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Understand
me
Dauphin
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Welcome
to the Dauphin Show. Tonight we are speaking to a family and
neighbourhood that has been shook by what many see as abuse. May
others see it as a medical condition, many others see it as a
confused family
When
a family sends their boy to a ballet class, and he is not
accepted, what do you do? Is the answer to send him to another
ballet class dressed as a girl? Is this abuse? Just what is the
family thinking?
Now
there are shouts that the boy will be removed from his parents and
put in foster care. There are shouts for the boy to get
professional help? But the community is divided.
The
Dauphin show has invited all the opposing sides, so we can try to
understand the boy, the family and the people that have been
outraged over this.
Many
of us has seen Billy Elliot, this story could remind us about
Billy Elliot, the extreme version that has made many people happy
and unhappy.
Welcome
to the Dauphin Show.
I
would like to welcome our first guest. He is 11 years old. His
name is Jadyn.
(Jadyn
sits down on the chair)
It
is very brave for you to be here Jadyn. There will be many things
said that could embarrass you. If you feel uncomfortable at any
time, then tell me. Why did you agree to put your life on the
Dauphin show where so many will read about it?
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Jadyn
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Everyone
knows about me in the neighbourhood. I do not think that my
parents or I did anything wrong. I think they should hear our side
of the story. Also there may be others out there like me. I
don’t want them to feel bad about following their dreams.
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Dauphin:
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So
you want to inspire others. What if people thinks that your dreams
were wrong, you know immoral. Or even a sin? Should people follow
their dreams so?
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Jadyn:
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A
sin is when you hurt someone else. I hope people will see that I
was not forced to do anything. No one was hurt.
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Dauphin:
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Tell
me about your family
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Jadyn
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I
have a Dad. He works at an unemployment office, helping people get
work. My Mom works at home. Then I have an older brother. He is 14
and one of the cool children at school. Finally I have a sister.
She is 9 years old. I am nearly 11.
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Dauphin:
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Have
you always been in girl things?
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Jadyn
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I
suppose I have. When I got presents at Christmas or something, I
would always wished that I would get my sisters presents.
Sometimes I felt strange, because I even liked the pretty clothes
that she got. Especially the tights and panties and the dresses.
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Dauphin:
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This
is a hard question. Many think that they are a girl born with a
boy’s body. Do you think that you are a girl in a boy’s body?
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Jadyn:
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I
don't know.
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Dauphin:
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I
think its time to meet Jadyn's Mother. Please give a nice welcome
to Jadyn’s mother. What do you think of what Jadyn just
said?
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Mother:
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Jadyn
is very wise for his age. He is right. When a girl wears boy’s
clothes and wants to do their activities, they are seen as
tomboys, and nothing is done. When a boy wants to do something
that is traditionally a girl’s activity, or are interested in
their clothes or toys, they are seen as sissies, someone that is
nearly mentally ill. Someone that needs help. None of the problems
my family has now would not happen if my daughter wanted to play
football or refused to wear girl clothes.
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Dauphin
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So
Jadyn has always been interested in girl Clothes and toys and
activities.
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Mother
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I
suppose this is true. Does this mean that he should be in an
institution? Being taken away from his parents?
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Dauphin
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Here
is a question from a member of the audience. You gave birth to a
son. Then you were pregnant with Jadyn, Did you want a daughter?
Jadyn is quite a girlish name after all.
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Mother
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I
always wanted a daughter. I thought deep down that Jadyn was a
girl when I was pregnant and Jadyn was the only name I thought of.
When he was born, I was delighted that he was my second son. He
was healthy. I was told that Jadyn was a unisex name and that I
could use that name
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Dauphin
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Do
you think that you tried to raise him as a daughter; maybe you
were not aware of it. You wanted a daughter and many would say
that you raised him as a daughter
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Mother
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Short
after Jadyn was born, I was blessed with a daughter. I love all my
children. Jadyn had special wishes, and I will not hide the fact
that we were confused or sometimes discussed what we should do.
Everything that we did was Jadyn’s own wish. We discussed it and
discussed, and at the end we only wanted him to be happy
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Jadyn
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Mom
or Dad never forced me to do anything. They love me.
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Dauphin
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I
would like to hear from the neighbours. I would like to welcome
Miss Wilson. She lives next door. She is 53 years old and is a
housemother.
Mrs.
Wilson, what was your impression of the family before the
controversy started?
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Neighbour
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There
are a lot of families that lives on our road, and this family
seemed like any other family. I do not look through the windows to
spy on them. My impression was that they were a happy family. But
as I said, you can appear happy and not know what happens when the
doors close.
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Dauphin
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Were
you friends with the family? I mean did you ever drink coffee over
there?
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Neighbour:
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Yes
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Dauphin
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What
was your impression so?
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Neighbour
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Jadyn's
mother is very nice to talk to, and I always felt welcome there.
She has lovely children. It was first much later that I thought
something was wrong,
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Mother
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You
mean something wrong in your eyes.
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Dauphin:
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What
about Jadyn, what was your impression of him at the start?
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Neighbour:
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The
oldest boy was charming, always full of mischief, and the daughter
was so sweet, and was and is very good at talking. But Jadyn was
something special. Very quiet and very feminine. I remember the
first time I seen him, I thought he was a girl. Long wavy hair and
those eyes and face. His clothes were somewhat unisex. His sister
could easily have worn them. There was something strange about
him.
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Mother
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See
this is where the problem is. First his clothes were boy clothes.
His hair might be long, but it suits him and he likes it. You are
without knowing it judging my son on your own standards. Let him
be himself.
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Neighbour
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But
I do think that many would mistake Jadyn as a girl at the first
glance. This can lead to teasing, and you should try to make him
look like a boy
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Mother
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Make?
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Dauphin
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I
think its time that we invite Jadyn's father.
