering what we are talking about..nothing rachel! Vaughn: a big kiss for you dear...and for rachel! Rachel & Gwen: no, it feels good to have someone else know Vaughn: i hope you are feeling safer these days... Rachel & Gwen: this is something that sandra can never know Vaughn: ok, dear...i understand... Rachel & Gwen: yes. my father is afraid of me Vaughn: it is so important that you feel safe at home.... Rachel & Gwen: i do now and rachel is safe Vaughn: good! Rachel & Gwen: rachel always was safe Rachel & Gwen: i protected her Vaughn: the oldest sometimes has to take on the most responsibility... Vaughn: and take care of things Rachel & Gwen: the most of something!! Vaughn: i'm sure you are a very good sister, even though you tease her sometimes Rachel & Gwen: i did.i wrote a letter and will mail it if anything ever happens ever again Vaughn: that was very smart... Rachel & Gwen: somebody knows i will Vaughn: yes..and i know who... Rachel & Gwen: i feel like i am a thousand pounds lighter Vaughn: i'm so glad... Vaughn: and as i said, you can always talk to me about anything... Vaughn: i would never do anything to hurt you.... Rachel & Gwen: thank you. mom made a rule about email Vaughn: you mean about opening email addressed to someone else? Rachel & Gwen: yes Vaughn: i like being able to email you so only you will see it Rachel & Gwen: rachel sandra and gwen trust each other Vaughn: that is great... Rachel & Gwen: and you now Vaughn: thank you...i've really enjoyed meeting all of you and becoming friends... Rachel & Gwen: and so have i vaughn. Vaughn: :-) Vaughn: tell me, how was your day today? Rachel & Gwen: i think we should go and give you some peace Vaughn: dear, you're like your mom! Vaughn: i have plenty of peace talking to you and rachel... Rachel & Gwen: do you have any idea how much it meant to me to receive that picture? Vaughn: i hoped i found the right one for you... Vaughn: it was hard to decide! Rachel & Gwen: mom is the one who told us not to bug you Vaughn: i know she worries about that...but i've told her a dozen times not to! Rachel & Gwen: it was so nice. mom said you just seem to know what we need Vaughn: if i'm busy or have to to, i'll be very honest and say so.. Vaughn: i hope i've made some good guesses, but its hard to really know... Vaughn: you'll have to help me Rachel & Gwen: do you have many picture like that/ Rachel & Gwen: i will Vaughn: oh yes, i have many...i collect them...my favorite kind of pic Rachel & Gwen: i think it is mine also.. Vaughn: then we have something in common! :-) Rachel & Gwen: very much! hehe Vaughn: you know, i have an number of lesbian friends, and sometimes we go out just girl watching! it's fun! Rachel & Gwen: you do? i would love that! Vaughn: do you think that girls are more interesting to you than boys? Rachel & Gwen: very much so..rachel is my opposite! the little tease! lol Vaughn: well, not completely opposite!...hehehe Rachel & Gwen: except with me Rachel & Gwen: true vaughn Vaughn: and don't be surprised if you interests change..not completely of course, but maybe a little one way or another every now and then as you get older Rachel & Gwen: i know that. i never say never! Vaughn: but if girls are what turn you on, then i think that is great! Rachel & Gwen: i never have had an affair with a woman Vaughn: have you had a boyfriend? Rachel & Gwen: and rachel is the only girl i have ever licked, or let lick me Vaughn: well, i think its a good place to start! Rachel & Gwen: i always have a boyfriend! not that i always want one Vaughn: the boys must pester you all the time Rachel & Gwen: yes Vaughn: does that make rachel jealous...? Rachel & Gwen: rachel is in the bathroom...i am not a virgin Vaughn: oh! i know your mom thinks you are.... Rachel & Gwen: she does Vaughn: is that because of a boyfriend?...or should i not ask? Rachel & Gwen: we examined each other Vaughn: yes, she told me... Rachel & Gwen: no..it was my father..no boy..my father Vaughn: oh dear..... Vaughn: if you don't mind, how old were you? Rachel & Gwen: 9 Vaughn: oh dear! that must have been awful! Rachel & Gwen: yes Vaughn: i can't imagine how bad that was for you Rachel & Gwen: i hated it! i had to suck him Rachel & Gwen: i know what a man's cum is like Vaughn: you are so strong, but it must still give you nightmares Rachel & Gwen: he told me that if i didn't he would do it to rachel so i did it Vaughn: but rachel was only 6 at the time!...i know why you hate him now... Vaughn: if i'd been your brother and knew about it, i would have killed him i think... Rachel & Gwen: we did it until i was 12 Vaughn: he didn't have intercourse with you too, did