Message-ID: <36106asstr$1018836605@assm.asstr-mirror.org> Return-Path: <LadyCyrrh@aol.com> From: LadyCyrrh@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <d7.1615ec17.29eb71cc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ASSTR-Original-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 19:59:08 EDT Subject: {ASSM} {REVIEW} The Annex Reviews, 4/14/02 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:10:05 -0400 Path: assm.asstr-mirror.org!not-for-mail X-Is-Review: yes Approved: <assm@asstr-mirror.org> Newsgroups: alt.sex.stories.moderated,alt.sex.stories,alt.sex.stories.d Followup-To: alt.sex.stories.d X-Archived-At: <URL:http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/Year2002/36106> X-Moderator-Contact: ASSTR ASSM moderation <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Story-Submission: <ckought69@hotmail.com> X-Moderator-ID: dennyw, gill-bates Hi everyone. Here's my review of Fanfiction.net to announce my return to reviewing. It's already on the main website; I'm reposting it here as a courtesy, and as a way to show everyone what I've been up to. Which you can see is pretty obscure and deviant stuff, when you finish the review. But. I confess I used to write the stuff myself, so it strikes a certain chord in me. I did this for my inner 14-year-old. ________________________________________________________________ FANFIC NATION I I Was a Teenage Bandslasher As everyone who has read me in the past knows, I have a fascination with X-rated fanfic, and a fascination with slash.(NOTE: Slash is a type of fan fiction where two or more two media characters (TV, movies, books, etc.) are involved in a same-sex relationship. The stories are often rated G to R-17, with G being fairly innocuous and NC-17 pulling out all the stops, e.g. a steamy BDSM relationship... but to describe a story as "slashy" means it contains an angsty, explicit M/M relationship written, mostly, from the viewpoint of a straight woman.) I am continually astounded by slash's audacity, diversity, and constantly changing nature... and continually frustrated by its repetitiveness, naivete, and lack of imagination. Try as I can, I can't stay away. That is why, after a hiatus of nearly two years from reviewing, I am drawn to it yet again to write a review of one of the largest archives in which it may be found, Fanfiction.net. In the twenty months I've been away from the scene I've noticed a change of guard is occurring. There's a shift away from TV-based SF and fantasy fandoms (Star Trek, Xena/Herc, X-files) towards ones based on books and movies (Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings) and celebrities (RPS, or real person slash.) While this may be the affect of certain shows being canceled and certain media blockbusters being born -- as well as the pulping of modern celebrities between red-hot rollers into two- dimensional cartoons -- I also think it's due to the infusion of many, many computer-savvy tweens, teens, and young college-adult adults into the genre who have the time, energy, and bandwidth access to post their slashy and 'shippy (short for "relationship" -- fanfic where where two opposite-sex characters share a sexual relationship) fantasies to the net, fantasies that in other decades might have gone unwritten or languished in locked drawers. How many stories in the pre-net years were awkwardly and hesitantly shared, their authors aflame with the passionate rush of putting deep thoughts and emotions to paper? How many more stories were put to been put to the shameful torch by disposable lighters and flushed down toilet bowls? These days, however, the secret writing life of teens is more visible, for we have Fanfiction.net, an excellent window into their dreams, wishes, and fantasies. Given the growing rise of the genre on the net someone had to do it, I suppose. The site is a huge, tightly programmed, post-it-yourself archive that is remarkably bug-free, a place where anyone can post (with membership) or read (without membership) fanfic in sixteen different genres rated G to NC-17, and a pretty porny/slashy NC-17 at that. Access is free, though donations are requested by PayPal; all you need to post is a password, and to read, nothing at all. Looking for information about the site's creators, I came up with: Founder/Master Chef Xing Li xing@fanfiction.net est. 1998 Shameless resume plug : the master chef of the site, xing li, is fresh off college and is currently seeking a creative design/lead position involving transformation of real-world and human applications to the digital platform. bringing more than 4 years of in-field experience in internet application design with an eye for blending technology and human usability. for more information please email xing@fanfiction.net. non-tech firms are welcomed. Well, I suppose