Welcome
to the Dauphin show. What do you think of what has been said so
far?
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Father
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This
whole thing is strange. I mean Our neighbor thinks that it is
strange that Jadyn is a bit feminine. She could have said sissy if
that’s what she means. On the other hand, If Jadyn had punk hair
and tattoos, then that would be just as bad. Is the important
thing that Jadyn is happy?
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Neighbour
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He
could have been raised as a girl. He does not know any alternative
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Jadyn
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I
am happy
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Father
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Jadyn
was not raised as a girl. I think my wife made that very clear. He
had some wishes and wanted to try things. We discussed them and
agreed that he could try. A party of growing up is experimenting
and finding out that you really are.
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Dauphin
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Does
it make you sad when people call your son sissy?
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Father
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Lets
be honest, no one wants their son to be a sissy. I want my
children to find out who they are. I don’t care if they are gay,
sissies or nerds. I am more worried that they will be in gangs, be
molested, take drugs or be depressed. When We raise our children,
we teach them what’s right and what’s wrong. To know whom they
are. That is more important.
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Dauphin
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Now
I would like to introduce Jadyns brother. He is 14
Welcome
to the show. So what do you think about Jadyn?
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Brother
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He
is a bit of a wimp
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Jadyn
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No
I’m not
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Brother
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Yes
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Jadyn
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No
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Brother
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Yes.
Sometimes I have to protect him at school because he gets teased.
But he is my brother, and I accept him even though many thinks he
is weird. It is a bit embarrassing being here to talk about Jadyn,
who everyone thinks is a sissy. But we are family. We support each
other
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Dauphin
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Wow.
Lets see what your sister thinks
Welcome
to the show. What do you think about Jadyn
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Sister
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I
am so happy to have Jadyn as a brother. I feel sorry that he is in
the newspapers and TV so much and everyone thinks he is weird. He
is a nice brother, and I really love him as a brother.
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Dauphin
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Do
you ever consider him as a sister?
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Sister
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Sometimes
I pretend he is. I know he is a boy and he acts like a boy in many
things. But I do miss having a sister
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Dauphin
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Lets
get moving on. Jadyn, why did you want to start at ballet?
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Jadyn
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My
sister started at ballet, so I wanted to try it. I seen her
practice and it looked very fun.
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Dauphin
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What
is it that you liked about it?
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Sister
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He
used to help me practice, he used to do the exercises on the bars
in my room and he was just as good as me. Sometimes he even tried
my tights on and leotard
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Jadyn
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But
I did not try on the Tutu. I remember the first time we practiced;
we were lifting our legs back. I felt so free. I felt like a swan.
Then my sister showed me how to do some moves, like twirls and
things, and it was like I was dancing on a cloud.
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Dauphin
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What
about the tights and leotard?
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Jadyn
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That
was my idea. I just wanted to see if it felt better when they were
on. I remember when I put on the tights. The sensation was so
strange. It was the best sensation that I ever had. It was like
rubbing my legs with silk. They were so soft and then when I put
on the leotard, It felt much better than the shorts I usually
wore. I felt like a ballerina.
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Sister
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He
looked like one too. I used to help put his hair in a ponytail and
then he looked like a girl. So it was fun pretending that I was
practicing with a girl. He was so good that I said he should ask
Mom if he could start. He said Ballet was only for girls. I said
that’s nonsense If he liked it, then he should try it.
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Dauphin
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What
about the parents, did you know he was dressing up as a ballerina?
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Father
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Not
at the beginning. It was my wife that told me. First I thought
that it has to be stopped. He was doing something wrong. If he
continued, it would make him gay.
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Mother
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I
found them one day. I was surprised first that they looked like
twins, and that he was so good.
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Jadyn
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I
asked my mom if I could start ballet
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Mother
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This
is the last question you expect your son to ask you. I talked with
my husband and said we should let him try, but talk to him about
wearing shorts when he was doing ballet. The point is that boys
could be ballet dancers and this doesn’t mean that they had to
be ballerinas. I also warned him that his friends maybe tease him
and make fun of him, as ballet is not a common thing for boys.
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Jadyn
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I
was disappointed that I could not wear tights and a leotard, but
understood Mum. We agreed that I could wear them at home. It was
hard for Dad to accept but I kept on saying it’s only a game.
Then he said some male dancers are famous, and it would be a good
place to find a girlfriend.
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Mother
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That’s
just like my husband; he can see the positive in everything, as
long as no one is hurt. Of course Jadyn was too young to start
with a girlfriend
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Jadyn
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I
could have a girlfriend if I wanted to Mum.
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Dauphin
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So
let me understand this. It must have been hard for you as a father
that your son was going to start at ballet.
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Father
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Yes,
you’re right. I mean it would be better if he played basketball,
Football or something like that. But I respected and admired Jadyn.
He was told that he would be teased and that people would think he
is a sissy. His courage taught me something. Follow your dreams. I
could have been a bad father if I just wanted my son to do what I
wanted him to do, and not really what he wanted to
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Dauphin
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What
about your brother starting at ballet?
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Brother
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When
I heard that he was going to start at ballet, I laughed. I mean
come on, everyone knows girls do ballet. But I have been living
with Jadyn since he was born. I knew that he did not follow what
people thought was normal. I knew he would be teased, and was
afraid that he would be beat up.
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Dauphin
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So
what was ballet like?
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Jadyn
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I
went to ballet, and of course I was the only boy. The teacher was
quite surprised to see me there. I missed not wearing my leotard
and tights, but I knew that I would be teased if I wore them. The
teacher was quite surprised on how good I was.
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Dauphin
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So
you liked ballet
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Jadyn
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I loved
ballet. I just
didn’t like that some were so mean. I loved the dancing but I
missed the clothes
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Dauphin
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So
what did you do about that?