he? Rachel & Gwen: i will put him in jail if he touches my sis Rachel & Gwen: yes..but not there Vaughn: you certainly are in a position to do that... Rachel & Gwen: and i am not scared Vaughn: what do you mean, not there? you don't mean..behind do you? Rachel & Gwen: yes..there Vaughn: you're very strong....you have him... Vaughn: oh sweetheart... Rachel & Gwen: you are damn right i do vaughn Vaughn: if you never touch a man or want anything to do with them again, i would understand..that would be perfectly natural Vaughn: it makes me angry, hearing what he did... Rachel & Gwen: never tell mom!!! you have to promise Vaughn: dear..i promise...but you know that i think she should know...but i promise.... Vaughn: you can trust me to keep your secret...just promise me that if there is anything i can ever do to help, you will ask me Rachel & Gwen: thank you..maybe someday Rachel & Gwen: whew! lol Rachel & Gwen: glad i am naked! Vaughn: this has been an emotional chat for you..and you wanted to chat with me for some fun..i'm sorry Rachel & Gwen: this had been fun! more that you know! Vaughn: because you'r sweating? Vaughn: i hope you feel better! Rachel & Gwen: yes..i sure am!!! Vaughn: keeping a secret like that can be hard... Rachel & Gwen: much..much better Vaughn: not being able to share it.. Vaughn: good!! Rachel & Gwen: i just did share it Vaughn: i know..and thank you for trusting me... Vaughn: that means a lot to me... Vaughn: i'm going to send you a little something...just for you... Rachel & Gwen: so now you know i sucked my father..and now the best i can wipe that out with rachel Vaughn: i will tell you someting that sandra told me that i think will make you feel even safer.. Rachel & Gwen: isn't licking pussy great! Vaughn: the best!! Rachel & Gwen: what Rachel & Gwen: yes it is! Rachel & Gwen: you should taste her! Vaughn: its my favorite thing in the world! Rachel & Gwen: no wonder! hehe Vaughn: don't you just love the taste? Rachel & Gwen: oh god yes! Vaughn: i like getting real close and just watching... Vaughn: seeing everything close up...its so beautiful... Rachel & Gwen: how many have you licked? Vaughn: hundreds..thousands...almost a million!!!! Vaughn: :-) Vaughn: do you believe that? Rachel & Gwen: when we were doing our exam i just looked and looked at mom's pussy! Rachel & Gwen: yes! lucky you! ;-)) Vaughn: to be honest, i would say maybe 20... Rachel & Gwen: 19 more than me Vaughn: hehe..but i didn't start until i ws much older than you.. Rachel & Gwen: hopefully 18 soon Rachel & Gwen: we will have to tell each other every time we do! lol Vaughn: do you want to start right now? with today? Rachel & Gwen: yes! Vaughn: you go first! Rachel & Gwen: for 10 years Rachel & Gwen: i promise! Vaughn: ok..its a deal! Rachel & Gwen: that means it will be sandra Rachel & Gwen: my first Rachel & Gwen: i love her smell! Vaughn: what about this morning..that's today..does sthat count? Rachel & Gwen: nope! starting right now Vaughn: ok... Rachel & Gwen: i would have one also then Vaughn: from this moment! Vaughn: and me too! hehehe Rachel & Gwen: yes! Rachel & Gwen: maybe we will tie! Vaughn: i think you'll get way ahead of me pretty quickly! Rachel & Gwen: oh damn!! car in drive..have to dress! Rachel & Gwen: bye! Vaughn: ok der...bye! Vaughn: check your email later Rachel & Gwen: i hope! lol Vaughn: kisses.. -------------------- Vaughn: hi dear Vaughn: ok to pvt you this way? Sandra: hi..just sent an email and read your message Sandra: of course! Vaughn: can we chat? do you have time? Sandra: yes for a while Vaughn: i had a nice chat with the girls Vaughn: did they tell you? Sandra: oh! that is so nice! thank you Vaughn: and i sent gwen a little present... Sandra: no..they are..lol..you know where Vaughn: too busy for mom! Sandra: oh vaughn! Vaughn: i told them not to let their school work suffer! Sandra: a present? she will adore you Vaughn: it should be there by now..in an email "for gwen" Sandra: well perhaps they are doing homework...nude!! lol Vaughn: that was so cute... Vaughn: gwen didn't want rachel to tell me she (gwen) was nude too..but she did! Sandra: i am so happy they are sleeping..and other things..together Vaughn: i've been thinking about something dear...i hope you don't mind... Sandra: no..if it was your thought I would never mind Vaughn: i don't really know the situation...all the players as it were..but its about telling your husband.. Sandra: lol! i just wrote you that very thing! honest to god! Vaughn: i'm wondering if you shouldn't wait.... Vaughn: you did!..i'll hve to check my email Sandra: i am going to wait..i just decided that this afternoon Vaughn: yes..and i think you should wait on telling him anything... Vaughn: about putney or the girls together.. Sandra: i don't know why but i feel the same Vaughn: and certainly about the thoughts you and gwen are having... Sandra: oh! I never intended telling him about gwen and me Vaughn: i thought not, but it just came out.. Sandra: nor gwen and rachel Vaughn: it just feels that at this time the less he knows about their sex life the better...i don't know why..maybe i'm being jealous! Sandra: but gwen will have to keep her climaxes down! lol Vaughn: she makes noise? did you get any sleep last night? :-) Sandra: i feel the same..isn't that strange Vaughn: you of course are in a better position to know, but my gut tells me Sandra: yes..i can only hear it out of my bedroom Vaughn: and i think you should only tell him with their permission... Vaughn: does that make sense? Vaughn: almost like its their private life and they should have some say on who knows about it Vaughn: even their dad if that isn't crazy... Sandra: yes! and even if they gave permission i do not think I would.. Vaughn: at least all three of you would have to agree... Vaughn: that just feels right to me... Sandra: i am coming around to that way of thinking Vaughn: i've grown so protective of them so quickly..like an old mother hen... Sandra: now that you know..well i think that is enough Vaughn: and that's your job! don't mean to interfer... Sandra: no vaughn..you have helped them more than their father..that is what i realised this afternoon Vaughn: i think i just happened to come along at the right time... Vaughn: you've done such a good job with them..they are wonderful girls Sandra: oh my god! yes i did know they talked to you! Vaughn: very self-possessed and full of curiosity.. Sandra: my head is a mess! Sandra: they are wonderful vaughn Vaughn: what did they say? Sandra: just that they had talked! and it was in your message Vaughn: yes...i was hoping to catch you my idea... Sandra: and gwen was so happy Vaughn: the first real chat we had... Sandra: yes..your idea Vaughn: there is no way of knowing if she and i will hit it off like you and rachel hve with m Vaughn: with me, i mean Sandra: that is why she was so happy then Vaughn: so it was good to spend some time with her... Sandra: it must have been good for her also Vaughn: she seemed to have fun..and we talked and talked... Vaughn: i let her steer the conversation... Vaughn: to the topics she wanted to talk about... Vaughn: mostly about her and rachel licking each other! lol Sandra: really? usually rachel is the talker..she must like you very much then Vaughn: we agreed that nothing tastes better in this world than a pussy Sandra: i love that smell in their room Vaughn: and that looking at them is the best thing too Sandra: that was gwen..true? Vaughn: the smell of love and desire fulfilled.. Vaughn: yes, gwen.. Vaughn: she's very fond of pussy...we both agreed on that! Sandra: yes you said you wanted to make a pussy section for her Vaughn: we decided that someday we'll go girl watching together... Vaughn: hang out at the mall and ogle the girls walking by...lol Sandra: lol..you two would be perfect! Vaughn: i told her i do that with my lesbian friends... Vaughn: though usually we go to a bar for girl watching! Sandra: you do? Vaughn: yep Sandra: i bet gwen would love to meet a lesbian..i feel she would Vaughn: she's still uncertain about her orientation,, but don't be surprised.. Sandra: i had a feeling vaughn Vaughn: i hope that doesn't bother you... Sandra: but I have no problem with that Vaughn: i can't imagine you would.. Sandra: no..not in the least Vaughn: i don't know how her dad will react, but its best he doesn't suspect for awhile... Sandra: she has boyfriends..yet there is something distant about her Vaughn: yeah, she says they chase after her all the time... Sandra: i will protect her Vaughn: i'm sure she is very pretty...that both of them are..hell, that ll three of you are! Vaughn: i get the feeling she doesn't give them the time of day though Sandra: well 2 out of 3..but thank you! lol Vaughn: like mother, like daughter as they say... Sandra: but they still chase her Vaughn: i have a feeling she knows how to deal with them...i think she's a pretty determined girl when she wants to be Vaughn: she can't do it on her own, of course..but she's strong Sandra: very! but she has chanced..come out of her shell..this past week Vaughn: she's blossoming... Vaughn: it must be delightful to see... Sandra: licking and being licked has helped Vaughn: yes..and knowing its ok with you... Vaughn: that you accept her for herself.. Vaughn: and will let her be her