by the success of the site Miss or Mr. Xing has gone on to bigger and better things, or corporate sponsorship, going by the number of pop-up ads for fright wigs and credit cards. If Fanfiction.net was an experiment, it was a damned successful one. There must be about at least a million stories on here, and it's growing daily. No mere after- hours consortium of fanfic writers, this. The stories here are organized by Anime, Books, Cartoons, Comics, Crossovers, Games, Movies, Musical groups, Originals (Note: how can original creations be considered fanfic?), Poetry, TV shows, and Miscellaneous; the site also includes reposted news articles (of media developments and 'digital buzz') and columns solicited from site regulars, whose only stipulation is to be "writers of sufficient length and quality." In addition to English stories are accepted in Spanish, French, German, Portugese, Chinese, Japanese, and Dutch. The design is clean and businesslike, the interface easy and intuitive to use. Not surprisingly, its very accessibility has led to it being taken over by Generation-Y, who have hijacked the terms, storytelling conventions, and manifestos of the established fanfic community and made them their own. Just for fun I clicked randomly on writers' bios. Some were blank or purposefully obscure, but about half contained personal information, with ages that ranged from 13 to 22; of those that volunteered their gender, most were female. The pseudonyms ranged from quirky (Faded Chapstick, Chewable Morphine) to related to their chosen fandom (for Beatles fanfic, monikers such as Marmalade Skye, Flaming Pie, Lady Madonna); many more were fanciful in an anime or She-Ra Masters of the Universe Way (many, many Saber--s, Princess--s, etc.). But before anyone can accuse me of blasting the site as teenybopper pap I will say I was truly impressed by several stories I found on there, teen-written or not; I also came across older writers with more polished material to their credit, including several who had posted in the past to ASS newsgroups. However there is a bias toward younger female writers... which is interesting because they are producing the most explicit slash and fanfic. Unfortunately, from the stories I skimmed, they are also producing a lot of dreck. Unlike years past, when a fanfic writer had to gain the attention of a 'zine editor to showcase his or her work, or go through the learning curve to design a personal website and finding a place to host it, Fanfiction.net has no filters for quality. You submit, and you're automatically accepted; it's like a newsgroup in that respect, but faster, with better formatting. Stories are at once both posted and archived in seconds in an attractive and readable form, and someone's barely readable fifth-period scrawl receives the same treatment as someone else's slash version of War and Peace. (There are reader-submitted reviews, but these are more of a means for writers to communicate with each other than to engender constructive feedback.) In sum, you want a good read, you hafta wade. The archive was too large for even a representational sample, so I decided to narrow my story reviews to one genre: musical group fanfic, and to narrow it further, bandslash. Bandslash has been a longtime interest of mine, but for many years stories have been hard to find on the net. I've come across no more than two dozen sites that had featured it prominently, and those were of specialized fandoms (Duran Duran, Trent Reznor, The Cure.) After the release of the movie Velvet Goldmine in 1998 glamslash story sites and archives began to appear, then sites devoted to Beatle and Monkee stories; it's been accelerating ever since then, with most of the growth occurring in the boyband genre (though other artists like Eminem have developed slashy fandoms as well.) However, no other site I've seen boasts as much bandfic as Fanfiction. net. The Musical Groups section contained 140 different singers and bands, from oldies (Beatles) to rap-metal (Korn, System of a Down) to rap (Li'l Bow Wow, Sisquo) and pop (Britney, N'Sync, Aaron Carter) with many more uncategorized artists listed under Miscellaneous. It serves as a fascinating index of a particular artist's popularity. It also raises some interesting questions. Why, for example, have young people written eighteen stories about Tori Amos, and none about Bjork? Both artists are around the same age and appeal to the same generation. Both have strong, distinctive personalities, and quirky, engaging musical styles. But there you have it. Tori gets the (key)strokes, and Bjork doesn't. And in the field of nu-metal, why do Blink182 (765) and Sum41(596) have such large fanfic fandoms, and not Creed (14) or Godsmack (95)? Is it because Blink182 and Sum41 are currently at the crest of their Gen-Y popularity, while