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Sister
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That
wasn’t Jadyns fault. It was mine. Jadyn told me he loved ballet
and we all knew that because he always practiced and Jadyn was and
is one of the best dancers. One day he told me he had a problem
and that he couldn’t tell because it was so weird. I could see
that it was a huge problem and he was deep sad down. Jadyn told me
he had no one to speak to. It was to embarrassing for him to tell
someone. He couldn’t tell Mum or Dad.
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Dauphin
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What
was it?
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Jadyn
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I
loved the dancing, but I was used to the tights and leotards. I
couldn’t say that to Mum or Dad. But it made me sad, as if
something was missing. I told my sister because we knew each
other’s secret.
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Sister
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Then
I thought and thought and said we were the same size. He said so
what. So I said that he could wear my panties to ballet and then
maybe that would help him.
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Mother
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Jadyn,
is that right?
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Jadyn
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Yes.
I tried on her panties and then went to ballet with them on. It
didn’t solve the problem. In fact caused a new problem. When I
tried her panties on, I thought that they were so nice and soft.
They were better than my boy’s underwear. I felt so confused and
weird then, and not normal.
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Father
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We
knew about the panties later, but we never knew how it started. I
wish you came to us. It would have confused me. But you should not
have been alone.
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Dauphin
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Its
time for another guest. I would like to welcome Joanne. She was
one of the other girls at the ballet class
Welcome
to the show. So what was the reaction when Jadyn started at Ballet
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Joanne
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I
never thought I would be on this show.
When
we heard a boy was starting at ballet, we all were confused. I
mean boys don’t do ballet. Then we all hoped he would be cute.
Jadyn
started and I must admit that he did look like a girl with his
small body and face and hair.
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Dauphin
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Did
you or the others tease him?
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Joanne
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Not
that much. I mean if he wanted to do ballet, then it was up to
him. We asked him a lot why he liked ballet. But he was good at
it.
Once
he was teased because when he was doing leg stretches, this girl
said that he was wearing panties. Everyone started calling Jadyn
ballerina then. Until today I didn’t believe it.
Some
girls teased him a lot after that. Everyone thought that he was a
sissy. It must have been hard for him to go to ballet then.
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Jadyn
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It
was. She did see my panties. My own fault that I was wearing baggy
shorts. After that it was fun dancing, but the teasing got bad.
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Dauphin
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We
have another guest. His name is Richard and he is in Jadyns class.
Welcome
to the show Richard. What happened at school when Jadyn started at
ballet?
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Richard
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We
didn’t understand it. Only sissies did ballet, so Jadyn was
teased a lot. We called him ballerina and girl and sissy. Its not
nice teasing but it was hard not teasing him. I don’t think any
boys knew what really happened at ballet. We just thought that
they went around in tutus on their toes.
Sometimes
Jadyn cried when we teased him, and this means that he acts more
like a girl. I mean boys shouldn’t cry.
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Mother
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That’s
the way we raise boys. We tell them that they shouldn’t cry but
they should be allowed to cry
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Neighbour
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Or
You can say by feminizing your son, you made him a victim and
someone that is easy to tease.
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Jadyn
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I
do get teased at school. Its not fun getting teased and being
called names like sissy just because you are good at dancing and
like it.
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Dauphin
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Richard
was it just the ballet or was Jadyn a sissy in more ways than just
being dancing?
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Richard
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Look
at his hair. I mean its nicer than most of the other girls hair.
It didn’t help that sometimes he wore pink clothes or sometimes
there were flowers on them.
His
body is also like a girl. I mean his arms are so skinny. He just
looks like a girl and that made us tease him. It was not just
teasing, it was also us telling him that we thought he was weird.
I mean which boy wants to look like a girl?
Then
we all heard that he wore panties and that just made it worse.
Once
after gym, we were changing clothes and we noticed that he was
wearing panties. It was hard to see they were panties, but if you
looked close, you could see that they had a little ribbon on.
Lucky for him, he put his clothes on quick and not everyone seen
it. But enough people teased him and we all
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Dauphin
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We
can remember the Hanson boys in the 1990’s. They did look like
girls with their long hair. As parents, do you think it was your
responsibility to make Jadyn less feminine so he will not be a
target at school and at dance
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Neighbour
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I
think that it is the parent’s responsibility. Ok, some boys have
long hair and it could be in the fashion. But when parents know
that Jadyn is being teased, they should have done something about
it, so he would not have had any troubles in School. Maybe cut his
hair, or play some sport or wear other clothes. I would have done
that if it were my son.
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Mother
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That
is why your children have no contact with you anymore
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Dauphin
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You
can all see that this is a controversial topic. To get a bit of
professional help and insight, we have yet another chair. I would
like to welcome the child psychologist Dr. Steve
Hope
you can find some place to sit. Have you any comments from what
you heard until now. Is this parent’s fault?
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Dr
Steve
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From
what I hear, this family is a very close family that loves each
other. That is the most important aspect of a family. However love
can be blind. We cannot just ignore social pressures and social
prejudices. We have to guard our children against them.
At
the same time, I see nothing wrong at Jadyn started at ballet.
What should have happened here was some support from the school to
educate Richards friends that there is nothing wrong with it
I
have no criticism for the parents, but Jadyn already showed some
signs that he was a transgender at this stage. I think parents
should get help from a doctor or psychiatrist so they and the
child do not feel alone or weird. I am sure that there were signs
that Jadyn preferred to be dressed like a girl and do girls
things. We have already heard about wearing tights and panties.
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Father
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That’s
what a typical shrink would say, come and we spend all our money
on listening to what Fraued wanted us to believe.
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Dr
Steve
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The
problem is that Jadyn was confused about why he liked the tights
and panties and Leotard. He was confused why he liked ballet and
other boys did not. So were you as parents. You were confused why
your son liked these things. A shrink as you call us, could have
helped you understand and help Richard understand who he was and
that it does not make him a freak.