own person.. Sandra: that also..and of course it is Sandra: rachel is like a rocket since sucking putney! lol Vaughn: what do you mean? boucning around the house? Sandra: just bubbling over and it was rachel that got gwen to lick pussy Vaughn: she's a driver!..knows what she wants and goes after it.. Vaughn: i can tell when i chat with them..rachel is almost boucning in her seat it seems... Vaughn: gwen is more thoughtful,, more reservered, careful... Sandra: she does that! and now wants me and gwen to sleep together! Vaughn: she does? what is she thinking do you imagine? Sandra: she said anyone can see gwen and I are in love! Vaughn: she said exactly the same thing to me in chat! Vaughn: right in front of gwen! Sandra: you are family!! lol Vaughn: well, a friend of the family anyway! :-) Sandra: do you think? Vaughn: do i think what love? Sandra: do you think gwen and I could sleep..should sleep together? Vaughn: that's a hard one...basically, i think it could be wonderful...but it all depends on how its approached i would say.. Sandra: she wanted my reaction to the pussy pic you sent yesterday Vaughn: what did you say to her? Sandra: i told her i loved it and that you must know something Vaughn: what was that? Sandra: about us..gwen and myself Vaughn: oh..you mean that I must know something? Sandra: we want to vaughn Vaughn: she has said this to you? Sandra: we want to lick each other..to make love to one another Sandra: yes..and I said it to her..well not in so many words..but yes Vaughn: i'm not surprised..she and i talked about it... Vaughn: but i can't really get into what she said, since it was in confidence...is that ok? Sandra: oh vaughn...and goes she? tell me Vaughn: though you would not surprised by what she told me... Vaughn: regarding that.. Sandra: oh! they no..do not break that trust Vaughn: but i do have some ideas...thoughts..if you would like to hear them.. Sandra: yes..oh yes! Vaughn: and if i'm middling, or overstepping, please tell me..promise? Sandra: i promise Vaughn: ok...gwen strikes me as a girl that really needs to feel safe and accepted... Vaughn: she needs to feel that her needs and desires are ok, and that you approve... Sandra: yes..that is true Sandra: i do approve Vaughn: so the first thing, is to make sure, over and over again, that she knows that you do not think it is wrong of her to want certain things, or think about them.. Sandra: we have talked about that quite a lot recently Vaughn: you know how she held back with rachel for so long because she was afraid you would disapprove.. Vaughn: that you've talked is so good..but i think it takes a while for the reality of the accpetance to sink in..for her really to believe in her heart...do you see what i mean? Sandra: yes! she would never hurt me..it's as if she needs to protect me Vaughn: and under that is a great need to be protected by you...that's paradoxicall i know, but i just feel it about her Sandra: when gwen and rachel were young I was the only one with a job and worked impossible hours..i will never go that again Vaughn: how long has it been that you've been able to spend more time with them? Vaughn: over the last couple of years? Sandra: the past three years..my husband started his training then Vaughn: i see Vaughn: that leads to my second point.... Sandra: maybe four years..no 3 Sandra: yes Vaughn: you need to let her drive the car..if you know what i mean... Vaughn: she has to be the one that comes to you..and feels free to stop or leave the room at any time... Sandra: lol..i shall do that ..i was thinking the same thing Vaughn: you create the "zone" of acceptance and trust..but let her make the moves.. Vaughn: she needs to feel that this is her's to control, and not your agenda forced on her...i'm sorry to say that so bluntly... Sandra: she needs to get her permit and that will be a while yet Sandra: more like rachels agenda!! Vaughn: maybe! Vaughn: lol Vaughn: i've asked rachel and gwen to come in as r and g... Vaughn: helps with that problem... Sandra: maybe with s they will leave me alone Vaughn: where did we leave off? Sandra: rachel (who else!) told me to do that Vaughn: smart girl! Sandra: i think we should leave my desire for gwen for now! lol Vaughn: that's fine...hope i've helped... Sandra: what were you going to do with the site? Vaughn: rachel did ask me about dogsex...and not sucking Vaughn: you mean with the pussy pics? Sandra: oh! yes! vaginal i think Vaughn: yes..i tried to discourage her... Sandra: the problem is the guide made it sound so appealing Vaughn: i know...my point to her was that it would not make a good first time experience with intercourse... Vaughn: that she needed someone who could be gentle and tender, and a dog would just barge ahead regardless.. Sandra: you think..a man? Vaughn: not necessarily, but a first penetration is bound to be scary... Vaughn: and needs just the right emotional (and physical!) touch.. Sandra: i know! Vaughn: i can see another woman with a dildo, done right.. Vaughn: how was your first experience dear? Sandra: oh! Sandra: awful! Vaughn: but my feeling is rachel is probably straight.. Vaughn: yes, most times it is... Vaughn: and that's such a shame.. Sandra: yes..i would like to spare rachel that..and gwen Vaughn: i hope what i said made sense to her... Vaughn: maybe if you were there with her, but still, a dog really has to be controlled in that situation... Vaughn: it can't know to back off or go slow or wait... Sandra: yes..yes it does and a dog even if done correctly may not be the best Vaughn: the first time needs some real emotiona connnection...a sense of saftey and trust..its pretty scary for girls...as you no doubt know!! Sandra: however knowing rachel the dog might be the one in trouble Vaughn: hehehe Vaughn: never know what hit it! lol Sandra: lol..true Sandra: i know what i am about to say night seem crazy Vaughn: go ahead dearest... Sandra: would you ever consider being rachels first? Vaughn: never! :-) Vaughn: lol...just joking... Vaughn: but its too serious of an issue to joke about... Sandra: would you? Vaughn: sorry.. Vaughn: yes Sandra: yes? Vaughn: but it would have to be rachel's decision.. Sandra: I know that Vaughn: and i would have to know it was ok with her...she might not even be attracted to me or like me in person... Vaughn: but the thought is very sweet..thanks so much... Sandra: i know that also Sandra: but this summer..or next Vaughn: we will see... Vaughn: i can't deny that the idea is a lovely one for me... Sandra: but you will think about it? Sandra: and for rachel also vaughn Vaughn: of course i will...but you know that anything like that is complicated and problematical... Sandra: i will have to meet you first..without rachel Vaughn: i though we were talking about rachel... Vaughn: yes, that is certainly true...just you... Vaughn: i think gwen may not want a man at all.... Vaughn: we can go girl watching, but she might very well draw the line there.. Sandra: we are..but i will have to meet you first..over coffee perhaps Sandra: no not gwen! rachel Vaughn: we would have to spend some time together, getting to know each other, before we could even think about anything else.. Sandra: i know that Vaughn: and if we met, i would come with the intention of just meeting you...no other thoughts or agendas... Sandra: exactly! Vaughn: you'd have to do lots of convincing..and rachel too..to make me really sure it was in her best interest... Sandra: if we do not get along i do not think you and rachel will Sandra: vaughn..rachel may well pick a dog for her first time..then what? Vaughn: i would wait to see if that happens.. Vaughn: and try very hard to discourage her... Sandra: but what if you and she are attracted? Vaughn: she will just have to take your word for it, if you agree with me about it that is.. Vaughn: i mean about a dog for the first time... Sandra: no..if we like each other then you would meet Vaughn: dear, let's not talk about that now...its much too soon... Vaughn: we can both think about it... Vaughn: and we'll see what happens... Sandra: no..i will try to convince rachel a dog is not the best Vaughn: its much to special a moment in a girl's life... Vaughn: share with her your own bad experience..that will help i think Sandra: but am tired now..and to tell the truth I do see so many problems..if you lived here it might br possible Vaughn: its been a long day for you... Vaughn: and so much is happening lately.. Sandra: mine was with ...well not a dog but perhaps a dog would have been better Sandra: yes!! better go! Vaughn: i'd like for you to tell me about it sometime...if you want.. Sandra: not thinking very well...lol Vaughn: its been lovely chatting, as always.... Vaughn: give the girls a kiss for me, and my love... Sandra: it was..and gwen is as happy as i have seen her! Vaughn: that makes me feel very good... Sandra: bye!...kisses Vaughn: bye lover...kisses to you too (To be continued...) ___________________________________________________ You are free to repost this story, but only in it's entirety, including author's email address. COPYRIGHT 2003 QUIVERING_FLESHnospam@YAHOO.COM <1st attachment end> ----- ASSM Moderation System Notice------ Notice: This post has been modified from its original format. 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