the latter two missed the boat and are headed downwards? And speaking strictly of slash, why hasn't Ricky Martin (4) been written more? He's young, attractive, sexually ambiguous, and has a rich history of past press that's available for research, Not only that, he has a longstanding relationship with fellow ex-Menudoite Chayanne. David Bowie (9) also looks pretty lonely, and I found no stories at all about Mick Jagger or cockrockers Led Zeppelin. On the other hand, there were almost 40 explicit fanfics about the Beatles. Even more puzzling, fandoms present in the other bandslash sites I've seen are not comparatively well represented here. NiN has a mere 14 sex stories and the Spice Girls, once the queens of mindless celebrity sex, only 25. Other artists I'd think would be well represented are not on the site at all. Where are the X-rated fics about Shakira? The Dave Matthews Band? Kurt Cobain? Why does the sexually charged, porn star-loving Kid Rock rate only two stories? Why does Linkin Park (976) have four times more than Limp Bizkit (163) ? Who knows. I can only assume some artists have an aura of respectability, 'don't mess with me,' or even boringness that does not lend itself well to the freeform play that fanfic, especially sexual fanfic, involves. I also imagine the real-life sexual shenanigans of some leave no more to be said. Taking the plunge, I found the archive was very fast and worked smoothly. Searches could be narrowed by date posted, author, story type (general, action/adventure, romance, humor, drama, poetry, mystery, parody, angst) and rating (G to NC-17.) The archive has a keyword function as well, but it does not do strings. For example, 'slave" brings back summaries containing that word and most likely that story element, but type in "Jimmy Page" and you get lots of stories about, or written by, Jimmy, or Page, and lots of summaries about 'turning the page' but no Jimmy Page, and certainly no stories about Jimmy Page being enslaved, which is something I would have had great interest in reading. But, on with the review. Each story had a one-sentence summary that was literate but not too helpful, containing in some cases admonitions like "it's my first try, so pleaz be gentle" and "LOL, you'll just have to read it" and "I wrote this back in 10th, I was really bored in History." (Yes, I am being cruel.) Some stories were short, under 500 words; others, multichapter epics that approached novel size. Off the bat I realized that most were not of high quality. A few were execrable; most were more or less readable, and probably entertaining if you're not too demanding. But there was little attempt to come up with believable plots or characterizations, or believable anything, in fact. Most read like shared visualizations rather than stories (some authors even called them 'visuals.') A common fault in fanfic, but one that, by sheer investiture of research and imagination in the material, writers can overcome. But many of the stories here read like they've been scribbled between math and soc studies class. Not a lot thought or logic seems to have gone into them, which, given the demographic, is understandable. I also found several indications the site's creators are a little asleep at the wheel. For example, without too much searching I found a child pornography story which had nothing to do with fanfic and shouldn't have been there, and many of the explicit NC-17 stories which should have had ADULT WARNING popup windows, didn't. Then there's all that RPS (real person slash) which is currently at the center of a heated controversy in the fanfic world, not the least because it can engender lawsuits. Author Anne Rice chased a lot of her fanfic-writing fans off the net with that very threat. But, I guess a site as corporate as this one has deep pockets, or has the advice of some good lawyers, or something. (Shortly after this review was posted, the site's creators announced they would no longer accept real person stories.) To narrow down the field I chose seven groups that I had some familiarity with (but was not necessarily a fan of) that were representational of different styles and eras. I picked two stories each from the Beatles and Britney Spears fandoms, and one each from Queen, U2, the Gorillaz, the Smashing Pumpkins, and Motley Crue. My choices were semi-random, meaning I picked those that looked interesting but seemed typical of their genre. In addition to the groups and stories listed I skimmed many more. The amount of physical and emotional abuse some stories contained surprised me. It seems to be a growing trend in the fanfic world. Rape, brother-brother incest, child molestation, BDSM, snuff, you name it... pretty severe stuff that's come to be known as darkfic. (I'll wait until Fanfic Nation II to tell you about the