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Dauphin
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I
would like to ask the parents, was Jadyn acting more and more like
a girl?
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Mother
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Yes.
He played a lot with his sister at the time. They would play with
dolls, try her clothes on and basically they were like sisters. At
one stage, I wanted to cut his short. Jadyn was hysterical for
days and at the end we made a deal that it would not go down to
his shoulders, but it could be a bit long.
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Sister
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I
knew he was my brother, and I was happy that he wanted to play
with me. I know it was sissy like to try on my dresses and play
with dolls. But I just thought that he was a cool brother.
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Brother
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You
would never see me play those things with my sister, and
especially not wear dresses and things. I did tease my brother and
I know this hurt him. I teased because I wanted him to be normal
and I knew if people at school knew this, he would be teased.
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Mother
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What
is normal?
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Jadyn
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My
sister and I are nearly the same age. That’s why we played with
each other. I didn’t mind playing with dolls or make up or
playing house. I thought it was quite fun. It let me escape from
the teasing that I experienced at school and dance.
I
started to try on her clothes when we played house or been models
or something. I liked the way they felt. Even putting a dress over
my shoulder makes my heart beat faster and when I have it on, I
feel that I finally belonged to this world
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Neighbour
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I
don’t understand this. You as parents should have put a stop to
this. Your son dressing like a girl is simply abuse if you did not
stop it.
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Dr
Steve
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I
do not think this is true. We live in a restrictive society where
everything is black and white. Where things are right and wrong.
If we bother to listen to Jadyn, we can hear that he was having a
problem deep down. An identity problem. Why did he feel more like
he was alive when he was playing as a girl or acting like a girl?
What Jadyn needs is a person that understand him, not people that
condemns the parents he loves. He needs to understand and accept
who he is, not feel guilty about it.
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Dauphin
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Jadyn
was being teased in school and at Dance. He quickly has symptoms
of depression. His only escape was when he was with his sister.
Then his mother had a plan. What was this plan?
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Mother
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No
one likes seeing his or her child sad. I knew that Jadyn was
special and others did not accept him. He was being teased and I
was afraid that this would end up in violent bullying.
So
I spoke with my husband, and we agreed on one thing. Jadyn should
have the opportunity to continue at Ballet. It was his favourite
thing. As parents we would have to do something radical
We
decided that he would stop dancing at the local dance school and
tell his friends that he would not dance.
Then
we would enroll him in Madame Nikitas dancing school. We would
enroll him as a girl. He would wear the girl dance clothes and
that was our outrageous plan.
I
know we sound like bad parents, but deep down we thought that the
problems would stop.
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Dauphin
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As
a father, did you agree with this solution?
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Father
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It
took me a lot of time. I mean we were discussing accepting that
our son was a sissy. We were accepting that he could pretend he
was a girl in public.
Which
father would think this was what he dreamt of when he had a son
But
as my wife said, the alternative was a son that was sad and
depressed. The alternative could have been that some boys at
school would beat him up and he could end in a hospital.
Loving
your children means accepting the way they are, not the way you
want to be. I am sure that others would like us to bring out the
boy in him. But this is not love. It is abuse. It is not accepting
who they really are.
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Brother
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When
I heard this first, I was shocked. Was my parent’s crazy and
getting all soft. Were they going to let Jadyn go to the new dance
school dressed as a girl? He was my brother, if this was known,
people would start teasing me as well.
I
got mad at my parents. I said that that they were doing something
wrong
My
Dad explained that others would think it was wrong, but that is
because society cannot see the problems that Jadyn was having.
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Dauphin
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How
was it starting at Madame Nikitas school?
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Jadyn
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I
remember the first time that I went. My sister was helping me put
on my tights and leotards on. I could do it myself but I think she
wanted to help me. It felt like the most exciting day in my life.
Here I was with panties and tights and leotards and was about to
go to ballet and tell everyone that I was a girl. Mum put one of
my sister’s tracksuits on me and put my hair in a ponytail. I
looked in a mirror and my heart jumped.
I
was afraid that they would see that I was a boy. This was my
chance of doing something that I wanted and I couldn’t take it
if I was being teased.
I
was quiet all the way in the car. A part of me wanted to tell mum
to turn around and take me home. But deep down I was excited.
We
came to the dance school. I changed and walked in where there were
7 other girls. The ballet lesson went very well. I did all the
exercises and the teacher said that I was very good. I don’t
think I ever did better. I felt like I was one of the other girls.
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Dauphin
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What
was it like as a mother taking your son to the ballet as a girl?
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Mother
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When
I was helping Jadyn, I thought what clothes should he wear. Some
part of me was saying that he would look pretty in a summer dress,
and another part was reminding me that he was a boy, and if he was
confused about his gender that It should be at his own pace.
I
felt guilty putting his hair in a ponytail. Then he got his tights
and leotards on and I was nearly in tears. I was thinking why is
this happening to me? Why can’t I have a normal family? Why am I
dressing my son as a girl?
Then
I looked at Jadyns face and even though he looked like a girl, I
could see him smile and there was peace in him that I have not
seen in a long time.
Even
when he was in ballet class, I noticed that he looked so peaceful
and happy. No one could see that he was a boy and I must admit
that I was proud of him that he was doing so well.
|
Dauphin
|
What
was it like for the others that Jadyn suddenly was pretending to
be a girl at a ballet class?
|
Brother
|
I
felt sorry for him. He was now being a sissy in public. I remember
when I first seen him going, I thought that he really looked like
a girl. He should watch out, maybe some boy would fancy him. I
wanted to tease him about this but decided to keep my mouth shut,
as it must have been hard enough for him.
Yes,
I felt sorry for him but at the same time, I thought it was his
own fault. I mean he could have been a bit normal.
|
Father
|
The
day that Jadyn was starting at ballet, I was late at work. I
didn’t have to work late. I was just being a coward. I didn’t
want to see my son dressed as a ballerina. I knew I gave my
consent. I was just worried about the consequences. Were we doing
something wrong and were we making Jadyn even more confused than
he was.
|
Dauphin
|
So
after a few times at ballet, was it easier? I am sure everyone
wants to know, did you consider yourself as a girl or as a boy?
|
Jadyn
|
After
the first time, there was no problem. The other girls treated me
nice and even asked me to help them with the ballet. When there
were breaks, we just sat and gossiped about everything. I often
thought that my brother would be bored if he had to listen to
this, They talked about clothes and make up and boys.
Once
they wondered why I didn’t wear make up. I asked Mum and she
said no.
Going
to ballet was the best day of the week, and I always looked
forwards to go to ballet.
|
Dauphin
|
Do
I understand this right; you really felt comfortable and most
happy when you went to ballet?
|
Jadyn
|
Yes.
|
Dauphin
|
Is
it because you were a girl or dressed as a girl that you felt so
happy and at peace with yourself?
|
Dr.
Steve
|
That’s
what I was thinking. It seems like Jadyns actions and wishes may
indicate that his identity was being a girl and doing girl things,
which may show that he had some transgender identity issues.
|
Jadyn
|
I
don’t understand a word of what the doctor is saying.
I
am happy that I can do ballet. I like dancing. I know some people
say that it is only for girls. But Men also do ballet. I
I
like wearing the tights and leotards. They feel good. So do girl
clothes. I do not think if I am a girl or boy when I have these
on. If I think I am a girl. Then I feel bad because I think I am
weird. Boys are not supposed to think that they are girls. When I
do think about this, then I could cry and feel very bad about
myself
But
then I think people think a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl
because of their body. When I have girl’s clothes on, no one can
see if I am a girl or boy because they cannot see my body. They
think I am a girl. So what is a girl? Is it what you look like or
how you feel?
I
liked doing ballet. I liked wearing girl clothes and doing girls
things. But I didn’t like thinking if this was normal or if I
was a girl or not.
|
Dauphin
|
Ok.
Jadyn Was a girl we can say once a week at ballet. This was hidden
from school and neighbours. Did you notice any changes in Jadyn?
|
Father
|
Jadyn
was happier. He was a good student and practiced at home. He had a
very good relationship with his sister. The most important thing
was that he was happy. I did not experience him so much dressed as
a girl, but I could see that more and more he borrowed his
sister’s clothes and even some clothes I did not see.
|
Brother
|
I
think that I accepted my brother as a sissy. At least I didn’t
have to worry that he was stealing my clothes and stuff. I knew he
would loan my sisters toys and her clothes. It was embarrassing
having a sissy as a brother. It was also lonely, because no one
would play sports with me and it seemed like Jadyn got all the
attention.
|
Sister
|
I
was delighted. I had a new sister. I didn’t even consider Jadyn
as my brother anymore. I considered him as my sister.
I
would ask him if he wanted to try some clothes on. Maybe he would
say no at the start, or he would think it was too girlish. But
after a while of me persuading him, he would try them on. The same
when we played. He would say no but after I said it was fun he
would say fine.
Sometimes
my friends came over. I think they thought he was a girl too. When
we had sleep over, he was allowed to play in our games and sleep
with us. He looked so cute with a nightdress on.
So
I was delighted that Mum and Dad let him be like he was. It was
like getting a new sister.
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Dauphin
|
I
would like to introduce two new guests to this show. Let us see if
we have more chairs.
The
first is Jadyns Grandmother and the second is Jadyns best friend
at school.
What
did you notice?
|
Grandmother
|
We
live about 4 hours away from Jadyn and his family, so its not that
often we seen them. But we always knew that Jadyn was a special
boy
When
the family visited us, Jadyns brother would get dirty or play
sport outside while Jadyn and his sister would help me in the
kitchen.
Then
I knew that Jadyn started dancing. He showed me how he danced and
he was very good. I knew he was being teased, and tried to tell
the parents that children are cruel and they tease anyone who is
different.
The
next thing I knew was that Jadyn told me that he started dancing
at a new school and everyone thought he was a girl. I was not so
sure he was allowed to tell me, and I couldn’t get any
information. They wouldn’t tell me. The only thing I knew was
that Jadyn hinted that he was a girl when he went to ballet.
|
Dauphin
|
Did
you think that was strange, that he could be going to ballet as a
girl?
|
Grandmother
|
Of
course I thought it was strange. The fact that the parents would
not be open about it and keep it a secret made it stranger. They
probably knew what would say.
After
hearing what has been said here today, I don’t know. It must
have been hard and lonely for Jadyn, and his parents would have
been powerless. I think its good that they didn’t ask me, as I
would probably have made things worse by not understanding what
the problem was, but by telling them what society expects.
|
Richard
|
At
school we still teased Jadyn about being a sissy. Yes, he told us
that he quit ballet and we never thought that he would start in
another town. But the damage was done. He would always be a sissy
in our eyes.
His
hair was shorter, but it’s the way he was. He was like a girl.
He even played with girls or Martin.
|
Martin
|
Hi.
I am Martin. I am Jadyns best friend. When I moved to the school,
he was just after quitting the new ballet. Everyone told me that
he was a sissy and that he did ballet. To be honest I didn’t
really understand what a sissy was.
From
the start I thought that Jadyn was interesting. He had a little
face and long eyebrows. He had this big lips and his skin was so
white. His hair was long and it didn’t bother him. I couldn’t
put my finger on it at the time, but there was something special
about him. I know now that it was because he is a boy.