Hanson disembowelment story I found.) Now anyone who's a teenager or is the parent of a teenager knows they like violent, emotionally wrenching stuff; I remember S.E. Hinton's Outsider series of books being very popular when I was 14, and Mercedes Lackey's Valdemar series, which features all manners of child abuse, torture, rape, and suicide, remain perennial high school faves, as does the graphic novel "The Crow." But even I was unprepared for what George Harrison does to John Lennon in Kavie's "Alpha and Omega" -- he dominates, slaps, humiliates, duct-tapes, and rapes his bandmate, inciting in John flashbacks of past sexual abuse at the hands of his mother, and, to his horror, the realization that he enjoys being sexually abused. I consider myself squickproof as regards porn, but even I found it very hard to read... but to be honest, because I felt I knew these characters intimately from their media portrayals, there was a sick fascination in reading them act the way they did, even though it was out of character. It took me back to being 14 again and scribbling my own abusive bandfic in secret journals, and I suspect the defiance and sheer glee many bandslash authors take in their work comes from the knowledge they're doing something very, very bad and naughty on a number of levels (one writer's comment: "I find something deliciously subversive in slashing baby boomer idols.") This story was also one of the pieces of fanfic that could only work as fanfic; change the two main characters into imaginary ones, and most of the shocking impact is lost. I could analyze this story more, but I really don't want to read it again. More sexual cruelty took place in the Gorillaz story, "2D: The Enigma" by Duo Maxwell the Shinigami. The Gorillaz are an imaginary hiphop group depicted in videos by four stylized cartoon characters; in the story little 2D, a punky, nihilistic 14-year-old boy, is the subject of a semi-brutal fuck by Murdoc, an angry vampire-hunter, or something. I can guess the animated characters' charm and simplicity might lead some teens to project their fantasies onto them, but I couldn't help visualizing the toonie slash with some distaste; in another life I was an artist and so am a very visual person. (Lest you think I was deliberately picking sexually sadistic stories, neither this one or the Queen or Motley Crue stories below said anything about it in the summary.) That the story had one of the weirdest attempts at kewlspeak I've seen ("Yoo know, Stu-pot, we could go wi'wot th'music's sayin'. Lust's th'mother 'f life.") did not count in its favor either. The U2 and Smashing Pumpkins stories ("A Picture Book With Colour Photographs" by Edgette, and "Thank You" by JonesStarr) had more loving sex, typifying the 'encounter' fic where one band member approaches another as he's alone in the recording studio/hotel room/tour bus to declare, awkwardly, his long-buried feelings of love, followed by a physical consummation between the two. Well, I guess bandslashers probably *wish* sex was this sincere and easy; but there was little differentiating the sexual encounter between Bono and The Edge, and Billy Corgan and James Iha, save for the characters' names and the throwaway mention of 'blue eyes' or 'chestnut hair.' (Iha was not even mentioned as being Japanese.) The same problem occurred in Lil Mad's "I Want You to Need Me" where we never find out the narrator is Paul McCartney until three paragraphs from the end of the story. We know John Lennon climbed into bed with someone, but don't know if it's a man or woman, not even from the sex, and certainly not from the sappy Celine Dion lyrics at the beginning of the story. These stories have been written, and re-written, tens of thousands of times over by slashers all over the net, and unless someone actually injects the musician's personality into them, or some plot and interesting settings, they're boring. Aries' Queen story, "Hair" was more entertaining, revealing an interesting hair and makeup fetish. While getting ready for a show John Deacon, the least attractive member of the group, announces he's going to chop off his long, flowing locks, and the other two members (I guess Freddy Mercury was taking a cooler) joke about it. Lots of goodnatured banter and physical teasing ensues, which descends, again, into sexual predation, leading up to a group fuck featuring cigarette burns, blood, and bondage. Okay, I did get a naughty thrill out of this one. It exemplifies what good bandslash should be: light, frothy, yet fraught with sexual danger and tension, and the band members acting in character with themselves -- or rather in character with the public or historical image of themselves -- which, in Queen's case, means clever, campy, and prone to primping in front of mirrors. I was also pleasantly surprised