At
first it was hard being friends with him. Jadyn played mostly with
the girls and when I tried to speak to him, he was shy. But after
some time, we became good friends. I think its because I accepted
him for who he is. I didn’t think he was a sissy or girlish or
weird. He was just Jadyn.
|
Dauphin
|
Now
I would like to hear something from his mother. Did you notice
anything after he started at the new ballet school?
|
Mother
|
Jadyn
was suddenly very happy at dance. He did well with the other girls
and often when he was home, he would chat with them on internet. I
was so happy that the had new friends. Miss Nikita also told us
that he was an excellent dancer, and could be a ballerina when he
got older. It was hard smiling knowing that he was a boy, and she
never noticed that.
When
he was dancing, I would always worry that others could see a bulge
in his leotards and others will notice that he was not a girl. I
read that you can give children hormone growth that their privates
would not grow so much, but I decided not to do this, as that
would be going to far. His privates have always been small anyhow.
|
Jadyn
|
Mum,
do you have to say that so everyone can hear it?
|
Dauphin
|
What
about at home, Did you notice anything different?
|
Mother
|
No
despite he was happy. I noticed that he played with his sister a
lot more and was interested in girl’s clothes and toys.
|
Dr
Steve
|
I
think that it is important that we do not judge anyone here. Jadyn
was slowly becoming more interested in feminine things. The
process has been slow where he did more and more. It can be
compared to parents cannot see how fast their child grows up, but
people that do not see them quite often are shocked at how much
they have grown.
Jadyns
family could not notice that he was showing more and more what he
felt like inside. He was acting as a girl.
One
thing I noticed is that his sister the person that brings the
transgender side in public. I do not know if this was his sister
brainwashing him slowly, or manipulating him because she wanted a
sister and not a brother.
|
Dauphin
|
Interesting.
I would like to ask his mother and grandmother, Did you start
thinking that Jadyn was a girl and start treating him like a girl?
|
Mother
|
The
whole thing was simple yet hard. Jadyn wanted to start at ballet.
He loved ballet. This is what it was all about.
I
can see what Dr. Steve is saying; his little sister gave him
experiences on what it was like wearing her clothes and acting
like a girl. I do not think she did it because she was evil. Maybe
she seen something in him that we did not see.
When
he started at Ballet and was suddenly a girl in other people’s
eyes, he was still my son. It was a family protest against the
values that we have in society where we expect boys to be boys and
girls are girls.
But
after a while it was like I could see the girl part of him shine.
I could see that he was interested in girl clothes and everything
that a girl does. I recognized that this was part of him. This was
him showing us who he was.
What
was I to do? I could force him to be a boy. But then what problems
would he get later in life? He would be unhappy, maybe be on drugs
and everything could end with suicide
|
Dauphin
|
Did
you ever treat Jadyn like a girl?
|
Mother
|
As
I said, after a while, I could see the girl part of him flowering.
Without noticing every detail, Jadyn was becoming more and more of
a girl every day. I won’t call it sissy that is so mean. It was
like he was coming out of his cocoon.
Sometimes
after I picked him up at ballet, we would go to the mall. Yes then
he would be a girl. I also had it in my mind that he was a girl. I
could see that this did not affect him and after a while he told
me he enjoyed what he called mother daughter days.
I
also noticed that he was wearing my daughter’s clothes and
bought him his own dresses and tights and other clothes. The deal
was that he could wear them when he was home.
|
Dauphin
|
The
problem was that Jadyn wore some of these clothes to school…
|
Richard
|
Jadyn
had the reputation in school that he was a sissy. Stopping with
ballet did not help, as the damage was already done. He tried to
cut his hair a few inches shorter, but he never played sports. He
just played with the girls. Playing skipping and holu hoops with
girls does not help us to stop teasing.
It
all went wrong one day when we were sitting on desks talking about
some project that we had to do. We looked down at Jadyns feet and
noticed that he had strange socks on, so we teased him that he was
wearing tights. I don’t think we actually believed that they
were tights. It became worse when the bully of the class suddenly
lowered his trousers, and we could see that they were girl tights
and on top of that he wore girls panties.
We
all just stood there in shock and then just started to tease him.
I know we shouldn’t tease but lets be honest, under these
circumstances, it was impossible not to.
|
Jadyn
|
I
remember that day and in a way it was my own fault. I was mostly a
girl at home by now. I loved the feeling of being a girl and I
loved that I felt so happy and people accepted me at home for what
I was.
I
figured that I could wear clothes like panties and tights to
school under my uniform so no one can see them. I usually put
socks on. That day I forgot and they could see what I was wearing.
They
found out and started teasing. I cried at first but then thought
the names that they called me were true. I was a girl. I was a
sissy. They were right to call me those names. The worse part of
it was that no boy except Martin would be by friend.
|
Dauphin
|
Jadyn
was now accepting that he thought he was or wanted to be a girl.
Is this something that the neighbours have noticed?
|
Neighbour
|
Jadyns
clothes were somewhat feminine at this stage. So I would just look
at my husband and say that modern fashion was strange.
One
day we saw that Jadyn was playing with his sister. I was shocked.
At first I didn’t know who was who at first, as they were both
wearing summer dresses. Then I noticed that Jadyn was wearing a
dress. I know many would think that this is cute, but I thought it
was wrong that a boy his age should be wearing a dress.
I
felt like talking to Social services, but my husband said it was
just a game and he would speak with Jadyns father.
|
Father
|
A
few times they did tell us or ask us why our son was wearing a
dress outside. To be honest it was hard to answer this, as I did
not understand it myself. The only answer I could give was that he
was playing with his sister, and it was just a game. The I tried
to explain when children experiment, they develop
|
Dauphin
|
Did
you stop Jadyn from going out as a girl and did you know your wife
was taking Jadyn out to malls and that she even bought him girl
clothes.
|
Father
|
I
did not stop him from playing in the house or outside the house. I
think that his transformation has been so slow that we slowly
accepted what he was inside and accepted that he wanted to express
it.
A
boy that thinks he is a girl confuses me. But when I think about
it, I think that it must be worse for him.
I
didn’t know that they were going out to the mall with Jadyn
dressed as a girl. I think that this could have been discussed.
Neither did I know that Jadyn had his own clothes. I did notice
that he wore some clothes that were not his sisters.
|
Dr
Steve
|
From
what I am hearing, It appears as if Jadyns father really loved
him. But we can all understand that this was no longer a question
of ballet. It is a transgender identity problem, where the parents
are trying to let their son choose his fate. The father accepts
this but it seems as he often turns a blind eye.
|
Neighbour
|
This
is what I call total abuse. They know that their son was becoming
more and more like a sissy. I have seen Dauphin before, and I know
that the audience usually has sympathy with sissy boys.
Most
normal people do not buy dresses for their boys. Most people do
not take their sons out dressed as girls. The confusion that Jadyn
had was caused by his parent’s flower power and inability to
raise their child.
|
Jadyn
|
When
I played outside with my sister, we were playing. I felt good what
I was in Eventhough other people did not like it. So it was a
dress. It would have been worse if we were playing with pistols.
What
is worse? Me playing with a doll or me playing war? I don’t
understand why people judge me and don’t ask me what I think.
|
Dauphin
|
Then
it seemed like the whole family came out in the open when you went
on holidays with Jadyn as a girl?
|
Grandmother
|
That
must have been one of the greatest shocks in my life and when I
was standing outside my house waiting for the family to come on
their summer holidays. Jadyn was the last to get out of the car. I
had to look twice, as Jadyn was wearing a dress. A cute little
yellow summer dress. It was identical to his sister’s dress. I
thought they looked like twins. I felt like I was going to faint.
|
Neighbour
|
I
remember that day. I was looking out my window, seeing the family
pack their car to go on holidays. I saw these two girls come out
wearing the pretty summer dresses. When I looked closer, I seen
that one of them was Jadyn. I was angry and sad. Poor Jadyn. I
thought his parents were forcing him to be a girl.
|
Dauphin
|
Were
you forcing him to be a girl during the summer holidays?
|
Mother
|
No.
School was over and the whole family now knew what was going on.
Jadyn considered himself a girl. We decided that we would let him
try to be a full girl during the summer holidays. Maybe it was
just a phase he was going through. So we let him dress as a girl
on the holidays.
|
Grandmother
|
So
there I was. I lost a grandson but now had an extra granddaughter.
I wanted to bring the parents in and give them a piece of my mind.
Then Jadyn and his sister gave me some flowers that they picked on
the way. When Jadyn gave me those flowers and we started talking,
he won me over. I could see something that I never seen before. He
was happy. It was like his spirit was shining from him. I accepted
that his parents seen he was different. He should have been born
as a girl, but was born as a boy.
It
is hard to understand, but I accepted him for who he is.
|
Dauphin
|
Jadyn,
what was it like being a girl full time?
|
Jadyn
|
I
remember when Mum asked me did I want to be a girl for the summer
to se if I liked it. I was so overjoyed. It was like a Christmas
present.
I
walked out of my own house as a girl. When my grandmother seen me,
I could see that she was confused. After a while, she was herself.
I
played with my sister and this other girl that lived close by. She
even thought I was a girl. We chatted and fixed each other’s
hair and went through fields looking at flowers. I even showed her
how to practice ballet when I had to do it.
That
summer was great. I didn’t have to hide or be two different
people.
|
Dauphin
|
So
the grandparents and family accepted it. The problem was that the
Neighbour seen Jadyn in a dress. Did you do anything?
|
Neighbour
|
I
did what every good citizen should do. I contacted Child Welfare
and told them that a boy was being made to be a girl and even
wearing a dress in public.
|
Father
|
That
was not a good citizen. That was a nosey citizen. Everyone can see
that we love our children, even when they are different than
others.
|
Dauphin
|
I
would like to introduce another guest, The social worker that was
put in charge of the case. What was your first impression of Jadyn
and his family?
|
Social
Worker
|
First
Let me say that I do not believe in Transgender children. I think
that parents should raise boys as boys and girls as girls. This
whole idea that we heard so far that a girl can be hidden in a
boy’s body. This is against nature. I mean if a white boy wanted
to be black, do we just paint him?
We
heard that Jadyn as being treated like a girl and we decided to
investigate it. Because of the mount of cases I had, it took me
some time to get started.
|
Dauphin
|
School
started again, and Jadyn continued as a girl at home and then
being a girl at Madam Nikitas dance school. Then something
happened between Jadyn and his best friend Martin. Could you tell
us what this was?
|
Martin
|
Jadyn
told me about his summer holidays. He told me not to tell the
other boys because they would tease him. I know that people tease
Jadyn because he looks like a girl and likes girl’s things.
I
never teased him because I know him. He is sweet. He can be boring
when he talks about ballet and stares at a dress in a shop window
and draws flowers all over his books. But I know who the real
Jadyn is. Its not what his body looks like. It is the fact that he
is the sweetest best friend I ever had or will have
|
Dauphin
|
Did
you consider him as a girl or a boy?
|
Martin
|
I
don’t know. I tried not to think about it as it confused me. I
do know that once when I was visiting him, he was looking at this
magazine with horses. I thought it was his sisters, but it was
him.
Later
he put on his ballet costume and started practicing. He wanted to
show me how hard it was. I just stared at him. He looked so
graceful and happy. Without thinking I gave him a hug and a kiss.