by Ang Griffen's Motley Crue story "Run with the Pack." I had considered Motley Crue unslashable, as they are so surfeited with deviant sex there's little more one can add. But the author makes the most of an almost-threeway between Nikki Sixx, Tommy Lee, and a drunk groupie in a closet -- as Tommy pumps away Nikki rubs his dick on his bare butt, with more than a hint of attraction towards Tommy himself. Though brief it was very well handled, both because of the believability quotient (it was something the band might have really done) and because the terse, fuck-it-all quality of the prose matched Motley's Crue's outlaw attitude. I don't know what it says about me that I found the two glam rocker stories the most appealing. I will note I hate Motley Crue with a passion in real life, thought I admit Tommy Lee is a good-looking guy. But I thought James Iha was cute, too, and so was pre- cue ball Billy. We are back in familiar territory with Britney Spears; being young and female, she is more amenable to traditional porn treatment. In sumyunguy's "Hot Wet Summer" she decides she doesn't want to be a virgin anymore and so dumps Justin and nabs a real he-boy while on vacation. This was the most poorly written of the bunch (it was authored by a male) and, frankly, rather refreshing after all the slashy angst and torture that went before. "WOW OMG that was sooooo amazingly good! I loved your story. I hope you write alot more because this one was so good. I was so into reading it. Thanks alot for the great story," was a typical review. Britney is written from a female perspective in "Lake Placid" by timberlakespears; Britney and Justin consummate their relationship in a hotel room, complete with black nightie, roses, and thong. Romantic utterances are exchanged, like "We don't have much time" and "I'm going to miss you so much." Though nothing spectacular happened, I admit it was tasteful and wholesome, and if my teenager was going to have sex, I'd rather it be like this, or in anticipation of this. (Justin even uses a condom.) It was kind of insipid to an adult, but in keeping with the plastic nature of Justin and Britney themselves, I suppose. (Side note: it's almost canon that male bandfic characters wear boxers -- not tighty-whities, not Y-fronts, not briefs -- boxers. *Every* *Damn* *One* of these stories had boxers in them. Female protagonists, on the hand, seem to wear thongs.) I was going to review a Rolling Stones fanfic novel from the same site, but after so much reading and skimming these past ten days, I couldn't. Burnt out on bandfics, sorry. Why teens and YAs write these things? Well, for some it may be imitative; they've seen the work of established fanfic writers and want to try it for themselves. Certainly the sex scenes seem derived from the older fics. Other teens may like the sense of community that comes from posting their work and reading that of their friends. Almost all of the writers asked for feedback or reviews, which I realized was a touching plea to legitimize rather than critique. I can guess they just want to find someone who shares the same thoughts that they do. Writers of the more brutal fanfic may like the transgression, pushing the limits of what's acceptable in both writing and in one's fantasy life. Others, I suspect, use the artists they love and admire as proxies to endure their own pain (one writer noted her System of a Down kidnap/rape story enabled her to work out her feelings involving her own rape.) Most writers probably write for all of these reasons; fanfic, after all, offers a safe, distanced way for teens and YAs to acknowledge each others' sexual natures and become comfortable with them. So is this site worth your time, as a source of either sex stories or fanfic, or a combination of the two? It depends. I found it interesting, shocking, and amusing, but I also spent a lot of time looking, about eight hours total, I'll judge. You might not be so motivated. It is an excellent source, however, of stories you might never find anywhere else, and for that I encourage a look. Interface: A Content: A/C- Will I visit again: Yes. --- Lady Cyrrh --->http://members.aol.com/ladycyrrh -- Pursuant to the Berne Convention, this work is copyright with all rights reserved by its author unless explicitly indicated. +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | alt.sex.stories.moderated ----- send stories to: <ckought69@hotmail.com> | | FAQ: <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org/faq.html> Moderator: <story-ckought69@hotmail.com> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Discuss this story and others in alt.sex.stories.d, look for subject {ASSD}| |Archive at <http://assm.asstr-mirror.org> Hosted by <http://www.asstr-mirror.org> | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+