I think that I accepted that he was a girl then.
|
Dauphin
|
Was
he your boyfriend then?
|
Martin
|
No
he was my girlfriend. But we told no one because they would never
understand it.
|
Social
Worker
|
Do
you see how this is like a ripple in the water? First Jadyn is
confused that he is a girl and gets no guidance or structure or
taught what he really is. Now he is confusing Martin in what is
really a homosexual relationship. Are these children too young to
even know if they are gay or not?
|
Jadyn
|
I
am not gay. I know that. I love Martin and he is a boy, but I
don’t think I am fully a boy. I can see why you don’t
understand that as you just think what you know and don’t try to
understand others.
|
Martin
|
I
am not gay. I just love the girl part of Jadyn.
|
Dr
Steve
|
I
think it is very narrow minded of the social worker. Ok Two boys
have given each other a hug and kissed. Children do that. They
experiment and there is nothing wrong with that once they both
agree to it. The fact that Martin and Jadyn played around does not
mean that they are gay or even in a relationship. It means that
they are experimenting. You are right; they are too young to know
their sexuality. Give them a chance
|
Dauphin
|
Now
we are nearly up to date. How did this to be big news in the
press?
|
Social
worker
|
We
had some complaints from Jadyns Neighbour and the teacher at
school. So I investigated it.
The
School told me that he played with girls. Hade a very close
relationship with Martin and sometimes wore girls panties and
tights. They said that he had a loving family but did look like a
girl and acted like a girl. The teachers were worried about his
feminine sides because he was being teased.
We
talked with the neighbours that have seen that he sometimes had
girl’s clothes outside when he was playing and the summer where
he was a girl. This was confirmed by the grandparents.
At
last we found out that he was attending ballet as a girl, and this
was a shock to me. I clearly classed it as child abuse.
|
Dauphin
|
What
happened so?
|
Social
Worker
|
I
visited Jadyn and his family. He was dressed as a boy but sat with
a doll. This surprised me a bit.
I
looked at his room and was shocked that it was a girl’s room. It
was obvious that this poor boy was in the wrong environment.
We
removed him from his parents and place him in foster care until
the courts decide what to do.
|
Dauphin
|
Our
last guest is the foster Mother. Welcome. How is Jadyn doing in
Foster care?
|
Foster
Care
|
Let
me start by saying that I think that parents that treat their
children like sissies or allow them to be sissies. When I heard
Jadyns story I knew why he was sent to us.
When
Jadyn came he was crying all the time. We gave him the first few
hours for him to get used to his new environment.
Then
we had a talk with Jadyn. We removed all his girl clothes and
magazines and books. We told him no ballet and we told him that he
would get his hair cut short.
|
Dauphin
|
They
sound like drastic steps…
|
Foster
care
|
No,
It is just changing the wrongs to right, It is important that
Children have their boundaries and limits.
|
Dauphin
|
Jadyn,
How is Foster care?
|
Jadyn
|
I
hate it. I miss my family so much. I miss my old life. I miss
ballet and the things that I used to do. They don’t think boys
can draw hearts or do ballet and boys should only wear special
clothes.
What’s
worse is that everyone thinks it’s my parent’s fault. They
have loved me. They didn’t make me a girl. No one understands
them or me. I never felt so sad in my life.
|
Dauphin
|
This
is both sad and something to think about. I would like to ask
everyone what his or her final thoughts are, and are there any
solutions?
|
Joanna
|
I
knew Jadyn at ballet when he first went to ballet. I don’t think
he should go to ballet as a girl. That sounds just too weird.
It’s also wrong that he is told that he is not allowed to do
ballet. I think if he likes to do ballet and is good at it then he
should be allowed.
|
Brother
|
It’s
hard to have a brother that thinks he is a girl. It’s hard to
have a brother that is not like the others. I think that he needs
to see a shrink. Because Eventhough its hard for me, it must be
way harder for him.
|
Richard
|
Some
people are gay. Some are sissies. Jadyn is one of these. He just
has to live with it
|
Martin
|
It’s
hard not seeing Jadyn. I think its mean that the foster care says
we cant be friends because they think we are gay. I think the
teacher should show Billy Elliot that is about a boy that does
ballet. Maybe we will understand and Like Jadyn better
|
Neighbour
|
I
think he needs to stay in Foster care. It is wrong as I said that
parents did not raise him as a boy, but helped him be confused. I
think the parents should be tried in court for child abuse.
|
Sister
|
I
love my brother and it’s sad what has happened to him. I wish
that people just stops pointing fingers at him and treating him
like a freak. I love him as a brother or sister and love him for
who he is, why can’t others do the same
|
Grandparents
|
I
think that we should listen to what his sister is saying. Was
Jadyn happy at home? Yes.
Was
he happy with his foster care family? No.
This
must be enough. Let Jadyn be where he will be happy. Let him
develop the way he is meant. Maybe he should go to a special
school in order to help him. I don’t know if there are any sissy
schools.
|
Social
worker
|
Society
is a balanced system. The family is very important. It is
important that parents raise their children to survive in the
world they one day will be alone in. I do not think that Jadyn
will be ready for this. I think he will have a confused identity.
I do not think his parents have made a mistake. I think they just
have misled their son
|
Father
|
Many
are saying that we are bad parents. That we have twisted his mind
and made him the way he is now. That’s strange we can do a good
job with two children and make a mess out of the other child
I
think society should recognize that some children are different,
and that they need love and understanding. I think that Jadyn
should be with the family that he loves.
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Mother
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I
agree, but at the same time, I think that we need help. This has
been hard for our family. I think that now we need a solution how
to keep our family together. We need a solution on what is best
for Jadyn. This could mean that he needs some tests and talks to
who he is, and how we can support him.
Maybe
we should send him to a private school where boys that are
feminine are accepted.
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Dr
Steve
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One
thing is for sure, Jadyn needs help. Not being taken away from his
parents,. This has just caused him unhappiness and more isolation.
I
think that Jadyn has transgender identity crises, where he
believes he is a girl. This should be taken seriously. He needs to
be understood, accepted and loved.
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Dauphin
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There
you have it. No real solution to a topic that has many different
sides, many different views. Hope this Dauphin Show has made you
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